I just started messing with the metadata tools in the filebrowser and I am very excited about what I see so far. Hate to think I am going to dive into a SDK! But I want to customize the fields already.
bob
Here are some of my initial thought and questions.
Setup ran for 4.75 minutes including activation. Activation by itself ran for a total of 12 seconds. Start PS. Register w/adobe.
TOTAL TIME FROM POPPING IN THE DISK TO FULLY USABLE/REGISTERED CS INSTALLATION: 5.5 minutes.
HISTORY LOG whoo hoo!
No way to import workspaces (save load like other settings).
Images opening seem to respect palette locations but not the tool bar.
Don’t like the 1024×768 requirement.
Can’t bring the browser to 2nd monitor w/o expanding full app to both monitors. Even then, it hides behind palettes that are there. I don’t like doing that (extending the desktop to both monitors) anyway because zoom (with window resize on) extends the main image onto the 2nd monitor. I really don’t like the fact that it’s (the browser) now standalon and undockable to the palette well.
Color Match is awesome.
Shadow/Hilight is even awesomer! 🙂 I’m getting some great results with this and color match where I have some really dark images taken at the same time as a bunch of good ones. When I have a good image to work with, color match seems to be the way to go, when none is available shadow/hilight does an awesome job of bringing out much detail.
Filter Gallary is nice too when you’re not sure what you want to do next. I’m sure there’s more power there from what I’ve read. I need to dig into this one more.
What specifically are the 2 instances of "~e5d141.tmp" running in my task manager, and can I remove that file from my system? it’s coming from the windows\prefetch directory.
Why does PSCS want to connect to the internet every time I start it? Where is the ability to turn off the AOM? Is it gone?
My biggest complaint is with the need to expand the app window onto both windows in order to spread out. That is a bummer, especially if the two monitors sit at different heights and have different resolutions.
Photomerge is very handy. Ability to create little flash objects is great.
bob
Ability to create little flash objects is great.
Ooh! That’s right. I havent’ tried that one! 🙂
I’ve come across one annoyance.
Now the file browser doesn’t dock to the palette well, I minimized it whilst I ran the same filter on a number of images that were open (not a batch/actions job).
Each time you close the current image, the file browser gets the focus, whereas previously the ‘next’ image would get focus allowing you to work immediately on that one. Now you have to click on each image in turn.
I agree w/that one too len. I’d like to see the browser dockable again in the next version. But other than that, the enhancements are great!
Now the file browser doesn’t dock to the palette well,
It makes a LOT more sense to open/close the FB rather than minimise. When minimised it is possible that it will continue processing (very slowly to boot) HQ previews , etc. in the background and your cursor, etc will appear VERY slow to respond. If the highlighted folder contains many uncached files that are large you could well pull CS down to a crawl.
To open/close FB simply toggle the folder/magnifier icon on the far left of the palette well. To open an image and automatically close the FB at the same time you just hold down the Alt key and double click the image. FB closes and Image opens.If the image was a raw digicam file the FB closes and Camera Raw opens.
Edit:
I should add that even when NOT processing previews, etc. a minimised FB is still sucking the life blood out of your system. This usually shows as slow cursor/tool response.
I hope the folk seeing slow tool/cursor response aren’t uisng a minimised FB 🙁
You can also assign a keyboard shortcut to toggle open/close for the file browser. Works great (and means you can open/close even with all tools and palettes closed).
Cathy,
There are already KB shortcuts for that purpose: Shift+Ctrl+O opens the FB and Ctrl+W closes it.
To open an image and automatically close the FB at the same time you just hold down the Alt key and double click the image.
Good tip, Ian, thanks!
Thanks, Ian. I didn’t realize that.
But, my effort wasn’t wasted as I prefer the special shortcur I assigned, f7 …. so much easier on the keyboard. And, to use Ctrl+w to close, you have to have focus first or you’ll close the open image.
And, to use Ctrl+w to close, you have to have focus first or you’ll close the open image.
That’s why you should always use Alt + double click the image. Image opens and FB auto closes ;-).
-I’ve assigned a keyboard shortcut to pop open/close the Navigator Palette. I’ve made the palette size very large. Now the Navigator is very, very handy. I’m starting to use the keyboard shortcut for it instead of the spacebar for when I want to scroll.
-Recoverable Layer Soloing: Alt-click on a layer to see it and only it (we’ve had this for a while). New for CS: Alt-click on it again and they’ll all return to the previous visibility (all the layers that were visible are visible again, but the ones that were invisible will still be invisible). This is very handy for editing vector shapes, as it avoids the automatic-layer-select the vector selection tools have.
-Open documents are no longer in their own little submenu (okay, this is kind of annoying for me since I got used to it in PS7, but I think I’ll come to like it again very quickly)
~Hanford
Points taken, Ian – but it still seems unnecessary for the FB to keep grabbing focus….
