Help with missing rainbow

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Nov 9, 2010
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Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the information must be there, but I can’t figure out the PE8 incantations necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


Tom Royer
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Alan Browne
Nov 9, 2010
On 10-11-09 15:08 , tcroyer wrote:
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the information must be there, but I can’t figure out the PE8 incantations necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

1. post what you’ve got so far.

2. Did you over expose?

3. Rainbows come.

4. and rainbows go.


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jkneese
Nov 9, 2010
Give this a try:

1. Be sure Layers panel is visible (Window > Layers)
2. Click Layers > Duplicate Layer (or click Ctrl + J)
3. Click the down arrow next to "Normal" in the blend mode drop-down
4a. Click "Multiply"
4b. Alternately, click "Overlay"
5a. If too dark or colorful, click down arrow by Opacity and adjust slider 5b. If not dark / vidid enough do step 2. again
6. When finished click Layers > Merge Visible or Flatten (Shift + Ctrl + E)

Let us know if this helps. Good luck!

"tcroyer" wrote in message
Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the information must be there, but I can’t figure out the PE8 incantations necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


Tom Royer
If you’re not free to fail, you’re not free. — Gene Burns
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tconway
Nov 9, 2010
"Giganews" wrote in message
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Using a polarizing filter would lessen a rainbow under certain circumstances.

Hopefully he can stitch together the portraits.
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tcroyer
Nov 10, 2010
"Giganews" wrote in message
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !

Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did). As soon as I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Thanks for the inputs.

Tom
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peter
Nov 10, 2010
On 11/9/2010 3:58 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

3. Rainbows come.

4. and rainbows go.
and for only a short time do they show

where they disappear to, does anybody know.

but they do seem brighter when you’ve had some rum


Peter
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Paul Furman
Nov 10, 2010
tcroyer wrote:
"Giganews" wrote in message
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !

Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did). As soon as I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don’t understand how polarizers effected a rainbow…
PC
Peter Chant
Nov 10, 2010
Paul Furman wrote:

Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did). As soon as I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don’t understand how polarizers effected a rainbow…

Presumably the light diffracted by a rainbow is polarised.


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Giganews
Nov 10, 2010
"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.
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otter
Nov 11, 2010
On Nov 10, 1:14 am, Paul Furman wrote:
tcroyer wrote:
"Giganews"  wrote in message

"tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I
changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old 35mm rangefinder cameras?  If it was through the lens, my next question is, "were you using a polarizing filter?"  Did you rotate the camera back to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back?  I can’t think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and then only of you are viewing through the lens.

I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic stitching.

Bingo !

Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did).  As soon as I read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

Could I get a little more explanation of this effect? I don’t understand how polarizers effected a rainbow…

Rotating a polarized filter 90 degrees could do that. You can do the same thing with light reflecting off water or glass.
RC
Robert Coe
Nov 11, 2010
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:19:11 -0500, "tcroyer" wrote: : "Giganews" wrote in message
: : >
: >
: > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three : > really good shots, but when I
: >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the : >> optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed : >> image).
: >>
: >> What happened?
: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a : > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old : > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question : > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back : > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t : > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and : > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
: >
: > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic : > stitching.
: >
:
: Bingo !
:
: Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did). As soon as I : read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.

I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Bob
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peter
Nov 11, 2010
On 11/11/2010 9:30 AM, Robert Coe wrote:

I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Now if only we can remove the polarizing threads from NGs.


Peter
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M-M
Nov 11, 2010
In article ,
"tcroyer" wrote:

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the information must be there, but I can’t figure out the PE8 incantations necessary to bring it out.

"Auto Levels" usually works very well on rainbows.


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tcroyer
Nov 12, 2010
"Robert Coe" wrote in message
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:19:11 -0500, "tcroyer" wrote: : "Giganews" wrote in message
: : >
: >
: > "tcroyer" wrote: (clip) When using portrait orientation, I got three : > really good shots, but when I
: >> changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the : >> optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed
: >> image).
: >>
: >> What happened?
: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > When you say it disappeared in the *optical viewfinder,* do you mean a : > through the lens viewfinder, or a separate optical path liker on the old
: > 35mm rangefinder cameras? If it was through the lens, my next question
: > is, "were you using a polarizing filter?" Did you rotate the camera back
: > to the portrait orientation to see whether the rainbow came back? I can’t
: > think of anything but a polarizer that could produce such an effect, and
: > then only of you are viewing through the lens.
: >
: > I hope the three portrait shots were done in a mode for panoramic : > stitching.
: >
:
: Bingo !
:
: Call me an idiot (actually, you’re too late, I already did). As soon as I
: read "polarizing filter", I knew what had had happened.
I guess the takeaway from this story is, "At the end of a shoot, when you return your camera to grabshot settings, be sure to remove the polarizer!" ;^)

Amen to that.

Bob
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karan325
Oct 12, 2012
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:08:12 -0500, "tcroyer"
wrote:

Yesterday, after a day or more of constant rain, there appeared in front of my house a very impressive double rainbow. I grabbed my camera to get a picture.

When using portrait orientation, I got three really good shots, but when I changed to landscape, the rainbow faded and disappeared (right in the optical viewfinder) (mostly — I can see it very faintly in the processed image).

What happened?

Camera: Sony A550 with 18-55mm f3.5-5.6. Post processing: Photoshop Elements 8. Image format: RAW.

Given that I can see traces of the rainbow in the landscape mode shots, the information must be there, but I can’t figure out the PE8 incantations necessary to bring it out.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Looking for a permanent solution buddy!

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