Gleaming skin

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Oct 30, 2004
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What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


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Corey
Oct 30, 2004
You may be able to make a feathered selection of "quality" skin from a different area of the photo and copy and paste it into a new layer. Or, if you have a similar shot from the same shooting, take an area from that photo. Then adjust the opacity and/or add an adjustment layer to blend it with the original. You may even try using a small selection and altering the size and blurring a bit to reduce the pixilation. The smudge tool or Liquify command bay also prove useful. If you try the Liquify Command (CTRL+SHFT+X), you might want to turn on the visibility of the other layer(s). I would stick with a separate layer to avoid altering the original. or make a copy of the original if you decide to tweak it directly for additional blending. If this is done, the tiny addition of noise in combination with brightness/contrast and color adjustments may be beneficial.

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What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


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no_email
Oct 30, 2004
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:17:19 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


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can you post a URL so we can see how bad the hot spots are? I have on occassion repaired some with total loss of info, but it is not an easy matter…
JM
John McWilliams
Oct 30, 2004
ZONED! wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:17:19 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.

can you post a URL so we can see how bad the hot spots are? I have on occassion repaired some with total loss of info, but it is not an easy matter…

In this particular instance, no can do. Involves a friend and a public personality, among other reasons. Pic was taken by her husband, only one, so no can re-do.

I was thinking maybe there’s something like "digital pancake", or a spray on powder type of brush/spray can.


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bagal
Oct 30, 2004
Try

1 – copy the original image (into a new layer or new image)

2 – tweak the selected areas with multiply or Shadows/Highlights

3 – in this copied image the areas of attention are purely the blown bits

4 – use a selective mask between both images altering opacity as required

5 – see adobe website if the image is in RAW format

Aerticus

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ZONED! wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:17:19 GMT, John McWilliams
wrote:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.

can you post a URL so we can see how bad the hot spots are? I have on occassion repaired some with total loss of info, but it is not an easy matter…

In this particular instance, no can do. Involves a friend and a public personality, among other reasons. Pic was taken by her husband, only one, so no can re-do.

I was thinking maybe there’s something like "digital pancake", or a spray on powder type of brush/spray can.


John McWilliams
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patrick
Oct 30, 2004
Are you using PS CS o0r PS Elements?
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What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin
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David Dyer-Bennet
Oct 30, 2004
John McWilliams writes:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.

I find that using airbrush (photoshop airbrush tool; I’m on-topic here :-)) to lightly go over the shiny areas with a color picked from nearby non-glaring skin works surprisingly well. Use a *low* flow rate, down around 5-10%.

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John McWilliams
Oct 30, 2004
David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
John McWilliams writes:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.

I find that using airbrush (photoshop airbrush tool; I’m on-topic here :-)) to lightly go over the shiny areas with a color picked from nearby non-glaring skin works surprisingly well. Use a *low* flow rate, down around 5-10%.

Ah. That sounds like it, and thanks for that as well as others’ ideas. It may be the "digital pancake" I have been looking for. And I have yet to use the airbrush in PS (CS), so the flow rate is pretty good to know.


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Tom Nelson
Nov 1, 2004
In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

I find that using airbrush (photoshop airbrush tool; I’m on-topic here :-)) to lightly go over the shiny areas with a color picked from nearby non-glaring skin works surprisingly well. Use a *low* flow rate, down around 5-10%.

One other tweak: set the brush’s blending mode to "darken." Now you add density to the blown-out areas without destroying any remaining skin texture. You also don’t have to mask the hair since it’s usually darker as well. Do your airbrushing on a separate transparent layer so you can change opacity if you go too far, or trash the whole thing if you make a botch of it.

Tom Nelson
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John McWilliams
Nov 2, 2004
Tom Nelson wrote:

In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

I find that using airbrush (photoshop airbrush tool; I’m on-topic here :-)) to lightly go over the shiny areas with a color picked from nearby non-glaring skin works surprisingly well. Use a *low* flow rate, down around 5-10%.

One other tweak: set the brush’s blending mode to "darken." Now you add density to the blown-out areas without destroying any remaining skin texture. You also don’t have to mask the hair since it’s usually darker as well. Do your airbrushing on a separate transparent layer so you can change opacity if you go too far, or trash the whole thing if you make a botch of it.
Nice refinement! Thanks to all….

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spykekc
Nov 3, 2004
John McWilliams wrote:
What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


John mcWilliams

You should also try the clone stamp tool. Use a brush with a highly feathered edge and set the blending mode to darken. Find an area of skin with the about the same tonal ranch and sample from there by holding down the Alt key and left clicking. Then bruch over the hot spot. You may have to sample in several different areas until you find the perfect skin tones.

This method can be reversed to lighten dark patches like wrinkles, blemishes and dark circles. Just set the blending mode to lighten and repeat the process.

Hope this helps.
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spykekc
Nov 3, 2004
John McWilliams wrote:
What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


John mcWilliams

You should also try the clone stamp tool. Use a brush with a highly feathered edge and set the blending mode to darken. Find an area of skin with the about the same tonal range and sample from there by holding down the Alt key and left clicking. Then brush over the hot spot. You may have to sample in several different areas until you find the perfect skin tones. You may also want to clone onto a new layer.

This method can be reversed to lighten dark patches like wrinkles, blemishes and dark circles. Just set the blending mode to lighten and repeat the process.

Hope this helps.
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Robert Donaldson
Nov 3, 2004
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John McWilliams wrote:
What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.
In addition to previous suggestions – the use of Gaussian Blur set relatively high setting, 30 or so, on a layer set to soft light can enhance the skin tone appearance. The opacity of the layer can be adjusted to suit.
JM
John McWilliams
Nov 4, 2004
Robert Donaldson wrote:

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John McWilliams wrote:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.
In addition to previous suggestions – the use of Gaussian Blur set relatively high setting, 30 or so, on a layer set to soft light can enhance the skin tone appearance. The opacity of the layer can be adjusted to suit.
Thank you but that was already done.


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John McWilliams
Nov 4, 2004
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John McWilliams wrote:

What’s a good method for removing sheen on skin besides retaking the picture with the flash toned down or better angle with the light? Cloning, patch and heal don’t work so well, and a Gaussian blur has already been applied, so …. the skin is still too shiny in obvious spots like forehead and cheek.


John mcWilliams

You should also try the clone stamp tool. Use a brush with a highly feathered edge and set the blending mode to darken. Find an area of skin with the about the same tonal range and sample from there by holding down the Alt key and left clicking. Then brush over the hot spot. You may have to sample in several different areas until you find the perfect skin tones. You may also want to clone onto a new layer.
This method can be reversed to lighten dark patches like wrinkles, blemishes and dark circles. Just set the blending mode to lighten and repeat the process.

Hope this helps.
As I mentioned above, the clone tool wasn’t satisfactory, as these weren’t spot highlights; large areas of forehead and cheek with lots of flash bouncing off.

Besides, I don’t left click! But thank you.


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