Re: David and the PT Cruiser

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:21:18 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

KUNT WILLS
"Kent Wills" wrote in message

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:06:24 +0100, freedom
wrote:

[…]

If you can’t afford a PT Cruiser, you don’t stand a chance of getting the CRV.
If you’re going to claim you own one, you’ll need to offer something in the way of proof.

I bought one NEW in 2008. PROOF? There is NO proof that a RETARD like YOU would understand. Want the original window sticker off it in a scan? A
photo?

Perhaps you could scan it and crosspost it to the Photoshop newsgroup? So they can expose you on a fake, like they did with your boarding pass? ROFL

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise. What, specifically, about your constant drinking, forces you to lie and claim I’m an expert in so many areas? Compared to you, sure, I’m an expert, but by any rational definition, I am not. Are you simply letting the readers know that I know more about most everything than you ever will?

and tell us
AGAIN in your EXPERT OPINION why you feel those are faked. You HAVE offered us your opinions in the past.

I have.
Contrary to your drunken claims, I’ve never given an expert opinion, since I lack the expertise to do so.
You may continue to claim I’m an expert, if your constant consumption of alcohol demands such of you. I’ll just keep exposing your drunken lies.

Moore got some KID in the Photoshop newsgroup
who could not point to any flaw showing the image had been altered, but

Prove it. Post a link to the thread and let the readers see the truth. Unless you fear the truth coming out again.

instead based his "EXPERT OPINION" in his claim that he lived next door to the CEO of American Airlines who, he said, told him that American Airlines NEVER has flown to Cuba.

I don’t recall any such post appearing in the thread.
Maybe you’ve made a mistake as to what was posted? You do that a great deal.

NEVER, not even ONE flight in AA’s history EVER.

Post a link to the post where that was claimed. No one in the discussion was using no archive, as proved by the posts still being available on Google, so you should be able to prove such a claim was made with ease.

And YET http://www.abc-charters.com/pages/flights.asp is only one of several sources that say his claim was BULLSHIT!!! Notice all the flights to CUBA, Kunt?

Have I ever claimed American doesn’t fly to Cuba?

WHO got burned here?

You did when people who work with Photoshop showed how the tickets you posted were faked.

ROFLMAO! What a pair of POLISH RETARDS you two are. The word "POLACK" was invented in Poland for idiots like you guys.

David isn’t Polish.
You made another mistake. You make far more than a trial consultant should.

"Maybe he’s like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies" Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing his fondness for child porn in
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"Kent Wills" wrote in message

If you can’t afford a PT Cruiser, you don’t stand a chance of getting the CRV.
If you’re going to claim you own one, you’ll need to offer something in the way of proof.

I bought one NEW in 2008. PROOF? There is NO proof that a RETARD like
YOU would understand. Want the original window sticker off it in a scan?
A
photo?

Perhaps you could scan it and crosspost it to the Photoshop newsgroup? So
they can expose you on a fake, like they did with your boarding pass? ROFL

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the suibject YOU arue it as an "EXPERT." No matter the suibject.

Are you simply letting the readers know that I know more about most everything than you ever will?

I await your EXPert opionion ON THE PHOTOS, KUNT.

and tell us AGAIN in your EXPERT OPINION why you feel those are faked. You HAVE offered
us your opinions in the past.

I have.

Treat us again to your "EXPERT ANALYSIS" of how the photos were "FAKED!" Just one mroe time for the new audience to see your OVERWHELMIN EXPERTISE..

Moore got some KID in the Photoshop newsgroup
who could not point to any flaw showing the image had been altered, but

Prove it. Post a link to the thread and let the readers see the truth. Unless you fear the truth coming out again.

Why do I need to go back and find the crazy kid. The PHOTOS are up on the link above, YOU claim to be an EXPERT on photo authenticity, give us YOUR EXPERT OPINION, Kunt. The details.

instead based his "EXPERT OPINION" in his claim that he lived next door to the CEO of American Airlines who, he said, told him that American Airlines NEVER has flown to Cuba.

I don’t recall any such post appearing in the thread.

But Moore does.

NEVER, not even ONE flight in AA’s history EVER.

Post a link to the post where that was claimed. No one in the discussion was using no archive, as proved by the posts still being available on Google, so you should be able to prove such a claim was made with ease.

Come on Kunt, you can’t take one part of the kid’s claims without the rest. Moore claims the kid PROVED the photos were faked. How come he won’t post the message? Doesn’t it worry you a little?

