The ultimate PC graphics machine

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Oct 13, 2004
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What would the ‘ultimate’ PC machine based on current technology be for home based post production photo editing(PhotoShop CS heavy Mb batch processing) and video editing (Adobe Premiere). Someone suggests me a Zeon multiple processor motherboard (up to four I believe) server with one or more Gb per chip memory with RAID etc etc. that would run with XP Professional. Graphics card to suit it?

What is the dream machine to blow the G5 away? Any specs recommendations. Let’s keep it around $US2.5k.

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weil91
Oct 13, 2004
<< What is the dream machine to blow the G5 away? >>

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Stuart
Oct 15, 2004
David Cramp wrote:
What would the ‘ultimate’ PC machine based on current technology be for home based post production photo editing(PhotoShop CS heavy Mb batch processing) and video editing (Adobe Premiere). Someone suggests me a Zeon multiple processor motherboard (up to four I believe) server with one or more Gb per chip memory with RAID etc etc. that would run with XP Professional. Graphics card to suit it?

What is the dream machine to blow the G5 away? Any specs recommendations. Let’s keep it around $US2.5k.

AMD Opterons are better and cheaper than Zeons, also Nvidia have a range of professional 2D cards.

Stuart
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Corey
Oct 24, 2004
To even come close to "blowing away" the Mac G5, you MUST have a 64-bit unit. No 32-bit PC can come close. However, some 32-bit PCs may be able to "suck away" the G5! 😉 Alas, Dell now makes a 64-bit workstation that uses Intel’s Xeon processor with extended memory that can accommodate up to 16 GB of RAM!! The Precision 670 is unique in that it supports both 32-bit and 64-bit Operating Systems and applications. So it makes for a great transitional unit. Prices start @ $1700. Microsoft has a free trial version of Widows XP 64-bit edition you can download from
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade. mspx

Peadge 🙂

"Stuart" wrote in message
David Cramp wrote:
What would the ‘ultimate’ PC machine based on current technology be for
home
based post production photo editing(PhotoShop CS heavy Mb batch
processing)
and video editing (Adobe Premiere). Someone suggests me a Zeon multiple processor motherboard (up to four I believe) server with one or more Gb
per
chip memory with RAID etc etc. that would run with XP Professional.
Graphics
card to suit it?

What is the dream machine to blow the G5 away? Any specs
recommendations.
Let’s keep it around $US2.5k.

AMD Opterons are better and cheaper than Zeons, also Nvidia have a range of professional 2D cards.

Stuart
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jjs
Oct 24, 2004
"Peadge" wrote in message
To even come close to "blowing away" the Mac G5, you MUST have a 64-bit unit. No 32-bit PC can come close.

Why? Got metrics?

However, some 32-bit PCs may be able to
"suck away" the G5! 😉 Alas, Dell now makes a 64-bit workstation that uses
Intel’s Xeon processor with extended memory that can accommodate up to 16 GB
of RAM!!

Why only 16GB? Should be lots more than that.
C
Corey
Oct 24, 2004
The amount of RAM is tied directly to the bit rate of the unit. 32-bit machines have a theoretical ceiling of 4 gigabytes. 64-bit have a ceiling of 16 GB.

Peadge 🙂

"jjs" wrote in message
"Peadge" wrote in message
To even come close to "blowing away" the Mac G5, you MUST have a 64-bit unit. No 32-bit PC can come close.

Why? Got metrics?

However, some 32-bit PCs may be able to
"suck away" the G5! 😉 Alas, Dell now makes a 64-bit workstation that uses
Intel’s Xeon processor with extended memory that can accommodate up to
16
GB
of RAM!!

Why only 16GB? Should be lots more than that.

J
jjs
Oct 24, 2004
"Peadge" wrote in message
The amount of RAM is tied directly to the bit rate of the unit. 32-bit machines have a theoretical ceiling of 4 gigabytes. 64-bit have a ceiling of
16 GB.

