Color Replacement Tool in CS – Red Eye Removal

JH
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Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
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I’ve been trying to use the red eye removal procedure posted by Adobe using the Color Replacement Tool. I must be missing something because even with black (000000) selected as my foreground color, I can only paint with a shade of grey (not black).

As instructed:
Brush size is smaller than red eye
Mode set to Color
Sampling set to Once
Limits set to Discontiguous
Tolerance set to 30 (other settings make no noticeable difference) Foreground color is set to Black (000000)
I tried it with Wacom mouse AND pen. No difference. Repeats of the procedure make no appreciable difference in the darkness of the grey – nowhere near black.

Has anyone had success with this procedure? Am I doing something wrong?

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dave_milbut
Nov 6, 2003
see the forum faq (top of this forum list) and use the channel mixer method. or the desaturate tool method. unless you’re just stubborn like me and want to make that tutorial work! 🙂

can you post a link to the tutorial?
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
Dave,

Yeah, I’m stubborn. I have been using the channel mixer method for awhile and it works flawlessly.

I just wanted to try the procedure using the new tool (in the same dropdown as Healing Brush).

I can’t give you the link because it is installed with Photoshop on your local drive. I’ll see if I can copy and paste it for you.
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
Here’s the tutorial sans pictures:

Remove red-eye in images

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There’s nothing more frustrating than having a great picture ruined when a person’s eyes come out bright red. Adobe Photoshop gives you a simple way to fix red-eye using the Color Replacement tool. In this tutorial, you’ll learn how to use the tool to fix red-eye in just a few steps.

1. Open your image.

Open the image that you want to repair. Try zooming in so you can easily see the red eyes that need to be fixed. Then, select the Color Replacement tool (located in the toolbox with the Healing Brush and Patch tool).

2. Choose a brush tip.

Choose a brush tip from the options bar. The brush tip should be smaller than the red area of the eye to make correcting the red-eye easier.

3. Set options for the Color Replacement tool.

In the options bar, you can choose settings that help you fix red-eye. For Mode, make sure that Color is selected. For the Sampling option, choose Once to erase only areas containing the color that you target. For the Limits option, select Discontiguous to replace the sampled color wherever it occurs under the brush. Drag the Tolerance slider to a low value (around 30 percent) to replace only the few colors very similar to the pixels you click.

4. Choose a color to replace the red.

Typically, black is a good choice, but you could try other colors to more closely resemble a person’s eye color. To choose a color, click the foreground color swatch in the toolbox. In the color picker, choose a color that looks good, and then click OK.

5. Repair your photo.

Click once on the color you want to replace in the image. Drag over the red with black to repair the image. If all the red isn’t removed, try increasing the Tolerance level in the options bar to correct more shades of red.

Once you’re happy with the correction, save your image. Red-eye will never present a problem again!
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 6, 2003
no don’t worry about it. i should find it when i get cs in about a week (free shipping is slow!<sigh>)

if you could just tell me where it is and how to find it once i install cs that’d be cool…
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 6, 2003
oops. cross posted. thanks. 🙂
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
It’s in the Help.html file. The new Help menu is really pretty nice … you’ll like all the links it gives you.

This is the location on my machine:

D:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS\Help\help.html
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
Followup:

It seems the only mode that gives me the black I want (the choices are hue, saturation, color, luminosity) is luminosity. The others just produce a grey.

I MUST be missing something here because I don’t see how this is much different than just painting with the regular paintbrush tool except for the tolerance setting. Carol? Anyone?

Jake
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
Am I really the only person who has run into this? I could use a little advice, please.

Jake
DH
Derwin_Hales
Nov 6, 2003
Jake,

Please forgive me if your much more advanced than I, I am just transitioning from Elements 2 to CS. I was also having problems with masking and the replacment. I just couldnt get the brush hard enough to give me black on a white mask. Finally, I went to the brushes pallet that was docked and low and behold there were a bunch of settings that were watering down the brush. I never set them because those aren’t even available in Elements. It appears that the original brush characteristics on initial install have a preset for a way wimpy brush. Once I unchecked all the properties, the brushes for masks worked much better. I haven’t had a chance to see if that cleared up my replacment coloring, but figure it probably will. Hope this was helpful.
DH
Derwin_Hales
Nov 6, 2003
Jake,

One other thing.. do a search in the forums for red eye… You’ll find some Elements discussion around this. Elements 2 has had this tool (not exactly the same, but almost) for a while and there are a couple of threads that discuss it in elements. The tool tries to blend and not exactly replace.
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 6, 2003
Thanks, Derwin, I will try your suggestions. I never thought about searching the Elements forum. I’ll also try the brushes pallet to see if there isn’t a similar situation as you described.

I appreciate your answer.

Jake
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dave_milbut
Nov 7, 2003
I can only paint with a shade of grey (not black).

I think I see what you mean. I think it depends on the section of the eye you’re working on. If there’s red in the section of the eye that usually shows white (the pupil where the flash is reflected) you’ll get a grayish hue. But it DOES remove the red from the rest of the eye (the iris). To finish up use the dodge tool to remove some of the gray from the center of he pupil.

I tried it with the channel mixer way too (From the FAQ). Honestly, I like those results better. There’s more control over selection (I use the quick mask first to make my selection then follow the FAQ’s procedure, which I’ve actionized and assigned to a function key). You can also clean up the pupil if necessary with desaturate then brighten.

As w/almost anything in PS, there’s usually at least 3 ways to do something. This one isn’t an end all, be all, but it is a good tool in the arsonal. I’m not sure this is the best use for it. Time will tell, I suppose.

dave
JH
Jake_Hannam
Nov 7, 2003
Thanks, Dave. I agree that the channel mixer method is the best and I will continue using it.

I just wanted to try the new tool using the technique in that link I gave you yesterday (I figured if Adobe posted it, they would know what they are talking about). It’s disappointing that it doesn’t work as described.

I found that using the Color Replacement Tool (at the settings Adobe published in the tutorial) and then using Burn did make for a fairly good result. It’ll have to do for now. Thanks again for taking the time for me.

Jake
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 8, 2003
Followup. I used the color replace method where the red was strictly limited to the pupil (the iris was clean and the white "flash dot" was clean) and it did a really nice job very quickly. So as w/anything regarding when to use a specific technique in PS, the answer seems to be: "it depends" on each image. Use the tool/technique that’s right for a specific job. 🙂

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