How to write from right to left using arabic characters

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mlmatute
Feb 3, 2004
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Hello! I’m trying to compose a text in arabic, and I have found the characters but now, when I start to write, the symbols go from left to right and not on the other way which is the arabic one.
How can I write in Photosop from right to left???
Thank you

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LenHewitt
Feb 3, 2004
Only by purchasing a copy of Photoshop ME (Middle Eastern) or by using a ‘mirror font’
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mlmatute
Feb 3, 2004
Thank you LenHewitt,
Could you please explain me now, which are the mirror fonts? and Where can I get them? thank you so much again.
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Tin Ear
Feb 3, 2004
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Thank you LenHewitt,
Could you please explain me now, which are the mirror fonts? and Where can
I get them?
thank you so much again.

It is a pain, but I compose Hebrew by setting Flush Right and typing backwards, that is last letter first and so forth. There is also a word processor dedicated to the Hebrew and Arabic languages that is relatively inexpensive. When I locate the link, I’ll post it here. You could compose your text, then copy and paste into PS. I do not do large volumes of Hebrew, so I use the first method. I am considering acquiring the word processor I mentioned as I recall the price being very reasonable.
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Tin Ear
Feb 3, 2004
wrote in message
Hello! I’m trying to compose a text in arabic, and I have found the
characters but now, when I start to write, the symbols go from left to right and not on the other way which is the arabic one.
How can I write in Photosop from right to left???
Thank you

Sorry, but I was confusing two products, Dagesh Pro and Hebrew at Your Ease. Dagesh Pro is a Hebrew language word processor and the other program is learning Hebrew for Arabic speakers. If some one has a need for the word processor, the link is
http://www.israel-catalog.com/BuildaGate4/general2/data_card .php?U=no Since Dagesh does right left text, maybe with a different font set it could be adapted to Arab languages?
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barry_gray
Feb 3, 2004
write backwards?
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Don_McCahill
Feb 3, 2004
A mirror font is one that works backwards, with the idea that your create your text left to right, with this font, and then flip the entire thing when you are done. I know it is used a lot in Hebrew by people wanting to avoid the cost of the Middle East version of Photoshop. I’m not sure what arabic fonts of this type are available.

Try searching google for "arabic mirror fonts"
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Tin Ear
Feb 3, 2004
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write backwards?

..siht ekil fo dnik ,seY

In Hebrew, and Arabic, the letters are meant to be read Right to Left, so my example above look really strange. Imagine if the characters and punctuation had been flipped as a mirror image. The you would have no trouble reading the text. In my example above, the words would represent the equivalent of Flush Right in Hebrew. That is why I compose the text in English Flush Right and then I can start at the Top Right of the page and it looks correct in Hebrew.

As I do more, it is becoming too much of a pain. I may have to breakdown and get Dagesh Pro. The alternative is using my Wacom Intuos graphics tablet and lettering by hand with either a brush tool or a pencil. My Hebrew printing is better than my American, or so my teacher tells me, but it does not look anything like type set.
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Tin Ear
Feb 3, 2004
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A mirror font is one that works backwards, with the idea that your create
your text left to right, with this font, and then flip the entire thing when you are done. I know it is used a lot in Hebrew by people wanting to avoid the cost of the Middle East version of Photoshop. I’m not sure what arabic fonts of this type are available.
Try searching google for "arabic mirror fonts"

You also might post a request to
alt.binaries.fonts
or
comp.fonts

I’ve found both useful for locating hard to find fonts.

For $$$ you might try
http://www.fonts.com/default.asp?GTSE=GOOG&GTKW=free+fon ts http://www.graphxedge.com/fonts/
http://www.philsfonts.com/
http://www.adobe.com

I’m sure there are other sources, but these are some that I’ve used. I have not searched for Arabic fonts, but many of these did have international fonts
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remarkble
Feb 11, 2004
Arabic fonts would not function in mirror mode. Arabic and Farsi would have to be used within Adobe Middle Eastern software. This is because Arabic is a complex script based language, and it’s characters change according to its position within the word. I suggest using Adobe ME.
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Tin Ear
Feb 11, 2004
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Arabic fonts would not function in mirror mode. Arabic and Farsi would
have to be used within Adobe Middle Eastern software. This is because Arabic is a complex script based language, and it’s characters change according to its position within the word. I suggest using Adobe ME.