It’s a bit bit early to espouse a 64-bit OS for Most of Us. Most applications operate in 32-bit and still cannot access more than 1.8gb, and schleping around a 64-bit word is very expensive in terms of overhead. It’s not free.
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Stuart
Oct 25, 2004
Peadge wrote:
To even come close to "blowing away" the Mac G5, you MUST have a 64-bit unit. No 32-bit PC can come close. However, some 32-bit PCs may be able to "suck away" the G5! 😉 Alas, Dell now makes a 64-bit workstation that uses Intel’s Xeon processor with extended memory that can accommodate up to 16 GB of RAM!! The Precision 670 is unique in that it supports both 32-bit and 64-bit Operating Systems and applications. So it makes for a great transitional unit. Prices start @ $1700. Microsoft has a free trial version of Widows XP 64-bit edition you can download from
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/upgrade. mspx
Peadge 🙂

I see you are getting sucked into Dells PR bollocks, The Precision 670 is not unique in its support for both 32-bit and 64-bit, AMD 64-bit chips have been capable of that since they were first made. It may be unique because it is the first system to ship with Windows XP 64-bit edition.

Stuart
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Stuart
Oct 25, 2004
Peadge wrote:

The amount of RAM is tied directly to the bit rate of the unit. 32-bit machines have a theoretical ceiling of 4 gigabytes. 64-bit have a ceiling of 16 GB.

Peadge 🙂

Actually that is more like 16 Tb not Gb. 16 Gb is a software limit not the theoretical hardware limit.

Stuart
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Stuart
Oct 25, 2004
Stuart wrote:

Peadge wrote:

The amount of RAM is tied directly to the bit rate of the unit. 32-bit machines have a theoretical ceiling of 4 gigabytes. 64-bit have a ceiling of
16 GB.

Peadge 🙂

Actually that is more like 16 Tb not Gb. 16 Gb is a software limit not the theoretical hardware limit.

Stuart

Apologies I was wrong this is what it can access. A 64-bit computer can address 16 exabytes of memory. (An exabyte is 1,000 petabytes, a petabyte is 1,000 terabytes and a terabyte is 1,000 gigabytes.)

So I slightly underestimated the maximum.

Stuart
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Xalinai
Oct 25, 2004
Stuart wrote:

Stuart wrote:

Peadge wrote:

The amount of RAM is tied directly to the bit rate of the unit.
32-bit >> machines have a theoretical ceiling of 4 gigabytes. 64-bit have a >> ceiling of
16 GB.

Peadge 🙂

Actually that is more like 16 Tb not Gb. 16 Gb is a software limit not the theoretical hardware limit.

Stuart

Apologies I was wrong this is what it can access. A 64-bit computer can address 16 exabytes of memory. (An exabyte is 1,000 petabytes, a petabyte is 1,000 terabytes and a terabyte is 1,000 gigabytes.)
So I slightly underestimated the maximum.

Correct order: kilo, mega, giga, tera, exa, peta

Michael

Stuart
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Odysseus
Oct 25, 2004
In article <cljb8m$pip$01$>,
"Xalinai" wrote:

Stuart wrote:
[snip]

Apologies I was wrong this is what it can access. A 64-bit computer can address 16 exabytes of memory. (An exabyte is 1,000 petabytes, a petabyte is 1,000 terabytes and a terabyte is 1,000 gigabytes.)
So I slightly underestimated the maximum.

Correct order: kilo, mega, giga, tera, exa, peta
The last two should be switched; Stuart had the order right. But if you’re describing powers of two instead of of ten (more precisely 1024 = 2^10 instead of 1000 = 10^3), the official prefixes are kibi-, mebi-, gibi-, tebi-, pebi-, & exbi-. The "bi" stands for "binary". The abbreviations are mostly the same as for the corresponding multiple of a thousand in SI, but followed with a lowercase "i": 1 kB = 1000 bytes, but 1KiB (note that the "K" is capitalized, unlike the SI prefix) = 1024 bytes.

So 16 exabytes (16 EB) = 16000 petabytes = 1.6*10^19 bytes, but the address space of a 64-bit register is 2^64 bytes = 16 exbibytes (16 EiB) = 16384 pebibytes ~= 1.85*10^19 bytes, about fifteen percent more.

See <http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html>.


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