Len,
I appreciate your point but I think that you may not fully understand the operation of FB. Given your description I assume that you are opening and image and then returning to FB to open the next and so on. If you follow this routine then focus will always return to FB as each image is closed. After all FB is just doing what you did in reverse. However, with a touch of forethought you can avoid this problem by simply Ctrl Clicking each of the images you want to open (they need not be adjacent). Once the images are selected you simply hold down the Alt key and double click one of these images – FB auto closes and each of the images opens to the desktop. You end up with all your images open together and FB is already closed.
File Browser is extremely powerful and flexible yet folk appear to be using it like the toy that was PS7.
I’m putting together a short tutorial on the FileBrowser and hopefully that will help folk better appreciate the differences between 7 and CS. Hopefully I’ll I get time to finish it before the end of the week.
When minimised it is possible that it will continue processing (very slowly to boot) HQ previews , etc. in the background and your cursor, etc will appear VERY slow to respond. If
In my opinoin, that’s a good idea, until all images are processed. Open it then go for dinner!
To open/close FB simply toggle the folder/magnifier icon on the far left of the palette well.
Too COOL! Thank you Ian! That does make things much easier!
even when NOT processing previews, etc. a minimised FB is still sucking the life blood out of your system.
why? what’s it doing?
Recoverable Layer Soloing:
saw where you posted this in the feature request section hanford. Excellet tip. I’m going to rework a couple of my actions to include this!
I’m putting together a short tutorial on the FileBrowser and hopefully that will help folk better appreciate the differences between 7 and CS
You da man Ian! 🙂
Okay, you read about Match Zoom, and how it makes all open images the same zoom depth. Also in that menu is Match Location, which sets the focus area of the zoom the same for all open images. And a third choice is to do both. And this is pretty nifty, but it gets better.
Check out the zoom tool and the hand tool. You can set the zoom tool so all open images zoom as you zoom one of them. And you can set the hand tool so all open images pan as you pan one of them. And this means no more jumping back and forth like crazy when you try to compare two zoomed in images and you need to pan both of them again and again. Not to mention zooming in and out.
BTW, I never read about this in any of the "what’s new" articles. Did anyone see this announced?
Okay, you read about Match Zoom,
No I didn’t!!! 🙂 That’s so cool! I just found that Window> Arrange menu! Awesome!
Didn’t know about the zoom all and scroll all either! Thank you! Soooo cool!
Dave,
Don’t like the 1024×768 requirement.
What’s that mean?
I really don’t like the fact that it’s (the browser) now standalon and undockable to the palette well.
Is there at least a toggle for it in the options bar – like the text palette?
What specifically are the 2 instances of "~e5d141.tmp" running in my task manager, and can I remove that file from my system? it’s coming from the windows\prefetch directory.
On the Windows 2000/XP operating system the license manager is installed as a manually started, LocalSystem service named Macromedia Licensing Service. An additional process related to the license manager is called ~e5d141.tmp. See:
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http://www.macromedia.com/software/activation/audit/security _review.pdf>
Peace,
Tony
s there at least a toggle for it in the options bar – like the text palette?
Yes – read the whole thread – I’m getting tired of repeating myself 😉
Yes – read the whole thread – I’m getting tired of repeating myself
Yeah, I know, sorry. I open up Notepad to take notes on threads, with the intention of pasting my reply in. By the time I had finished reading, I neglected to remove the question – sorry.
Dave,
I wrote a short piece mentioning Match Zoom and Location (admittedly, only a brief paragraph) but you might find a few other things in there.
It’s at www.cameraarts.com scroll down to ‘Hot Off The Press…’
Ken Storch
Hi Dave,
"No way to import workspaces (save load like other settings)."
True, but using Explorer you can copy workspaces into CS
Greetings from Belgium
Ronald
you know ken, i read that too. (spam, right?!! LOL!) must’ve gotten distracted by a kidlet when i got to that paragraph. that’s a great overview. thanks for putting it together and reminding me now that i’ve actually got cs.
(1024×768) What’s that mean?
some of the new dialogs are so big they disapear (height-wise) off an 800×600 red’d screen (advanced view of shadow/hilight for one). 1024×768 fits everything.
I read that @stake report about a week ago. I read it really carefully againg today. All I can say is if activation is a one shot deal why does it require a license manager running at all times the app is running. They go over what the activation (in macromedia products) does, but nothing really about what’s happening with those ~*.tmp files and the LM service. Just saying that it starts and ends with the program. Maybe it’s just time to change the foil in my hat! 🙂
True, but using Explorer you can copy workspaces into CS
good idea ron! Too late for me, i already recreated them, but hopefully others read this and can use it.