And YET http://www.abc-charters.com/pages/flights.asp is only one of several
sources that say his claim was BULLSHIT!!! Notice all the flights to CUBA,
Kunt?

Have I ever claimed American doesn’t fly to Cuba?

No but the KID that Moore quotes did.

WHO got burned here?

You did when people who work with Photoshop showed how the tickets you posted were faked.

ONE KID made the claim and actually admitted that his ONLY basis for his claim is that he "KNEW" that NO planes fly from the U.S. to Cuba. WAIT – isn’t that a claim YOU also have made on occasdion, Kunt? From your EXTENSIVE EXPERTISE your VAST VAST VAST VAST personal knowledge ….. And he later "JUSTIOFIED" his claim by claiming that the CEO of American Airlines lives next door to him and TOLD HIM.. Yet the claim is BUL:LSHIT as I have shown. The photos are up, now SHOW US how they were "faked" Kunt. You can’t so you RUN…

ROFLMAO! What a pair of POLISH RETARDS you two are. The
word "POLACK" was invented in Poland for idiots like you guys.

David isn’t Polish.

His birth mother is.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 09:02:58 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

[…]

Perhaps you could scan it and crosspost it to the Photoshop newsgroup? So
they can expose you on a fake, like they did with your boarding pass? ROFL

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the suibject YOU arue it as an "EXPERT." No matter the suibject.

Again you offer PROOF that you are forced to present bigoted lies.
It’s sad your mental illness (you did claim on ADRU that you are insane — a legal term) forces you to do such.

Are you simply letting the readers know that I know more about most everything than you ever will?

I await your EXPert opionion ON THE PHOTOS, KUNT.

I’m not an expert. Your mental illness, caused by your
alcoholism, unless you lied, forces you to believe I am. In comparison to you, I may well me in many areas. However, as most use the term, I am not.
If your drunken delusions NEED you to claim I am that which I am not, so be it.

and tell us AGAIN in your EXPERT OPINION why you feel those are faked. You HAVE offered
us your opinions in the past.

I have.

Treat us again to your "EXPERT ANALYSIS" of how the photos were "FAKED!" Just one mroe time for the new audience to see your OVERWHELMIN EXPERTISE..

Outside of your alcoholic fantasies, I’m not an expert.

Moore got some KID in the Photoshop newsgroup
who could not point to any flaw showing the image had been altered, but

Prove it. Post a link to the thread and let the readers see the truth. Unless you fear the truth coming out again.

Why do I need to go back and find the crazy kid. The PHOTOS are up on the link above, YOU claim to be an EXPERT on photo authenticity, give us YOUR EXPERT OPINION, Kunt. The details.

Your admission that you fear the truth coming out again is accepted.

instead based his "EXPERT OPINION" in his claim that he lived next door to the CEO of American Airlines who, he said, told him that American Airlines NEVER has flown to Cuba.

I don’t recall any such post appearing in the thread.

But Moore does.

Odd that he’s never made such a claim.

NEVER, not even ONE flight in AA’s history EVER.

Post a link to the post where that was claimed. No one in the discussion was using no archive, as proved by the posts still being available on Google, so you should be able to prove such a claim was made with ease.

Come on Kunt, you can’t take one part of the kid’s claims without the rest. Moore claims the kid PROVED the photos were faked. How come he won’t post the message? Doesn’t it worry you a little?

I asked you to post it.
You admitted above that you didn’t do so because you fear the truth coming out.

And YET http://www.abc-charters.com/pages/flights.asp is only one of several
sources that say his claim was BULLSHIT!!! Notice all the flights to CUBA,
Kunt?

Have I ever claimed American doesn’t fly to Cuba?

No but the KID that Moore quotes did.

Where does Moore offer such a quote?

WHO got burned here?

You did when people who work with Photoshop showed how the tickets you posted were faked.

ONE KID made the claim and actually admitted that his ONLY basis for his claim is that he "KNEW" that NO planes fly from the U.S. to Cuba.

Three separate people stated the scans were fake. Each one explained how they came to the conclusion.
I saw nothing about any airline not flying to Cuba.
Looks like you’ve made another mistake regarding what was posted. Of course, you could prove you were and are correct by posting the MID and/or Google link for the post.

WAIT –
isn’t that a claim YOU also have made on occasdion, Kunt?

Nope.

