Extract an ICC profile?

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Sun, 21 December 2003 22:34 Go to next message
Branko Vukelic (Photoshop expert)
Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file using
Photoshop?

I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
Mon, 22 December 2003 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn Pechacek (Advanced Photoshop user)
"Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net...
> Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file using
> Photoshop?
>
> I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
>
>
I don't know if you can "extract" the profile, PhotoShop does read the
embedded profile from several file formats, including TIFF. If a file's
ICC profile is different than the current workspace than options are
presented, such as switching to the file's profile.
Mon, 22 December 2003 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Branko Vukelic (Photoshop expert)
Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and save
them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.

I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be color-managed
using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but that'd
take time.

Does anyone know of any freeware tools that could rip the profiles off a
TIFF (or any other format)?

"Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:L4OdnU_11Ym0lnqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file
using
> > Photoshop?
> >
> > I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
> >
> >
> I don't know if you can "extract" the profile, PhotoShop does read the
> embedded profile from several file formats, including TIFF. If a file's
> ICC profile is different than the current workspace than options are
> presented, such as switching to the file's profile.
>
>
Mon, 22 December 2003 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn Pechacek (Advanced Photoshop user)
The information is in regular text, so you could bring the TIFF file up in
a text editor and search for it. maybe search for *desc*. Examples:

B2A2&#0;Ě(&#0;8┤gamt&#0;´▄&#0;&#0;É'des c&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;U. S.
Web Coated (SWOP)

1998 Hewlett-Packard Company&#0;&#0;desc&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;& amp;#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB
IEC61966-2.1&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0; &#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB IEC61966


"Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bs7m94$a0$1@cer.yubc.net...
> Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and save
> them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
>
> I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be
color-managed
> using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but
that'd
> take time.
>
> Does anyone know of any freeware tools that could rip the profiles off a
> TIFF (or any other format)?
>
> "Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:L4OdnU_11Ym0lnqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> > "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > news:bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > > Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file
> using
> > > Photoshop?
> > >
> > > I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
> > >
> > >
> > I don't know if you can "extract" the profile, PhotoShop does read the
> > embedded profile from several file formats, including TIFF. If a
file's
> > ICC profile is different than the current workspace than options are
> > presented, such as switching to the file's profile.
> >
> >
>
>
Tue, 23 December 2003 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Branko Vukelic (Photoshop expert)
Thanks! This'll do.

"Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S9OdnQPsDZiDFHqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> The information is in regular text, so you could bring the TIFF file up
in
> a text editor and search for it. maybe search for *desc*. Examples:
>
> B2A2&#0;Ě(&#0;8┤gamt&#0;´▄&#0;&#0;É'des c&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;U. S.
> Web Coated (SWOP)
>
> 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company&#0;&#0;desc&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;& amp;#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB
> IEC61966-2.1&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0; &#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB IEC61966
>
>
> "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:bs7m94$a0$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and save
> > them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
> >
> > I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be
> color-managed
> > using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but
> that'd
> > take time.
> >
> > Does anyone know of any freeware tools that could rip the profiles off a
> > TIFF (or any other format)?
> >
> > "Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:L4OdnU_11Ym0lnqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> > > "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > > > Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file
> > using
> > > > Photoshop?
> > > >
> > > > I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I don't know if you can "extract" the profile, PhotoShop does read the
> > > embedded profile from several file formats, including TIFF. If a
> file's
> > > ICC profile is different than the current workspace than options are
> > > presented, such as switching to the file's profile.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Tue, 23 December 2003 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nomail (Photoshop expert)
Branko Vukelic <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote:

> Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and save
> them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
>
> I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be color-managed
> using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but that'd
> take time.

Simple solution: Open one of those TIFF files in Illustrator. Select all
and delete. That gives you an empty document, still in the correct color
space and with the correct profile. Start working from there.


--
Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl
Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
Tue, 23 December 2003 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glenn Pechacek (Advanced Photoshop user)
I found out that *Imaging for Windows* shows the profile information under
File->Color Management, see if you have that application installed. It's a
Kodak application provided to Microsoft. I don't know how I got it on my
system but maybe it comes with the operating system or some other install.



"Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bs946h$mnr$1@cer.yubc.net...
> Thanks! This'll do.
>
> "Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:S9OdnQPsDZiDFHqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> > The information is in regular text, so you could bring the TIFF file up
> in
> > a text editor and search for it. maybe search for *desc*. Examples:
> >
> >
B2A2&#0;Ě(&#0;8┤gamt&#0;´▄&#0;&#0;É'des c&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;U. S.
> > Web Coated (SWOP)
> >
> > 1998 Hewlett-Packard
Company&#0;&#0;desc&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;& amp;#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB
> > IEC61966-2.1&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0; &#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;&#0;sRGB IEC61966
> >
> >
> > "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > news:bs7m94$a0$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > > Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and
save
> > > them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
> > >
> > > I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be
> > color-managed
> > > using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but
> > that'd
> > > take time.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of any freeware tools that could rip the profiles off
a
> > > TIFF (or any other format)?
> > >
> > > "Glenn Pechacek" <pechnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:L4OdnU_11Ym0lnqiRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> > > > "Branko Vukelic" <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net...
> > > > > Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format)
file
> > > using
> > > > > Photoshop?
> > > > >
> > > > > I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I don't know if you can "extract" the profile, PhotoShop does read
the
> > > > embedded profile from several file formats, including TIFF. If a
> > file's
> > > > ICC profile is different than the current workspace than options are
> > > > presented, such as switching to the file's profile.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Tue, 23 December 2003 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Skee (Photoshop begginer)
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:55:52 +0100, nomail@please.invalid (Johan W.
Elzenga) wrote:

>Branko Vukelic <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and save
>> them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
>>
>> I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be color-managed
>> using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could* ask for them, but that'd
>> take time.
>
>Simple solution: Open one of those TIFF files in Illustrator. Select all
>and delete. That gives you an empty document, still in the correct color
>space and with the correct profile. Start working from there.

Also there's a plug-in called "Der Curvemeister" that shows a
comparative color profile as a set of curves, although I'm not as yet
sure what it all means in terms of furnishing useful information. The
ICC profiles are evidently a set of fairly complex curves, and the
numbers associated with these must be coefficients of some kind--does
anyone know how to correlate them?
Tue, 23 December 2003 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Russell (Photoshop expert)
Skee wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:55:52 +0100, nomail@please.invalid (Johan W.
> Elzenga) wrote:
>
>> Branko Vukelic <brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I know that it can read them. But I want to *extract* them and
>>> save them to my HDD, like CorelDRAW.
>>>
>>> I need to create some artwork in Illustrator and need it to be
>>> color-managed using the profile used in the TIFF files. I *could*
>>> ask for them, but that'd take time.
>>
>> Simple solution: Open one of those TIFF files in Illustrator. Select
>> all
>> and delete. That gives you an empty document, still in the correct
>> color space and with the correct profile. Start working from there.
>
> Also there's a plug-in called "Der Curvemeister" that shows a
> comparative color profile as a set of curves, although I'm not as yet
> sure what it all means in terms of furnishing useful information. The
> ICC profiles are evidently a set of fairly complex curves, and the
> numbers associated with these must be coefficients of some kind--does
> anyone know how to correlate them?

Der curvemeister shows what's known as the "neutral response" curve, meaning
the RGB values assigned to a neutral gray, ranging from a brightness of zero
to 100.

This is generally interesting for device profiles, such as scanners,
cameras, and printers because the RGB values usually do not coincide with
one another.

The neutral response curve is just a straight line for working spaces such
as Adobe RGB and sRGB. For those spaces, the Gamut viewer image is
interesting.

Check it all out for free at curvemeister:
http://www.curvemeister.com/downloads

--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
Tue, 23 December 2003 20:12 Go to previous message
WharfRat (Photoshop expert)
in article bs5p6l$n4s$1@cer.yubc.net, Branko Vukelic at
brankovukelic_remove_@hotpop.com wrote on 12/21/03 7:34 PM:

> Can I extract an ICC profile from a TIFF (or any other format) file using
> Photoshop?
>
> I hear Corel can do it, but what about Photoshop?
>
>
I believe you can extract the profile from a PDF.
I forget if it is with Acrobat or PitStop -
I will check it out next time I think of it.
If you have those, though -
you could save the file as a Photoshop PDF
and extract the profile from there.

MSD
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