Help with Glamour retouching.

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Engelkott
Sep 12, 2004
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Hi!

I have searched the web and looked through a couple of books that i have (A Comprehensive Guide To Digital Portrait Photography, Photoshop CD for Photogrpahers, Photoshop CS: The Art of Photographing Women and Digital Nude Photography) but to no avail!

What i am looking for is a guide on how to improve the bust on a woman. I am not referring to some weird balloon type of editing but something subtle for both clothed and unclothed models.

Some of my clients ask for me to give them a little more and none of the guide i have looked at have covered this even though i know it is done a lot in magazines and film posters (the King Arthur film poster springs to mind).

I would be grateful for any help you can offer even if it is just pointing me in the direction of the correct Photoshop tool for the job. A photography webside did mention a ‘sphereize’ tool but i could not find that in CS.

Many thanks,

Graham

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ed
Sep 12, 2004
Liquify
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John McWilliams
Sep 13, 2004
ed wrote:
Liquify
This was asked and answered in rec.photo. digital.

Please don’t multiple post.


John McWilliams
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Engelkott
Sep 13, 2004
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:04:58 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

ed wrote:
Liquify
This was asked and answered in rec.photo. digital.

Please don’t multiple post.

I apologise though i only thought cross posting was frowned upon. I will bare it in mind for future reference.

Graham
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Nicholas Sherlock
Sep 13, 2004
Engelkott wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:04:58 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

ed wrote:
Liquify
This was asked and answered in rec.photo. digital.

Please don’t multiple post.

I apologise though i only thought cross posting was frowned upon. I will bare it in mind for future reference.

Multi-posting is worse than cross-posting :).

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock
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44DD
Sep 13, 2004
Haven’t tried the books you mentioned, but Katrin Eismann’s Retouching book is highly recommended for portrait editing. Follow it and you turn Twiggy into Pam Anderson.

Engelkott wrote:
Hi!

I have searched the web and looked through a couple of books that i have (A Comprehensive Guide To Digital Portrait Photography, Photoshop CD for Photogrpahers, Photoshop CS: The Art of Photographing Women and Digital Nude Photography) but to no avail!

What i am looking for is a guide on how to improve the bust on a woman. I am not referring to some weird balloon type of editing but something subtle for both clothed and unclothed models.

Some of my clients ask for me to give them a little more and none of the guide i have looked at have covered this even though i know it is done a lot in magazines and film posters (the King Arthur film poster springs to mind).

I would be grateful for any help you can offer even if it is just pointing me in the direction of the correct Photoshop tool for the job. A photography webside did mention a ‘sphereize’ tool but i could not find that in CS.

Many thanks,

Graham
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carl_miller23
Sep 13, 2004
On September 13 2004, John McWilliams wrote:
Please don’t multiple post.

Why? It’s applicable to both groups. Although perhaps this one more than the other. He’s likely to get some duplicate answers, but he’s likely to get answers unique to the viewpoint of each group as well. I’m no teacher but I’ve taught people various subjects long enough to know that the more ways you can explain something the more likely ONE of those ways will be found useful to and better understood by the student.

Stop being a newsgroup nazi.


Carl Miller

http://www.quickinfo247.com/8557444
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RSD99
Sep 13, 2004
"44DD" posted:
"…
Follow it and you turn
Twiggy into Pam Anderson.
…."

HeHeHeHeHe …

That’s what some ‘Plastic Surgeon’ did …

HeHeHeHeHe …
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Engelkott
Sep 13, 2004
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:51:15 GMT, "RSD99"
wrote:

"44DD" posted:
"…
Follow it and you turn
Twiggy into Pam Anderson.
…"

HeHeHeHeHe …

That’s what some ‘Plastic Surgeon’ did …

HeHeHeHeHe …

Thanks for all the help!

Engelkott
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Engelkott
Sep 13, 2004
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:54:53 -0500, (Carl
Miller) wrote:

On September 13 2004, John McWilliams wrote:
Please don’t multiple post.

Why? It’s applicable to both groups. Although perhaps this one more than the other. He’s likely to get some duplicate answers, but he’s likely to get answers unique to the viewpoint of each group as well. I’m no teacher but I’ve taught people various subjects long enough to know that the more ways you can explain something the more likely ONE of those ways will be found useful to and better understood by the student.
Stop being a newsgroup nazi.

Indeed you are correct! I posted my question to this group first as it has Photoshop in the title and then i followed it up in the other group.