From your
EXTENSIVE EXPERTISE your VAST VAST VAST VAST personal knowledge ….. And he later "JUSTIOFIED" his claim by claiming that the CEO of American Airlines lives next door to him and TOLD HIM..

I made no such claim.

Yet the claim is BUL:LSHIT as I have
shown. The photos are up, now SHOW US how they were "faked" Kunt. You can’t so you RUN…

I’m not running. In your desperate attempt to avoid the truth, you’re now mentioning photos. They have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Your attempt to distract from the truth serves as PROOF that you’ve been caught in a lie.

ROFLMAO! What a pair of POLISH RETARDS you two are. The
word "POLACK" was invented in Poland for idiots like you guys.

David isn’t Polish.

His birth mother is.

Prove it. Prove the David Moore we know has a mother who is Polish. That another man named David Moore has one will not serve as proof the David we know does.
Go on. Prove it, unless you’ve made a mistake regarding who David really is.

"It’s attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty." Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
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THE EVER RETARDED TWICE CONVICTED GARAGE BURGLAR FELON
"Kent Wills" wrote in message

Perhaps you could scan it and crosspost it to the Photoshop newsgroup? So
they can expose you on a fake, like they did with your boarding pass? ROFL

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter the suibject.

Again you offer PROOF that you are forced to present bigoted lies.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES are there on thew photobucket page listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass. Well Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

Are you simply letting the readers know that I know more about most everything than you ever will?

I await your EXPERT opionion ON THE PHOTOS, KUNT.

I’m not an expert.

NO SHIT! Then STFU and quit claiming the photos are faked!

and tell us AGAIN in your EXPERT OPINION why you feel those are faked. You HAVE offered
us your opinions in the past.

I have.

Well is you is or is you ain’t?

Treat us again to your "EXPERT ANALYSIS" of how the photos were "FAKED!"
Just one mroe time for the new audience to see your OVERWHELMIN EXPERTISE..

Outside of your alcoholic fantasies, I’m not an expert.

Pick a lane, Kunt, is you is or is you ain’t?

Moore got some KID in the Photoshop newsgroup
who could not point to any flaw showing the image had been altered, but

Prove it. Post a link to the thread and let the readers see the truth. Unless you fear the truth coming out again.

Why do I need to go back and find the crazy kid. The PHOTOS are up on the link above, YOU claim to be an EXPERT on photo authenticity, give us YOUR EXPERT OPINION, Kunt. The details.

Your admission that you fear the truth coming out again is accepted.

If I "FEARED" the truth, KUNT, why would I put the phtos UP for anyone to examine? HUH KUNT? Aside from your gay lover (Moore) has ANYONE agreed with you?

NEVER, not even ONE flight in AA’s history EVER.

Post a link to the post where that was claimed. No one in the discussion was using no archive, as proved by the posts still being available on Google, so you should be able to prove such a claim was made with ease.

Kunt simply now you all have run for the high timber to hide because I proved that AA in fact DOES fly to Cuba. So denying the claim is your only refuge. YOU claimed a bunch of times before you were exposed as a liar that there were no flight to Cuba or Venezuela. Remember the SPANKING you got on that one, Kunt?

Come on Kunt, you can’t take one part of the kid’s claims without the rest. Moore claims the kid PROVED the photos were faked. How come he won’t post the message? Doesn’t it worry you a little?

I asked you to post it. You admitted above that you didn’t do so because you fear the
truth coming out.

Well I posted the photobucket LINK, Kunt. If I FEARED THE TRUTH as you claim, I’d not have done that. PLEASE, Kunt, give us your ANALYSIS of how the photos were faked. Your EXPERT analysis. Or do what you’ve been doing CHANGE THE SUBJECT and run like a rabbitt from your hole.

And YET http://www.abc-charters.com/pages/flights.asp is only one of several
sources that say his claim was BULLSHIT!!! Notice all the flights to CUBA,
Kunt?

Have I ever claimed American doesn’t fly to Cuba?

No but the KID that Moore quotes did.

Where does Moore offer such a quote?

He refers to the ONE individual who DID say the photos were fakes. It turned out to be something like a 13 year old KID. The kid claimed he based his OPINION that they were fakes bnecause American Airlies doesn’t fly to Cuba, and the CEO of AA told him personally because he lives right next door to him. (multi-layer bullshit.)

WHO got burned here?

You did when people who work with Photoshop showed how the tickets you posted were faked.

ONE KID made the claim and actually admitted that his ONLY basis for his
claim is that he "KNEW" that NO planes fly from the U.S. to Cuba.

