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hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’ setup chip set and program.
"J. A. Mc." wrote in messagehi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’ setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’. Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:22:17 -0000, "Tom"
found these unused words floating about:
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’ setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’. Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend $$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check "document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
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"J. A. Mc." wrote in messagehi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’
Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.
setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the
screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’.
Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
Kudos to JA for outlining a good procedure to that does not cost a significant amount of money.
I would add that it is important to calibrate your monitor carefully with Adobe Gamma, and avoid the higher color temp settings – try to use 5000K and avoid 6500K as it is too blue.
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
In his posting of Sun, 20 Nov 2005, kctan writes
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color
of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend
$$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more
option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check
"document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be
happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
Be aware that there is no way that Adobe gamma can come even close to achieving the degree of correction and repeatability that a good hardware and software solution can offer. If you are looking for cheap then OK it’s better than nothing but not much better. If you are really concerned about quality of earn your living as a designer of photographer than you owe it to yourself and your clients to get this part of your workflow right.
I would add that it is important to calibrate your monitor carefully with Adobe Gamma, and avoid the higher color temp settings – try to use 5000K and avoid 6500K as it is too blue.
In his posting of Sun, 20 Nov 2005, kctan writes
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color
of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend
$$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more
option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check
"document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be
happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
Be aware that there is no way that Adobe gamma can come even close to achieving the degree of correction and repeatability that a good hardware and software solution can offer. If you are looking for cheap then OK it’s better than nothing but not much better. If you are really concerned about quality of earn your living as a designer of photographer than you owe it to yourself and your clients to get this part of your workflow right.
Cheers
Richard
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Richard K
Well anything that is free usually is not perfect. Adobe Gamma is for this group of people and it is based on human visual for calibration. If you are good in judging, it may be quite OK. But if don’t understanding anything about color management, even the best colorimeter given to you won’t make thing better but worst.
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend $$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check "document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~kcpps
"J. A. Mc." wrote in message
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:22:17 -0000, "Tom"
found these unused words floating about:
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’ setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’. Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
"Richard" wrote in message
Having grown up in the slide&print-film era, I’ve become very accustom to seeing very large differences in color reproduction for different brands (and within brands styles) of film. Just knowing that Kodachrome and Kodak Gold are going to give me quite different renditions of a scene has made me more tolerant of what I’d like to term sloppy calibration of monitors and printers. In fact, way back when B&W film was what most serious photographers shot, Kodak (and others) published charts of the spectral response of each type of film and it became apparent that there was no such thing as "true color" rendition.
Of course, that said, I’d still like to be able to manipulate the appearance of a picture on my computer based on what the monitor is showing me and know that it will look pretty much the same way on the print. But that’s a more limited calibration of only part of the chain. I’m very much less concerned about the stuff that gets me there since I regularly shoot two different digital cameras and three or four different kinds of film to be scanned.
Norm
"Norm Dresner" wrote in message
"Richard" wrote in message
Having grown up in the slide&print-film era, I’ve become very accustom to seeing very large differences in color reproduction for different brands (and within brands styles) of film. Just knowing that Kodachrome and Kodak Gold are going to give me quite different renditions of a scene has made me more tolerant of what I’d like to term sloppy calibration of monitors and printers. In fact, way back when B&W film was what most serious photographers shot, Kodak (and others) published charts of the spectral response of each type of film and it became apparent that there was no such thing as "true color" rendition.
Of course, that said, I’d still like to be able to manipulate the appearance of a picture on my computer based on what the monitor is showing me and know that it will look pretty much the same way on the print. But that’s a more limited calibration of only part of the chain. I’m very much less concerned about the stuff that gets me there since I regularly shoot two different digital cameras and three or four different kinds of film to be scanned.
Norm
Film era is different from digital. The color information in the slide and negative will never change as it was formed permanently.
Your print or post
production task will be handled by the professional lab who is serious about calibration.
In digital file, you do your post production task and that depends on a monitor to see and judge the color, not the true but a pleasant one.
If your monitor is not displaying properly in brightness, contrast, and color, I wonder how you manipulate your image to your liking.
