Fine detail in selections

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Mike
Oct 15, 2004
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Hi, I’m finally beginning to understand the basics of how masks work in PS7 – and how powerful they are when making accurate selections. By combining the conventional selection tools, then fine tuning the mask and a little feathering I am able to get some pretty good selections. However, I sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly fine detail such as strands of hair. No matter how hard I try I am unable to do this – which is a pity because I have a wonderful picture of my wife with her (long) hair being swept by the wind. I would love to be able to do a cut-out of her and include the very fine detail of her hair but without any background detail. Can anybody help? Many thanks.

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bogus
Oct 15, 2004
There are a number of third party products that create masks. They work as plugin’s to Photoshop. You can probably do the same with the tools in PS but the plugins, with their refined algorythms, help you do it faster.

One tip is to look in the channels. Sometimes a channel shows contrast and makes a good beginning for a mask.

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Mike wrote:

Hi, I’m finally beginning to understand the basics of how masks work in PS7 – and how powerful they are when making accurate selections. By combining the conventional selection tools, then fine tuning the mask and a little feathering I am able to get some pretty good selections. However, I sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly fine detail such as strands of hair. No matter how hard I try I am unable to do this – which is a pity because I have a wonderful picture of my wife with her (long) hair being swept by the wind. I would love to be able to do a cut-out of her and include the very fine detail of her hair but without any background detail. Can anybody help? Many thanks.

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tacitr
Oct 15, 2004
However, I
sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly fine detail such as strands of hair.

In a situation like that, it’s best to shoot the model against a strongly colored background. If there’s a good differentiation between the hair color and the background color, the Select->color Range command can make selecting the background quite easy.

If there isn’t a strong differentiation, then often making the selection requires hand-painting in the mask with a very fine brush. It’s time-consuming and exacting work, but can produce phenomenal results.


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Harry Limey
Oct 15, 2004
Take a picture just of the hair being blown by a fan and as Tacit suggests use a contrasting plain background or the background you intend to use in the final product, and then superimpose the hair, save hours of fine selection work!!
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Hi, I’m finally beginning to understand the basics of how masks work in PS7 – and how powerful they are when making accurate selections. By combining the conventional selection tools, then fine tuning the mask and
a
little feathering I am able to get some pretty good selections. However, I sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly
fine
detail such as strands of hair. No matter how hard I try I am unable to do this – which is a pity because I have a wonderful picture of my wife with her (long) hair being swept by the wind. I would love to be able to do a cut-out of her and include the very fine detail of her hair but without
any
background detail. Can anybody help? Many thanks.


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ramona
Oct 16, 2004
I tend to agree that making such a selection is time-consuming at best, or painful at worst. Yet, numerous tutorials and books try to convince readers that it could be easily done. They cheat like hell by using examples that are easy to select.

Tacit wrote:
However, I
sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly fine detail such as strands of hair.

In a situation like that, it’s best to shoot the model against a strongly colored background. If there’s a good differentiation between the hair color and the background color, the Select->color Range command can make selecting the background quite easy.

If there isn’t a strong differentiation, then often making the selection requires hand-painting in the mask with a very fine brush. It’s time-consuming and exacting work, but can produce phenomenal results.


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edjh
Oct 16, 2004
Mike wrote:
Hi, I’m finally beginning to understand the basics of how masks work in PS7 – and how powerful they are when making accurate selections. By combining the conventional selection tools, then fine tuning the mask and a little feathering I am able to get some pretty good selections. However, I sometimes see in newspapers or magazines cut-outs of people – especially women – where the photographer/artist has managed to include incredibly fine detail such as strands of hair. No matter how hard I try I am unable to do this – which is a pity because I have a wonderful picture of my wife with her (long) hair being swept by the wind. I would love to be able to do a cut-out of her and include the very fine detail of her hair but without any background detail. Can anybody help? Many thanks.
Knockout 2 does a great job of this but it’s hard to learn.

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