Three separate people stated the scans were fake.

BULLSHIT. The kid and MOORE.

Each one explained how they came to the conclusion.

Google message IDs so we can see this claim?

I saw nothing about any airline not flying to Cuba.

Well I can understand why NOW you can’t remember. After showing it was clearly such BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Yet the claim is BUL:LSHIT as I have
shown. The photos are up, now SHOW US how they were "faked" Kunt. You can’t
so you RUN…

I’m not running. In your desperate attempt to avoid the truth, you’re now mentioning photos. They have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Your attempt to distract from the truth serves as PROOF that you’ve been caught in a lie.

Really? The photos are up. treat us to your PROOF that ehey are fakes. Tell us your analysis of how they were faked. OR KEEP ON RUNNING, Kunt. And you ARE running like the scared little rabbitt you are!

The PHOTOS ARE THERE Kunt
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Treat us to YOUR EXPERT ANALYSIS of them and how they are fakes. Maybe somebody from the Photoshop newsgroup will HELP you, you so desperately NEED rescue on this Kunt. How come nobody is coming to rescue you? How come you are ALL ALONE on this?

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:55:16 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

THE EVER RETARDED TWICE CONVICTED GARAGE BURGLAR FELON

No such person is involved in this discussion.
You acknowledged in the thread about your listserv (have you gotten enough people to sign the petition to lift the travel ban?) that my name in real life isn’t Kent.

"Kent Wills" wrote in message

Perhaps you could scan it and crosspost it to the Photoshop newsgroup? So
they can expose you on a fake, like they did with your boarding pass? ROFL

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter the suibject.

Again you offer PROOF that you are forced to present bigoted lies. It’s sad your mental illness (you did claim on ADRU that you are insane — a legal term) forces you to do such.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have. I only gave (and give) my opinion on them while citing what they stated about the images. Nothing more.
To me, they look fake. However, I’ve always stated I will yield to any opinion from anyone who knows about image manipulation if their opinion contradicts mine.
As of my writing this, no such contrary opinion has been offered. Unless you are stating you are a quasi-expert on image manipulation.

are there on thew photobucket page
listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass.

It is a burn.

Well
Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

I’ve made no claim of expertise.
Do you really think your drunken claims fall within the category of normal? They don’t.

Are you simply letting the readers know that I know more about most everything than you ever will?

I await your EXPERT opionion ON THE PHOTOS, KUNT.

I’m not an expert. Your mental illness, caused by your
alcoholism, unless you lied, forces you to believe I am. In comparison to you, I may well me in many areas.

NO SHIT!

Thank you for that admission.

[The remainder snipped since Pangborn has admitted I know more than him. A bit of a shock, given that I know almost nothing of image manipulation.]

"Quotes below have been highly altered."
— Kenneth Robert Pangborn accidentally admitting in misc.legal that he alters posts when he replies.

"Kent Wills" wrote in message

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did you SWORE that neither American or Continental flew to Cuba. I shot that down. One other guy bitched about the white space in the Continental boarding pass. He said we had to pay attention to "the ink and paper texture." HOW do you get to see the TEXTURE of paper in a JPEG scan?????????? Yiou vclaim to be an expert, Kunt Tell us. The photos are there for your EXPERT analysis. HAVE AT IT!

I only gave (and give) my opinion on them while citing what they stated about the images. Nothing more. To me, they look fake.

Really, Kunt. WHY or HOW do they look FAKE in your EXPERT OPINION?

are there on thew photobucket page
listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass.

It is a burn.

And yet they ARE externally verifiable despite your IDIOTIC claims. As is the PROOF that the flights (AA and Continental) DO exist.

Well Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are
FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Then STFU on the subject.Either give us some basis for an opinion or drop it.

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, krp wrote:

"Kent Wills" wrote in message

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did

At least four people did, as I demonstrated with message ID’s. Four people whom YOU recognized as "experts" on the subject. After all, that was your entire reason for posting your irrelevant rant into the Photoshop newsgroup in the first place….to get expert opinions? When you didn’t like the answer you got, you started your usual charade of insulting, name-calling, etc. They outted you, Ken.

you SWORE that neither American or
Continental flew to Cuba.

Presumably, the question was posted to members of that newsgroup for their knowledge of Photoshop, not of air travel.