A less expensive alternative might be Dagesh Pro IV. See the review and product description below (watch for line wrap)

http://www.jewishsoftware.com/products/52.asp?bhcd2=10765397 38

According to the review, Dagesh Pro supports Hebrew and Arabic languages in a native format and is adaptable to other non-English languages as well. The article also cites using Dagesh pro and, to quote from the review, "… a function for copy visual to transport Hebrew text to other word processors or to QuarkXPress or a comparable graphic program working with Latin fonts; copy visual allows you to type up a file and import it into most graphics programs, such as Corel Draw and Adobe Illustrator, and then format the text to fit around photos and images."

After debating for a while and researching other products, I decided to order this one. I’ll keep the group posted on how it works with the Adobe Creative Suite product line.
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Alpha_Papa
Feb 12, 2004
I do know that with Windows XP it is possible to load a language via Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages > Details > Add (and there’s a bit of Arabic there).

Once this is achieved you can then fire up the keyboard to go from right to left via the Language Bar – set up a hot key toggle and it should work. What You’ll probably need is a keyboard map to follow the keys along whilst in this alternate mode.

Copying and pasting to this text, say from Word to PS should be easy. However, I’m not sure of the ease in reformatting this text once in PS or changing the font.

Adam.
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Gustavo_Sanchez
Feb 12, 2004
"Copying and pasting to this text, say from Word to PS should be easy."

For Arabic script, it’s not. I am afraid things are the way remarkble said. Better get a ME version until Adobe complies fully with Unicode standards… And that could be quite difficult and expensive to do (and it may be not 1st priority in their list).

Gustavo Sánchez

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Tin Ear
Feb 12, 2004
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"Copying and pasting to this text, say from Word to PS should be easy."
For Arabic script, it’s not. I am afraid things are the way remarkble
said. Better get a ME version until Adobe complies fully with Unicode standards… And that could be quite difficult and expensive to do (and it may be not 1st priority in their list).
Gustavo S
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Tin Ear
Feb 12, 2004
"Tin Ear" wrote in message
wrote in message
"Copying and pasting to this text, say from Word to PS should be easy."
For Arabic script, it’s not. I am afraid things are the way remarkble
said. Better get a ME version until Adobe complies fully with Unicode standards… And that could be quite difficult and expensive to do (and it may be not 1st priority in their list).
Gustavo S
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Scott_Byer
Feb 12, 2004
No, it doesn’t have much to do with Unicode. Photoshop CS is fully Unicode 3.2 compliant for entering and pasting text. The problem here is some of the contextual forms may not have Unicode code points, and are accessible only as alternative glyphs, which won’t come across in a paste.

-Scott
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Gustavo_Sanchez
Feb 12, 2004
Scott,

Thanks for that precise information. It’s a pleasure to stand corrected by you.

Then, may we think that Microsoft Word –for example, to avoid internal questions about Adobe software– is making some kind of non exactly truly Unicode ‘magic’ to achieve contextual glyph forms (letters) in Arabic script?

Thanks 🙂
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Scott_Byer
Feb 13, 2004
Then, may we think that Microsoft Word –for example, to avoid internal questions about Adobe software– is making some kind of non exactly truly Unicode ‘magic’ to achieve contextual glyph forms (letters) in Arabic script?

Yup. They probably have additional an Arabic script engine to handle the contextual glyph issues.

-Scott
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remarkble
Feb 17, 2004
You can use Word/Windows XP with Arabic, if word processing is what you require. To install Arabic support for WinXP, go to Start > Help/Support and type ‘Arabic’. This will explain how to activate Arabic support.

Once activated, programs like MS-Word/XP and Adobe ME software can handle Arabic. Use default MS Font or one of the bundled Arabic fonts included with Adobe-ME software.

This approach is all based upon Unicode encoding, which can add additional benefits with ME software.
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Tin Ear
Feb 17, 2004
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You can use Word/Windows XP with Arabic, if word processing is what you
require. To install Arabic support for WinXP, go to Start > Help/Support and type ‘Arabic’. This will explain how to activate Arabic support.
Once activated, programs like MS-Word/XP and Adobe ME software can handle
Arabic. Use default MS Font or one of the bundled Arabic fonts included with Adobe-ME software.
This approach is all based upon Unicode encoding, which can add additional
benefits with ME software.

Thanks! You helped a lot with a perplexing problem.

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