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Tue, 09 November 2010 15:08 Go to next message
tcroyer (Photoshop begginer)
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

--
Tom Royer
If you're not free to fail, you're not free. -- Gene Burns
Tue, 09 November 2010 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alan Browne (Photoshop expert)
On 10-11-09 15:08 , tcroyer wrote:
> Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
> my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
> picture.
>
> When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
> image).
>
> What happened?
>
> Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
> Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
>
> Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
> information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
> necessary to bring it out.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


1. post what you've got so far.

2. Did you over expose?

3. Rainbows come.

4. and rainbows go.


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Tue, 09 November 2010 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jkneese (Photoshop begginer)
Give this a try:

1. Be sure Layers panel is visible (Window > Layers)
2. Click Layers > Duplicate Layer (or click Ctrl + J)
3. Click the down arrow next to "Normal" in the blend mode drop-down
4a. Click "Multiply"
4b. Alternately, click "Overlay"
5a. If too dark or colorful, click down arrow by Opacity and adjust slider
5b. If not dark / vidid enough do step 2. again
6. When finished click Layers > Merge Visible or Flatten (Shift + Ctrl + E)

Let us know if this helps. Good luck!

"tcroyer" <tom@solidus-ts.com> wrote in message
news:KtSdnTu4Y9iyN0TRnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front
> of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get
> a picture.
>
> When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
> image).
>
> What happened?
>
> Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
> Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
>
> Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots,
> the information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
> necessary to bring it out.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Tom Royer
> If you're not free to fail, you're not free. -- Gene Burns
>
Wed, 10 November 2010 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Giganews (Photoshop begginer)
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really
good shots, but when I
> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
> image).
>
> What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is,
"were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the
portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't think of
anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of
you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.
Tue, 09 November 2010 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tconway (Photoshop begginer)
"Giganews" <leo.lichtman@att.net> wrote in message
news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
> "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
> really good shots, but when I
>> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
>> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
>> image).
>>
>> What happened?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
> through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
> 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
> is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
> to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
> think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
> then only of you are viewing through the lens.
>
> I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
> stitching.

Using a polarizing filter would lessen a rainbow under certain
circumstances.

Hopefully he can stitch together the portraits.
Tue, 09 November 2010 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tcroyer (Photoshop begginer)
"Giganews" <leo.lichtman@att.net> wrote in message
news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
> "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
> really good shots, but when I
>> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
>> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
>> image).
>>
>> What happened?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
> through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
> 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
> is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
> to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
> think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
> then only of you are viewing through the lens.
>
> I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
> stitching.
>

Bingo !

Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Thanks for the inputs.

Tom
Tue, 09 November 2010 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peter[11] (Photoshop begginer)
On 11/9/2010 3:58 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

> 3. Rainbows come.
>
> 4. and rainbows go.
>
and for only a short time do they show

where they disappear to, does anybody know.

but they do seem brighter when you've had some rum






--
Peter
Wed, 10 November 2010 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Furman (Photoshop expert)
tcroyer wrote:
> "Giganews"<leo.lichtman@att.net> wrote in message
> news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>> "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
>> really good shots, but when I
>>> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
>>> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
>>> image).
>>>
>>> What happened?
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
>> through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
>> 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
>> is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
>> to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
>> think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
>> then only of you are viewing through the lens.
>>
>> I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
>> stitching.
>>
>
> Bingo !
>
> Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
> read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
how polarizers effected a rainbow...
Wed, 10 November 2010 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Chant (Photoshop begginer)
Paul Furman wrote:

>> Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as
>> I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.
>
> Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
> how polarizers effected a rainbow...

Presumably the light diffracted by a rainbow is polarised.

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Wed, 10 November 2010 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
otter (Photoshop begginer)
On Nov 10, 1:14 am, Paul Furman <pa...@-edgehill.net> wrote:
> tcroyer wrote:
> > "Giganews"<leo.licht...@att.net>  wrote in message
> >news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> >> "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
> >> really good shots, but when I
> >>> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
> >>> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
> >>> image).
>
> >>> What happened?
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
> >> through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
> >> 35mm rangefinder cameras?  If it was through the lens, my next question
> >> is, "were you using a polarizing filter?"  Did you rotate the camera back
> >> to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back?  I can't
> >> think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
> >> then only of you are viewing through the lens.
>
> >> I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
> >> stitching.
>
> > Bingo !
>
> > Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did).  As soon as I
> > read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.
>
> Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don't understand
> how polarizers effected a rainbow...

Rotating a polarized filter 90 degrees could do that. You can do the
same thing with light reflecting off water or glass.
Thu, 11 November 2010 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert Coe (Photoshop begginer)
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:19:11 -0500, "tcroyer" <tom@solidus-ts.com> wrote:
: "Giganews" <leo.lichtman@att.net> wrote in message
: news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
: >
: >
: > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
: > really good shots, but when I
: >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
: >> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
: >> image).
: >>
: >> What happened?
: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
: > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
: > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
: > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
: > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can't
: > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
: > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
: >
: > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
: > stitching.
: >
:
: Bingo !
:
: Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as I
: read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Bob
Thu, 11 November 2010 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
peter[11] (Photoshop begginer)
On 11/11/2010 9:30 AM, Robert Coe wrote:

>
> I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
> return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)
>

Now if only we can remove the polarizing threads from NGs.

--
Peter
Thu, 11 November 2010 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M-M (Photoshop begginer)
In article <KtSdnTu4Y9iyN0TRnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"tcroyer" <tom@solidus-ts.com> wrote:

> Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
> information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
> necessary to bring it out.


"Auto Levels" usually works very well on rainbows.

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m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com
Fri, 12 November 2010 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tcroyer (Photoshop begginer)
"Robert Coe" <bob@1776.COM> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:19:11 -0500, "tcroyer" <tom@solidus-ts.com> wrote:
> : "Giganews" <leo.lichtman@att.net> wrote in message
> : news:muSdnWVvwsnNVETRnZ2dnUVZ5uOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> : >
> : >
> : > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three
> : > really good shots, but when I
> : >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
> : >> optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the
> processed
> : >> image).
> : >>
> : >> What happened?
> : > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> : > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a
> : > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the
> old
> : > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next
> question
> : > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera
> back
> : > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I
> can't
> : > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect,
> and
> : > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
> : >
> : > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic
> : > stitching.
> : >
> :
> : Bingo !
> :
> : Call me an idiot (actually, you're too late, I already did). As soon as
> I
> : read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.
>
> I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you
> return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!"
> ;^)

Amen to that.


>
> Bob
>
Thu, 11 October 2012 20:51 Go to previous message
karan325 (Photoshop begginer)
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:08:12 -0500, "tcroyer" <tom@solidus-ts.com>
wrote:

>Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of
>my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a
>picture.
>
>When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
>changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the
>optical viewfinder) (mostly -- I can see it very faintly in the processed
>image).
>
>What happened?
>
>Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop
>Elements 8. Image format: RAW.
>
>Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the
>information must be there, but I can't figure out the PE8 incantations
>necessary to bring it out.
>
>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Looking for a permanent solution buddy!

karan326@irchiver.com
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