They called your bluff, Ken. This was years ago. Why cause yourself further embarrassment by dredging up your past failures? You’ve got so many present-day failures to deal with as it is. Move on.

http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex criminals

"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer’s Association or AN Y connection to them."
–Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secu re/experts/inde
x.shtml

"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!" –Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID <jOp3l.292$>

"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
–Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him

"I’m David Moore and I am insane!"
–Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim that his name is David Moore

"If you call the police, I’ll knock out all of your teeth, I’ll cripple you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I’ll be able to walk, but you will still be a cripple."
–Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

** – this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg’s logic

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:40:06 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

"Kent Wills" wrote in message

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did

There were several people who commented on them being fake. I can recall four off the top of my head.

you SWORE that neither American or
Continental flew to Cuba.

I did no such thing.

I shot that down. One other guy bitched about the
white space in the Continental boarding pass. He said we had to pay attention to "the ink and paper texture." HOW do you get to see the TEXTURE of paper in a JPEG scan??????????

By looking at it, stupid.
Different texture looks different in a scan.

Yiou vclaim to be an expert, Kunt Tell us.

Outside of your latest PROOF that you post while drunk, I’ve made no such claim. I’ve claimed the opposite, in fact.

The photos are there for your EXPERT analysis. HAVE AT IT!

I only gave (and give) my opinion on them while citing what they stated about the images. Nothing more. To me, they look fake.

Really, Kunt. WHY or HOW do they look FAKE in your EXPERT OPINION?

I’m not an expert, outside of your drunken fantasies.

are there on thew photobucket page
listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass.

It is a burn.

And yet they ARE externally verifiable despite your IDIOTIC claims. As is the PROOF that the flights (AA and Continental) DO exist.

When have I claimed, directly or through implication, that they don’t?
Be specific.
Are you mistaking me for another poster? You do make A LOT of mistakes. Far more than any competent trial consultant should.

Well Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are
FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Then STFU on the subject.Either give us some basis for an opinion or drop it.

You’re the one who gets drunk and claims I’m an expert.
Prove I’m an expert, or admit it’s another of your drunken lies. The choice is yours.

"Maybe he’s like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies" Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing his fondness for child porn in
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"Kent Wills" wrote in message

BURN!

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did

There were several people who commented on them being fake. I can recall four off the top of my head.

you SWORE that neither American or
Continental flew to Cuba.

I did no such thing.

Sure when you quoted the kid who originated the claim Throwing that in my face as FACT, Kunt is the same thing. The claim when first states was BULLSHIT.

I shot that down. One other guy bitched about the
white space in the Continental boarding pass. He said we had to pay attention to "the ink and paper texture." HOW do you get to see the TEXTURE
of paper in a JPEG scan??????????

By looking at it, stupid. Different texture looks different in a scan.

Oh REALLY? You can tell the TEXTURE of paper by looking at a SCAN? In your Polack courts would such claims be accepted as EVIDENCE?

You claim to be an expert, Kunt Tell us.

Outside of your latest PROOF that you post while drunk, I’ve made no such claim. I’ve claimed the opposite, in fact.

You keep making FACT CLAIMS that are ABSOLUTE, Kunt. That is setting yourself up as an "EXPERT." Stating an opinion, such as; "I think it might be this" is one thing, and that would NOT be behaving as an "EXPERT" but stating; "I HAVE ABSOLUTELY PROVED" (name the topic) IS setting your statements forth as EXPERT as well as unassailably factual. Of course, Kunt, i KN OW you are the farthest thing from REALLY being an expert on these subjects. Yopu just have an incredibly loud mouth and a propensity to bullshit.

The photos are there for your EXPERT analysis. HAVE AT IT!

I only gave (and give) my opinion on them while citing what they stated about the images. Nothing more. To me, they look fake.

Really, Kunt. WHY or HOW do they look FAKE in your EXPERT OPINION?

I’m not an expert, outside of your drunken fantasies.

What is FAKE about them? Usually in altered photos you can see shifts in the fields. Such as those fake celebrity nudes where some IDIOT pastes on the head of a celebrity to a nude. If you expend the photo (enlarge it) you can where the paste too place. Care to SHOW us that on the photos that are up? Now REMEMBER, Kunt, if you ALTER the photos I can expose that quite easily, and it’s fun enough to play with you for me to do that.

are there on thew photobucket page
listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass.

It is a burn.

And yet they ARE externally verifiable despite your IDIOTIC claims. As is the PROOF that the flights (AA and Continental) DO exist.

When have I claimed, directly or through implication, that they don’t?

