Need Advice – Laser Printer purchase

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Need to get some professional advice on the purchase of a laster printer for our workplace. We are currently looking for a laser printer to be able to handle the following:

– 13 x 19 Super B paper printing (1-sided).
-PostScript ready for use with CorelDraw 10 and Adobe Photoshop 7 running on a Windows XP O/S.
– Highest resolution possible as these will be going to camera for shooting negatives from, prefer minimum of 600 x 600 dpi.
– Capable of doing Letter, Legal and Tabloid printing as well as Super B. – Would GREATLY prefer a colour laser at this time as we are trying to rid ourselves of the inkjet printer we currently use.

The colour is not so much an issue here, but obviously we do print in colour from time to time for proofing purposes as well as for making some posters and individual fliers. Our ideal colour would be able to print on 13×19 but typically we only go as large as 12×18 printing in colour. But for making b/w prints we do use and require 13×19 paper for some of our larger print jobs.

For colour we do NOT want to go back to inkjets if at all possible as we know that inkjets will not produce the proper screens and halftones we need in b/w mode. Only a quality laser printer can accomplish this. Hence the reason we are looking for something that can do both. So far I’m running into a brick wall and not finding anything that seems to be able to handle the 12×18 or 13×19 printing. I guess lasers can only do 11×17? Not sure why, though.

So what do you all use out there? I’m sure not everyone is using inkjets for colour work and I can’t believe that no one prints over 11×17 in colour. So I need some recommendations from graphics professionals.

Thanks in advance for all your help!

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tacitr
Nov 12, 2004
– Highest resolution possible as these will be going to camera for shooting negatives from, prefer minimum of 600 x 600 dpi.

Do you plan to use this laser printer to print halftones?

If so, you can not use a color laer printer. You MUST use a black and white laser printer.

Color laser printers are continuous-tone devices. They do not print halftones; therefore, they can not be used to produce camera-ready artwork of halftones.

Xante makes a line of 1200-dpi PostScript black and white laser printers that should meet your needs nicely.

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RSD99
Nov 12, 2004
Tacit …. if you don’t mind taking a few seconds to educate us …

What has your experience with Xante been?

How is their "Build Quality" and reliability?

How "easy" (or "hard") is their product support staff to deal with?

How difficult is it to get supplies?

Thank you

"Tacit" wrote in message
– Highest resolution possible as these will be going to camera for
shooting
negatives from, prefer minimum of 600 x 600 dpi.

Do you plan to use this laser printer to print halftones?
If so, you can not use a color laer printer. You MUST use a black and
white
laser printer.

Color laser printers are continuous-tone devices. They do not print
halftones;
therefore, they can not be used to produce camera-ready artwork of
halftones.
Xante makes a line of 1200-dpi PostScript black and white laser printers
that
should meet your needs nicely.

—
Art, literature, shareware, polyamory, kink, and more:
http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
M
marks542004
Nov 14, 2004
"Ginger/Discovery" …
Need to get some professional advice on the purchase of a laster printer for our workplace. We are currently looking for a laser printer to be able to handle the following:

– 13 x 19 Super B paper printing (1-sided).
-PostScript ready for use with CorelDraw 10 and Adobe Photoshop 7 running on a Windows XP O/S.
– Highest resolution possible as these will be going to camera for shooting negatives from, prefer minimum of 600 x 600 dpi.
– Capable of doing Letter, Legal and Tabloid printing as well as Super B. – Would GREATLY prefer a colour laser at this time as we are trying to rid ourselves of the inkjet printer we currently use.

The colour is not so much an issue here, but obviously we do print in colour from time to time for proofing purposes as well as for making some posters and individual fliers. Our ideal colour would be able to print on 13×19 but typically we only go as large as 12×18 printing in colour. But for making b/w prints we do use and require 13×19 paper for some of our larger print jobs.

For colour we do NOT want to go back to inkjets if at all possible as we know that inkjets will not produce the proper screens and halftones we need in b/w mode. Only a quality laser printer can accomplish this. Hence the reason we are looking for something that can do both. So far I’m running into a brick wall and not finding anything that seems to be able to handle the 12×18 or 13×19 printing. I guess lasers can only do 11×17? Not sure why, though.

