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samhale
Sep 16, 2004
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Hey,

This is the first time I’ve used google groups, and I found it quite hard to find an appropriate group, so sorry if I have put this in the wrong one, if it is an you can sugguest a better group, i’d really apprechiate it.

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.

For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

If there is a special problem that you know can do this, please do say as i’m open for any sugguestions.

Thanks,
Sam.

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bhilton665
Sep 16, 2004
From: (Sam Hale)

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.
For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

Keep a copy as a .psd file (or a layered tiff if using the most recent versions of Photoshop) to preserve layers. When you Save As a jpeg it gets flattened.
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noone
Sep 16, 2004
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Hey,

This is the first time I’ve used google groups, and I found it quite hard to find an appropriate group, so sorry if I have put this in the wrong one, if it is an you can sugguest a better group, i’d really apprechiate it.

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.
For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

If there is a special problem that you know can do this, please do say as i’m open for any sugguestions.

Thanks,
Sam

This is one of the two correct groups to post PS/image manipulation questions – and welcome!

Bill Hilton has provided the only answer that I know of. The only hope would be to use the Healing Brush, or Patch Tool, or the Clone Tool, to rebuild the area that is "beneath" the type. The quotes are there because now, there is nothing beneath the type any longer. If you can do this, you could then add a Text Layer, Save_As PSD, then Save_As JPG. Unfortunately, as stated, once Flattened, the area beneath the type is replaced BY the type.

Sorry,
Hunt
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tacitr
Sep 17, 2004
Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.

Absolutely, positively not. No way, no how.

When you flatten an image, the layer information is *gone*. Forever. The pixels beneath the layers are changed. Nothing can restore the original layered image.

Always save two copies of your images–one in a layered format and one flattened.


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John Rampling
Sep 17, 2004
"Sam Hale" wrote in message
Hey,

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.
For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

If there is a special problem that you know can do this, please do say as i’m open for any sugguestions.

This may not answer your specific question, but it is quite an interesting topic anyway;

Dan Margulis has a tutorial at
http://www.ledet.com/margulis/LABCorrection.pdf Within the article he discusses an image on which the text layer has been flattened in the way you mention. Look at page 2 for the image and page 4 for the description. Incidentally there is an error; Dan says "Suppose that some knucklehead has merged and saved the green type into the image…". He means "red type" of course. I tried his method and it sort of works but I am not sure that it would be much good if the text was black or greyscale rather than colour.

BTW (Off topic) Dan’s book ‘Professional Photoshop’ is one of the ‘must-have’ books that keeps getting mentioned in this NG, but it is a bit expensive. With a bit of creative Googling I have been able to find PDF versions of several of the chapters on the web, plus other tutorials, giving me the chance to use Dan’s expertise while remaining the tightwad that I am. I might publish a few links if anyone’s interested.

HTH
John
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wrote on 09/17/2004 1:34 AM:

"Sam Hale" wrote in message
Hey,

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.
For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

If there is a special problem that you know can do this, please do say as i’m open for any sugguestions.

This may not answer your specific question, but it is quite an interesting topic anyway;

Dan Margulis has a tutorial at
http://www.artistmike.com Within the article he
discusses an image on which the text layer has been flattened in the way you mention.
HTH
John

Good link.
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Odysseus
Sep 17, 2004
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(Bill Hilton) wrote:

From: (Sam Hale)

Anyway, I was wondering if theres anyway you split a .jpg into the seperate layers once it’s been saved and put into one layer.
For example, if I was to take a photo with a camera, and then add text in photoshop, so theres two layers, the image and the text. Then save the file and close down photoshop. If I open the image up again, its all gone into just one layer, is there anyway of seperating the two again, to remove or adjust the text?

Keep a copy as a .psd file (or a layered tiff if using the most recent versions
of Photoshop) to preserve layers. When you Save As a jpeg it gets flattened.

And, in the case of the JPEG format, it gets not only flattened but compressed as well, discarding a great deal of the original information. It’s best not to use JPEG for any working or ‘master’ version of a document, even without layers.


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