Many times in the past you have claimed that No Americans can travel to Cuba or Venezuela. You were LOUDLY BRAGGING at one point that YOU PROVED me to be a liar because Americans can’t travel to Cuba or Venezuela. Of course, you were full of shit. Americans can freely travel to Venezuela, and Americans can also travel to Cuba with one of several classes of LICENSE granted by the Treasury Department. Which I did. *I* proved that American AND Continental fly to Cuba from Miami, thus DISPROVIN your bullshit claims.

Be specific.

Are you mistaking me for another poster? You do make A LOT of mistakes. Far more than any competent trial consultant should.

Nice dodge, Kunt. I see you are still runnign from your claims about the boarding passes.

Well Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are
FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Then STFU on the subject.Either give us some basis for an opinion or drop it.

You’re the one who gets drunk and claims I’m an expert.

Kunt I KNOW that you are no expert you just keep arguing points as if you WERE. I just RIDICULE your BIG STUPID MOUTH (figuratively).

DECEPTIVE DAVEY MOORE
"freedom" wrote in message

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did

At least four people did, as I demonstrated with

Davey you MISQUOTED selected pieces of their comments. Only ONE actually claimed they were fakes based on his claim that the "white space" in the center of the Continental boarding pass was "too even" in his opinion. Do YOU really think that’s a CREDIBLE assessment? He’s the one commenting on paper and ink texture from a JPEG. REALLY? That’s YOUR "EXPERT?" Even he said he wasn’t one. Then you had the KID who claimed he KNEW they were fakes because neither American Airlines or Continental flew there and he got that from several reputable sources. AND YET, Davey, I was able to prove THAT claim TOTALLY FALSE. He actually made NO comment pertinent to the actual question from a technical standpoint of whether they were genuine or faked.

Still you can’t find anyone with GENUINE Photoshop expertise to agree with YOUR claim that they are faked Davey. There they stand for anyone who actually HAS some knowledge of working with Photoshop to examine. Take your best shot at explaining why YOU believe they are fakes, Moore. Show us where they have been altered. Do a better job than the LAME attempt of PERCY MINCER at doing it with HIS lame fakes that could be spotted a mile off. He TRIED to insert his own name. too bad the background FIELD came NOWHERE NEAR matching the rest of the field. BUT, Moore you are good at cut and past, take your best shot, dipshit. Prove that they are faked. Remember, weenie, they can be and HAVE BEEN externally verified. But you are such a LIAR I can count on you to try again.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:23:33 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

Context restored at no additional charge.

[…]

There were several people who commented on them being fake. I can recall four off the top of my head.

you SWORE that neither American or
Continental flew to Cuba.

I did no such thing.

Sure when you quoted the kid who originated the claim Throwing that in my face as FACT, Kunt is the same thing. The claim when first states was BULLSHIT.

Cite one time, with MID and/or Google link, when I’ve quoted him. Just one is all I ask.
FYI: I’ve not even referenced the guy’s claim directly. I have referenced the claims of some other people who pointed out how they concluded the scans had been altered.
Not even the same area code as your latest drunken lie. But you can put me in my place by posting the MID and/or Google link to one post where I quote the kid. Just one is all you’ll need. My quoting someone else who has quoted him won’t work. Especially posts where I question the claim the kid presented.

I shot that down. One other guy bitched about the
white space in the Continental boarding pass. He said we had to pay attention to "the ink and paper texture." HOW do you get to see the TEXTURE
of paper in a JPEG scan??????????

By looking at it, stupid. Different texture looks different in a scan.

Oh REALLY?

Yes. Maybe you’re so drunk your eyes can’t focus?

You can tell the TEXTURE of paper by looking at a SCAN? In your Polack courts would such claims be accepted as EVIDENCE?

Just how stupid are you, Pangborn? One doesn’t have to be an expert to be informed of facts and state them in discussion.

http://www.google.com/search?q=scans+showing+paper+texture&a mp;ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US: official&client=firefox-a

http://ncane.com/4t

This is what really has you upset. I have been able to show why I think the images you present are fake. I’m not an expert, yet I’m still able to demonstrate just why I, and so many other people, believe them to be fake.

You claim to be an expert, Kunt Tell us.

Outside of your latest PROOF that you post while drunk, I’ve made no such claim. I’ve claimed the opposite, in fact.

You keep making FACT CLAIMS that are ABSOLUTE, Kunt.

I’ve done no such thing.
That you’re too drunk to understand what I’ve posted doesn’t mean I’ve made any FACT CLAIM.