If your
printer don’t print to match your monitor, then it defeats the purpose of your manipulation. The worst is that you will ruin the information of you digital file dues to wrong monitor color and tonal display. It analogous to adding color to your slide blindly. Try to view your slide(5500degreeK type) under different lighting. Tungsten light shows warm color, daylight should be normal and against a blue sky will shows cool color. Monitor is like a lightbox with appropriate viewing light having the right brightness and color while contrast is from the slide. How do you know your scanned image is right when you care less of the device that shows the output? So you still don’t concern?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:12:06 +0800, "kctan"
wrote:
Well anything that is free usually is not perfect. Adobe Gamma is for this group of people and it is based on human visual for calibration. If you are
good in judging, it may be quite OK. But if don’t understanding anything about color management, even the best colorimeter given to you won’t make thing better but worst.
Try as I might, I cannot calibrate my monitor to accurately reproduce some colors in print to what they appear to be on screen. For example, the color "RGB Green" (0-255-0) is a very bright green on the screen, but prints as "Dark Green" (0-114-54) on paper. Yet, my photographic images print very true to the screen image.
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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
Having set up with AG, my ‘new’ (then) colour laser wasn’t printing even close to the screen using the suggested ‘match’! That’s why I worked out the
‘other’ additional steps.
YES, set the monitor first – thought that was a ‘given’! <G>
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:21:15 +0800, "kctan" found these unused words floating about:
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color
of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend
$$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more
option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check
"document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be
happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~kcpps
"J. A. Mc." wrote in message
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:22:17 -0000, "Tom"
found these unused words floating about:
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’
Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.
setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the
screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’.
Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop. Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.Hi.
Even your monitor is well calibrated, it is only for viewing the genuine color of your image file and it can’t make good color print. It is analogous to a well calibrated lightbox for viewing slide. You still need printing skill. Laser printer is not very appropriate for photographic image and if you are referring to solid colors, then watch out for out of gamut color for printing. Drop the color in PS and look for the triangle icon enclosed an exclamation mark on the color palette indicating this.
"J. A. Mc." wrote in message
Having set up with AG, my ‘new’ (then) colour laser wasn’t printing even close to the screen using the suggested ‘match’! That’s why I worked out the
‘other’ additional steps.
YES, set the monitor first – thought that was a ‘given’! <G>
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:21:15 +0800, "kctan" found these unused words floating about:
The most basic step is to make sure your monitor displays the genuine color
of an image before color adjustment or tweaking. If you don’t like to spend
$$$, there is a free way to calibrate your monitor by using adobe gamma (visual way). For printing, use the "print with preview…"check "show more
option" and in the window choose "color management". In source space, check
"document" and in print space choose "printer color management". Then proceed to print…, choose properties and in your printer program select whatever printing quality you prefer and type of paper you are using (use original ink and paper as you are using the canned profile) and you will be
happy with color matches closely to your free (by adobe gamma) calibrated monitor.
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~kcpps
"J. A. Mc." wrote in message
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:22:17 -0000, "Tom"
found these unused words floating about:
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop.Being an ‘occasional’ user, I didn’t want to spend the $$$$ for a ‘proper’
Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.
setup chip set and program.
That said, I DL’d a multi-colour chipset and used the color picker to tweak
the screen to match the ‘proper’ shadings. Then I printed and compared the
screen and print. Treid several of the presets until I got ‘almost there’.
Tweaked the output curves and I’m a happy ‘amateur’.
"Tom" wrote in messageI have never used the hardware monitor correction, I use the Adobe Gamma and it matches what my printer outputs. (with a little fiddling on install to get set up.) Prints are always a bit different than what you see on a monitor (different whites, and the difference between a "transparency" view and a print) My outputs to outside shops are very close to what I see on screen.
hi I am just wondering how to calibrate my printer for use with Photoshop.Hi.
Some of the results are quite different from what I see on the screen.
I have been reading this thread with interest.
The general opinions about Col. Management are true, but the assertion that
Adobe Gamma, (for CRT), is not anywhere near accurate, is a bit of hyperbole. While a hardware calibrater will be more accurate, Adobe Gamma can be very effective if used carefully under the correct lighting conditions.
The resulting Print, using the correct profiles, will still be different from the On Screen view, because of Gamut differences and the effect of the
applied Profiles.
It will be much more like the "Soft Proof" view, in "VIEW" > "Color Proofing" when that is set up correctly using the Paper Profiles.
Roy G
– in 4 materials (clay versions included)
– 12 scenes
– 48 MacBook Pro 16″ mockups
– 6000 x 4500 px
Nice and short text about related topics in discussion sections