Ian, I would like to learn more about how to add custom fields for the metadata in the file browser. Will you include this in your tutorial? It is a little daunting for me at this point to dive into the adobe solutions site and wade through top to bottom how to run the XMP SDK. Just to know how to do this one little thing would make the metatdata tool an order of magnitude more powerful for me, and i am sure others too.
bob
Bob,
Will you include this in your tutorial? It is a little daunting for me at this point to dive into the adobe solutions site and wade through top to bottom how to run the XMP SDK.
Sorry but I won’t be going there. I don’t have the XMP SDK.
Ian,
Given your description I assume that you are opening and image and then
returning to FB to open the next and so on.<<
No, not quite.
I selected a number of similar images from the FB, and dragged them into the working space. Minimized the FB.
Then ran USM on the first and saved, then closed. In PS7 it would have been possible to to have repeated the steps with CTRL+F, CTRL+S, CTRL+W. Now with the FB minimized, you need to shift focus from the FB to the next image each time.
Now I can appreciate the FB getting focus when ALL images have been closed, but why after EVERY close?
No big deal – just a slight annoyance, as I said….
Len,
Now I can appreciate the FB getting focus when ALL images have been closed, but why after EVERY close?
I was going to agree with you on this FB grabbing focus as Ive seen this behavior before. Then
I dont know what the hell Ive done differently today but FB behaves as expected.
I select multiple images (usually about 20 at the time) and open them all at once by double-clicking. FB stays in the background with all images stacked in front of it. I do my adjustments and actions, do save as and close with F12 key (action) and guess what. Image getting focus after close is the next image in the stack not the FB until theyre all closed.
As long as FB stays in the BACK I dont need or want to close it every time I open new batch of images. Im not experiencing any performance issues. Everything seems to run equally fast with or without FB open.
Time it takes to generate HQ preview and cache the data is another story.
Thanks, dave.
I’m writing more pieces for them, (and a few print magazines). Glad it was of some wee help.
I read certain site’s articles even if I know the topic, cuz there’s occasionally a new (to me) hint therein.
Ken Storch
Now with the FB minimized, you need to shift focus from the FB to the next image each time.
Can’t you close it instead of minimizing it? I find that little button on the option bar quite convenient. Still not as nice as having it in the palette well though.
Andrew,
I don’t know what the hell I’ve done differently today but FB behaves as
expected.<<
Following a little more investigation, it appears that it will only happen whilst the FB is building the cache. Having ‘run’ the FB on ‘My Computer’ including all sub-folders, the problem has disappeared.
Len, it seems to me that if I "ran" the FB on my entire computer, I’d probably have time to come over there and buy you a couple of beers while it’s running. <g>
This definately deserves to be in here, in case anyone doesn’t read the feature request forum. This certainly is a cool new feature! Way to go Scott!
Scott Byer – 02:12pm Nov 10, 2003 Pacific (#2 of 6)
Something similar is already in Photoshop CS. Mouse over any label for a numeric entry field, and you’ll see the scrubby slider cursor. Simply click and drag at that point. Hold down option to reduce mouse sensitivity, hold down shift to increase.
If a numeric field doesn’t have a label, hold down control while over the field itself to get the scrub cursor.
Yes, it’s still a drag, but it’s fewer clicks than before.
-Scott
I’ve been directed to this thread by my good buddy Dave Milbut. I would certainly enjoy a thread that’s all about the wonderful functions of CS being separate from the woes of installation and OS system problems. So here’s my input.
(Disclaimer–I’m in the "newbie stage" PS7 my first experience and I still had a lot to learn about that version before the upgrade to CS–so excuse me if I talk about "new stuff" that might really be "old stuff."
1. File Browser–limited experience with this before, but the exciting features that I’ve come across with this are:
a. Being able to select photos in FB and make changes such as rotation and then going to the export cache function which will save these as permanent changes.
b. Batch and automate functions within FB.
c. Meta Data function that allows you to enter "key words" or occasions for photos in FB and then search by those fields. (binoculars)
2. New Replace Color Tool that is located under the healing brush
a. Feature option setting perameters where you can dial in on features such as find edges, continguos etc.
3. Don’t know if this is new or not—(alt-right click on a layer in your document and you will be taken directly to that layer in your palette menu.) Way cool for me because I am a "multi-layered" kind of girl!
4. Layer comps which allows you to save different states of your creation and view different options by a "simple click" in the palette.
That’s all for now. Look forward to learning cool stuff here!
Patty
Edit to above: (missed the time limit to edit, I guess…)
3. Don’t know if this is new or not—(alt-right click on a layer in your document and you will be taken directly to that layer in your palette menu.) Way cool for me because I am a "multi-layered" kind of girl!
EDIT: You must have the move tool active and then do the alt-right click on image to go to that layer in palette menu.
Patty