That is setting
yourself up as an "EXPERT."

Maybe your drunken mind sees an opinion as a declaration of expertise, but to the sober mind, it does no such thing. Get into rehab, Pangborn. With help, you will be able to master your alcoholism. It won’t be easy, but I honestly believe you an do it.
Unless, of course, you lied about alcoholism being the reason you were found legally insane.

Stating an opinion, such as; "I think it might
be this" is one thing, and that would NOT be behaving as an "EXPERT" but stating; "I HAVE ABSOLUTELY PROVED" (name the topic) IS setting your statements forth as EXPERT as well as unassailably factual.

Fortunately, I’ve not made such a claim.
I stated the scans look fake to me. They do.
Outside of your boozing, unless that was a lie, such a comment is not a statement of expertise.

Of course, Kunt,
i KN OW you are the farthest thing from REALLY being an expert on these subjects.

Yet you are compelled to claim I am. You then are reduced to LYING about what I’ve claimed to justify your drunken lies.

Yopu just have an incredibly loud mouth and a propensity to bullshit.

You need to cease the projection, Ken. I can’t envision anyone buying it.

The photos are there for your EXPERT analysis. HAVE AT IT!

I only gave (and give) my opinion on them while citing what they stated about the images. Nothing more. To me, they look fake.

Really, Kunt. WHY or HOW do they look FAKE in your EXPERT OPINION?

I’m not an expert, outside of your drunken fantasies.

What is FAKE about them?

How many times do you need this question answered and your LIE about what I wrote exposed? What is the magic number that will penetrate the drunken haze in which you live?
Serious questions.

Usually in altered photos you can see shifts in
the fields. Such as those fake celebrity nudes where some IDIOT pastes on the head of a celebrity to a nude. If you expend the photo (enlarge it) you can where the paste too place.

If you say so. I don’t know much about image manipulation. I can barely open an image with Photoshop. Given how easy opening an image is, my statement should give you a clue about how little I know about image manipulation.

Care to SHOW us that on the photos that are
up? Now REMEMBER, Kunt, if you ALTER the photos I can expose that quite easily, and it’s fun enough to play with you for me to do that.

As I’ve stated, multiple time, but you’re obviously too drunk to recall, I lack the necessary skill and knowledge to alter images to the degree necessary here.
You need to accept the truth that outside of your drunken delusions, I’m not the expert you honestly believe (unless you’re lying) I am. It’s nice that you do hold such a belief about me, but the simple truth is that I am not able to do it.
Accept this truth and move on with your life. No one else is expressing difficulty in accepting that I’m not an expert. Why is it so difficult for you to accept? Or have you been doing nothing more than offering more proof that you’re so drunk, you can’t muster up the energy to be honest?

are there on thew photobucket page
listed above. This post is also in the photoshop newsgroup. Is anyone agreeing with your trollish claim that they are "FAKES?" Look at your comments above claiming I was "BURNED" with the "FAKE" boarding pass.

It is a burn.

And yet they ARE externally verifiable despite your IDIOTIC claims. As is the PROOF that the flights (AA and Continental) DO exist.

When have I claimed, directly or through implication, that they don’t? Be specific.
Are you mistaking me for another poster? You do make A LOT of mistakes. Far more than any competent trial consultant should.

Many times in the past you have claimed that No Americans can travel to Cuba or Venezuela.

That’s not the claim I made.
Care to cite the claim I really made, or are you too drunk?

You were LOUDLY BRAGGING at one point that YOU PROVED me to be a liar because Americans can’t travel to Cuba or Venezuela.

Why do you lie?
You confirmed that in 1993, there were no commercial flights from the U.S. to Cuba. While you worded it differently, you confirmed that one can travel to another country then to Cuba.
Are you telling the readers you were lying?
You’ve offered nothing to counter what I was told by the guy at the consulate regarding Venezuela. He told me that, at the time I asked, travel from Aruba to Venezuela was not allowed for Americans. Not quite what you LIE and claim I stated.
If you can prove his claim was a lie, do so. If you are lying, you’ll fail to offer anything to prove he lied.

Of course,
you were full of shit. Americans can freely travel to Venezuela, and Americans can also travel to Cuba with one of several classes of LICENSE granted by the Treasury Department.

Which has what to do with what I posted about travel in 1993? Be specific.

Which I did. *I* proved that American
AND Continental fly to Cuba from Miami, thus DISPROVIN your bullshit claims.