So what do you all use out there? I’m sure not everyone is using inkjets for colour work and I can’t believe that no one prints over 11×17 in colour. So I need some recommendations from graphics professionals.
Thanks in advance for all your help!

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It sounds like you would benefit from talking to a rep from Xerox or one of the printing trade dealers.

Most laser printers I have encountered are set up for general office work, which means 81/2 x 11 paper as standard.

There are office type photocopiers with interfaces to drive them as printers but these are many thousands of dollars to buy.

I question your comment on the inkjet printers since the one I bought recently claims 4800 x 2400 dpi resolution compared with 600 dpi for my laser printer.

best of luck.
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tacitr
Nov 14, 2004
I question your comment on the inkjet printers since the one I bought recently claims 4800 x 2400 dpi resolution compared with 600 dpi for my laser printer.

This is one of those places where imprecise use of language, or imprecise understanding of how printers work, will really get you into trouble.

Yes, a consumer inkjet printer might have an advertised resolution of 2400 dpi or higher. The thing is, one "dot" does NOT equal one pixel! The individual ink droplets are very small, but it requires many, many, many inkjet droplets to make one pixel.

A 2400 dpi consumer inkjet printer typically has an effective resolution of about 240 to 280 pixels per inch. When printing, say, black text or linework, the effective resolution of a 2400-dpi consumer inkjet printer is actually LESS than that of a 300-dpi laser printer.

Also, an inkjetprinter is not suitable for making camera-ready artwork. Camera-ready artwork that is going to a printing plate must be "halftoned"–that is, the rangeof tones must be broken up into discrete dots a fixed distance apart. (Look at a newspaper picture with a magnifying glass and oyu’ll see what I mean.) Inkjet printers don’t do this.

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John Rockrohr
Nov 16, 2004
We have a Canon CLC1180 laser color copier with a Fiery rip connected to our network that handles 12×18 thru the by-pass. You can get full 11×17 bleeds, but that’s about it. If you do go this route plan on leasing and getting a maintenance contract. Color laser copiers do a very good job, but need routine maintenance. Maybe see if newer Canon models, or models from Xerox handle larger paper sizes. I believe the max resolution is 400dpi color, 600dpi B/W. If you plan on printing at higher resolution at the sizes your talking about, plan on getting the fastest rip, and spending some money. Minolta would be another brand to look into for black and white.

Maybe look into printing direct to plate, and skip the negs if you really need 600dpi?

Good Luck,
John Rockrohr

"Ginger/Discovery" wrote in message
Need to get some professional advice on the purchase of a laster printer
for
our workplace. We are currently looking for a laser printer to be able to handle the following:

– 13 x 19 Super B paper printing (1-sided).
-PostScript ready for use with CorelDraw 10 and Adobe Photoshop 7 running on a Windows XP O/S.
– Highest resolution possible as these will be going to camera for
shooting
negatives from, prefer minimum of 600 x 600 dpi.
– Capable of doing Letter, Legal and Tabloid printing as well as Super B. – Would GREATLY prefer a colour laser at this time as we are trying to rid ourselves of the inkjet printer we currently use.

The colour is not so much an issue here, but obviously we do print in
colour
from time to time for proofing purposes as well as for making some posters and individual fliers. Our ideal colour would be able to print on 13×19
but
typically we only go as large as 12×18 printing in colour. But for making b/w prints we do use and require 13×19 paper for some of our larger print jobs.

For colour we do NOT want to go back to inkjets if at all possible as we know that inkjets will not produce the proper screens and halftones we
need
in b/w mode. Only a quality laser printer can accomplish this. Hence the reason we are looking for something that can do both. So far I’m running into a brick wall and not finding anything that seems to be able to handle the 12×18 or 13×19 printing. I guess lasers can only do 11×17? Not sure why, though.

So what do you all use out there? I’m sure not everyone is using inkjets for colour work and I can’t believe that no one prints over 11×17 in
colour.
So I need some recommendations from graphics professionals.
Thanks in advance for all your help!

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