Photoshop Elements (vs full or LE version) and BMP problem

TK
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Ted Kerin
Dec 1, 2004
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Hi all,

I need to download BMP images from a proprietary program, then copy/paste them into an imaging program. I’m surprised by the inconsistencies between PS Elements and other programs (including Photoshop) in this task, and I hope someone can shed some light on this for me.

If I copy one of the images, then paste it into a "new" file in any full version of Photoshop — or even into PS LE 4, or even into Irfanview, or even into MS Paint(!) — I
get a proper image, like this (which I have re-saved as a jpg instead of a BMP, for purposes of the web):

http://home.earthlink.net/~tfkerin/repdog-irfan.jpg

However, if I try the same thing in PS Elements 2 or 3, I get a bad image like this (again, re-saved here as a jpg):

http://home.earthlink.net/~tfkerin/repdog-pse3.jpg

I have tried various settings in PS Elements before pasting the clipboard contents into the "new" image, trying different modes for the "New" file, transparent-or-white backgrounds, etc,….and nothing seems to make a difference, although I cannot be sure whether I’ve missed some magic combination. The puzzling thing is, it seems to easily work fine in any imaging program I’ve tried, except PS Elements (2 or 3).

My problem, incidentally, is that although I have full Photoshop at one work site, I am limited to PS Elements at the other.

Any thoughts as to the cause of this quirk of PS Elements, or how to work around it in Elements, would be much appreciated.

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RSD99
Dec 1, 2004
First:
Is there any reason why you "… copy/paste them into an imaging program …." rather than save them to disk as a Windows Bitmap file, and then open that file with PhotoShop?

Second:
What program are you using when you"copy" the images? Maybe it’s Clipboard is not "compatible" with PhotoShop Elements’ Clipboard.

Third:
What happens when you save them to disk as a Windows Bitmap file, and then open that file with PhotoShop Elements?

Fourth:
Well, PhotoShop Elements is up to version three now … which version are you using when you are having this problem?

"Ted Kerin" wrote in message
Hi all,

I need to download BMP images from a proprietary program, then copy/paste them into an imaging program. I’m surprised by the inconsistencies
between
PS Elements and other programs (including Photoshop) in this task, and I hope someone can shed some light on this for me.

If I copy one of the images, then paste it into a "new" file in any full version of Photoshop — or even into PS LE 4, or even into Irfanview, or even into MS Paint(!) — I
get a proper image, like this (which I have re-saved as a jpg instead of
a
BMP, for purposes of the web):

http://home.earthlink.net/~tfkerin/repdog-irfan.jpg

However, if I try the same thing in PS Elements 2 or 3, I get a bad image like this (again, re-saved here as a jpg):

http://home.earthlink.net/~tfkerin/repdog-pse3.jpg

I have tried various settings in PS Elements before pasting the clipboard contents into the "new" image, trying different modes for the "New" file, transparent-or-white backgrounds, etc,….and nothing seems to make a difference, although I cannot be sure whether I’ve missed some magic combination. The puzzling thing is, it seems to easily work fine in any imaging program I’ve tried, except PS Elements (2 or 3).
My problem, incidentally, is that although I have full Photoshop at one
work
site, I am limited to PS Elements at the other.

Any thoughts as to the cause of this quirk of PS Elements, or how to work around it in Elements, would be much appreciated.

T
tacitr
Dec 2, 2004
I need to download BMP images from a proprietary program, then copy/paste them into an imaging program.

Don’t copy/paste. Save the image to disk and then open it in Photoshop or Elements.


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Ted Kerin
Dec 2, 2004
Thanks, to you and to Tacit, for your thoughts and replies.

"RSD99" wrote in message
First:
Is there any reason why you "… copy/paste them into an imaging program …" rather than save them to disk as a Windows Bitmap file, and then open that file with PhotoShop?

Yes. The program does not offer a "save image" option. You can save the text (as .RTF), but the image portion of the record will be ignored by the Save command. Other options are to copy the text and/or the image, then to paste both into Word, or to copy/paste image only into an imaging program.

Oddly, another thing that works is to copy the image (or text + image) into Word, then to copy/paste the image from Word into PS Elements. But this seems like a work-ariound that should be unnecessary, especially since even the primitive MS Paint can do the job woithout using Word as a middle-man.

Second:
What program are you using when you"copy" the images? Maybe it’s Clipboard is not "compatible" with PhotoShop Elements’ Clipboard.

As I said, it’s a proprietary program, which I didn’t name because I doubted that its name would would help anyone, since I don’t know what’s under the hood. I don’t know, for example, whether the prog has its own clipboard separate from Windows clipboard. It’s called DialogLink3 — software from a company that offers patent and trademark records (among many other Lexis/Nexis type records) to online subscribers, including text and images. (Doesn’t help you, right?)

Third:
What happens when you save them to disk as a Windows Bitmap file, and then open that file with PhotoShop Elements?

Good question, but I cannot save the images to disk, directly from the downloading program, as I’ve explained above.

Fourth:
Well, PhotoShop Elements is up to version three now … which version are you using when you are having this problem?

As indicated already in my original post, I have both Elements 2 and Elements 3, and they both have this problem. This issue reveals, I think, a surprising distinction in functionality between Photoshop (4 or 7 or 8, or even Photoshop LE, none of which have this problem), -vs- Photoshop Elements.

Thanks again. I just realized that Elements has its own newsgroup, so I should probably post there instead.
J
jjs
Dec 2, 2004
"Ted Kerin" wrote in message
Hi all,

Ted, just save the BMP files to disc, then open them with Elements (or drag them from disc into the Elements window.) If most of your files are line-art, and you plan to use them commercially, then cleaning up will probably be neccessary anyway. That’s a different topic, but ask if you need to know.
TK
Ted Kerin
Dec 2, 2004
"jjs" wrote in message

Ted, just save the BMP files to disc, then open them with Elements (or
drag
them from disc into the Elements window.)

No can do, but thanks. Your post probably crossed in cyberspace with my follow-up post, explaining the limtis of the source prog.
PD
postman delivers
Dec 3, 2004
"Ted Kerin" wrote in message
"jjs" wrote in message

Ted, just save the BMP files to disc, then open them with Elements (or
drag
them from disc into the Elements window.)

No can do, but thanks. Your post probably crossed in cyberspace with my follow-up post, explaining the limtis of the source prog.

Ted, I posted a answer on the elements newsgroup, or one way around the clipboard.. As there as many solutions to most every problem…

JR the postman

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