I’ve never claimed they don’t.
Post the MID and/or Google link to one post from me where I state either.
And for the record, my quoting Roger while pointing out how he was mistaken in his claim is not the same as me making the claim. Not to a mind that isn’t ravaged from alcoholism. YMMV.
You either made a mistake, or you lied. Which do you wish to claim is the case?

Be specific.

Are you mistaking me for another poster? You do make A LOT of mistakes. Far more than any competent trial consultant should.

Nice dodge, Kunt. I see you are still runnign from your claims about the boarding passes.

I’m not running from anything. They look fake to me. That’s the claim I’ve always made.
Feel free to prove I’ve claimed anything else, or admit you’ve made a mistake.

Well Kunt, the boarding passes sre right there. Tell us WHY you believe they are
FAKES since you think you are an EXPERT.

I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Then STFU on the subject.Either give us some basis for an opinion or drop it.

You’re the one who gets drunk and claims I’m an expert.
Prove I’m an expert, or admit it’s another of your drunken lies. The choice is yours.

Kunt I KNOW that you are no expert you just keep arguing points as if you WERE. I just RIDICULE your BIG STUPID MOUTH (figuratively).

Thank you for admitting that your claim is another of your drunken lies. I’ll be sure to point it out from time to time. Maybe I’ll even use it in one of my sigs.

"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts when he replies.
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:28:11 -0500, "krp"
wrote:

DECEPTIVE DAVEY MOORE

Your projection is noted.

"freedom" wrote in message

Really fairy? http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ Amuse
the audience again with your POLACK claims of photo expertise

Outside of your bigoted lies, I’ve made no claim of expertise.

Sure you have, name the subject YOU argue it as an "EXPERT." No matter
the suibject.

The PHOTOS that YOU claim are FAKES

I don’t make that claim. People who use photoshop have.

Actualy primarily one kid did

At least four people did, as I demonstrated with

Davey you MISQUOTED selected pieces of their comments.

He included the MIDs, allowing anyone with an interest to confirm the accuracy and context of the quotes.
Is the reason you snipped the totality of the quotes and MIDs because you fear someone checking and seeing what was presented? If that is not the reason, please tell me, and anyone else reading, the motivation for your action.

Only ONE actually
claimed they were fakes based on his claim that the "white space" in the center of the Continental boarding pass was "too even" in his opinion. Do YOU really think that’s a CREDIBLE assessment? He’s the one commenting on paper and ink texture from a JPEG. REALLY? That’s YOUR "EXPERT?"

Compared to you, the guy is an expert. However, outside your drunken stupors, no one has claimed he’s an expert.
You are mistaken as to the difference between a learned opinion and an expert opinion.
No wonder your consulting business is in the tank. You get confused far more than any trial consultant ever should.

Even he
said he wasn’t one.

Yet above you grant him the title.
How do you rationalize your drunken claims?

Then you had the KID who claimed he KNEW they were fakes because neither American Airlines or Continental flew there and he got that from several reputable sources.

So you LIED when you claimed he got it from the CEO?
You either lied then, or you’re lying now. If you see another option, please offer it.

AND YET, Davey, I was able to prove THAT
claim TOTALLY FALSE. He actually made NO comment pertinent to the actual question from a technical standpoint of whether they were genuine or faked.

Which is why you alone reference the post.

Still you can’t find anyone with GENUINE Photoshop expertise to agree with YOUR claim that they are faked Davey.

Other then the posts he quoted. The same quotes you snipped in a transparent attempt to hide the truth.

There they stand for anyone who
actually HAS some knowledge of working with Photoshop to examine.

Said people have. You snipped the quotes.

Take your
best shot at explaining why YOU believe they are fakes, Moore. Show us where they have been altered. Do a better job than the LAME attempt of PERCY MINCER at doing it with HIS lame fakes that could be spotted a mile off. He TRIED to insert his own name. too bad the background FIELD came NOWHERE NEAR matching the rest of the field.

So now such things CAN be seen in a jpg?
Pick a lane.

BUT, Moore you are good at cut and past,
take your best shot, dipshit. Prove that they are faked. Remember, weenie, they can be and HAVE BEEN externally verified.

By whom? When has this person’s expertise been established?

But you are such a LIAR I can
count on you to try again.

You should cease your projection, Pangborn. It’s unlikely anyone is falling for it.

"you are reading Moore’s SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited." Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can and does edit Google’s Usenet archive.
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