I got a few interesting answers in the other group and one or two in here but had i not multi-posted i would have missed out on a few suggestions! 🙂

Engelkott
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Odysseus
Sep 13, 2004
In article ,
Engelkott wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:54:53 -0500, (Carl
Miller) wrote:

On September 13 2004, John McWilliams wrote:
Please don’t multiple post.

Why? It’s applicable to both groups. Although perhaps this one more than the other. He’s likely to get some duplicate answers, but he’s likely to get answers unique to the viewpoint of each group as well. I’m no teacher but I’ve taught people various subjects long enough to know that the more ways you can explain something the more likely ONE of those ways will be found useful to and better understood by the student.
Stop being a newsgroup nazi.

Indeed you are correct! I posted my question to this group first as it has Photoshop in the title and then i followed it up in the other group.

I got a few interesting answers in the other group and one or two in here but had i not multi-posted i would have missed out on a few suggestions! 🙂
Cross-posting — to two or three select, relevant groups, unlike the scatter-gun xposting characteristic of trolls and screed-spammers — is still preferable to multiposting IMO, because the suggestions made from different perspectives can ‘cross-fertilize’ that way, everyone having a better idea of the context of the question as well as being able to avoid redundancy. Moreover, xposted questions can often make for an opportunity for readers of each group to learn something from the others.


Odysseus
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John McWilliams
Sep 13, 2004
Odysseus wrote:
Cross-posting — to two or three select, relevant groups, unlike the scatter-gun xposting characteristic of trolls and screed-spammers — is still preferable to multiposting IMO, because the suggestions made from different perspectives can ‘cross-fertilize’ that way, everyone having a better idea of the context of the question as well as being able to avoid redundancy. Moreover, xposted questions can often make for an opportunity for readers of each group to learn something from the others.

Thanks, as you are more diplomatic than I would have been, not re the OP, as I have no bone to pick with him at all, but the poster who throws names around while himself engaging in the activity he condemns. He can kinda foad if you get my drift.


John McWilliams
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noone
Sep 14, 2004
In article <ci367t$dl5$ says…
Engelkott wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:04:58 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

ed wrote:
Liquify
This was asked and answered in rec.photo. digital.

Please don’t multiple post.

I apologise though i only thought cross posting was frowned upon. I will bare it in mind for future reference.

Multi-posting is worse than cross-posting :).

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock

I’d beg to differ with you. Not all people get, or read both RPD and CGAP. In the case of this poster, both NG’s can offer solutions and probably from a different perspective. As an example, I’ve monitored the two PS NG’s for many years, and only recently started to follow RPD. Had this article been posted six months ago, I’d have only seen it in one NG. With many questions bridging the gap between hardware, techniques, and software, I would have done the same thing. Since the subscribership of CGAP and AGP, I would probably have posted to both of those, had this been my question.

Just because you might follow two NG’s with some overlap, does not mean that others will.

Hunt
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noone
Sep 14, 2004
In article , odysseus
says…
In article ,
Engelkott wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:54:53 -0500, (Carl
Miller) wrote:

On September 13 2004, John McWilliams wrote:
Please don’t multiple post.

Why? It’s applicable to both groups. Although perhaps this one more than the other. He’s likely to get some duplicate answers, but he’s likely to get answers unique to the viewpoint of each group as well. I’m no teacher but I’ve taught people various subjects long enough to know that the more ways you can explain something the more likely ONE of those ways will be found useful to and better understood by the student.
Stop being a newsgroup nazi.

Indeed you are correct! I posted my question to this group first as it has Photoshop in the title and then i followed it up in the other group.

I got a few interesting answers in the other group and one or two in here but had i not multi-posted i would have missed out on a few suggestions! 🙂
Cross-posting — to two or three select, relevant groups, unlike the scatter-gun xposting characteristic of trolls and screed-spammers — is still preferable to multiposting IMO, because the suggestions made from different perspectives can ‘cross-fertilize’ that way, everyone having a better idea of the context of the question as well as being able to avoid redundancy. Moreover, xposted questions can often make for an opportunity for readers of each group to learn something from the others.

Odysseus

I agree completely. It is also much easier for the OP to get the answers to their questions, and then thank all who provided them. The word "relevant" is the key in your assessment. This has been acceptable practice from the days that the Usenet developed from ARPANET. As the old Wang groups developed, there was a lot of overlap and X-posting, with forethought was urged.

Hunt

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