Color problem

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Billie_Mercer
Nov 8, 2003
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I opened an image in PS CS and worked the image. It printed flat with reduced saturation. Saved the image, opened it in PS 7 and printed it. Looked like the monitor image. I’ve checked color settings and they seem to be the same as PS 7. What do I do now?
Billie

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YrbkMgr
Nov 8, 2003
Yikes. I’ll be reading this one with interest.
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LenHewitt
Nov 8, 2003
Billie,

I’ve checked color settings and they seem to be the same as PS 7<<

Make SURE!

From PS 7’s Edot>Colour Settings d/box SAVE your settings to a colour settings file (.CSF) and then from PSCS.s Edit>Colour Settings d/box LOAD the settings you have just saved. That way you be SURE both are running the same CM settings.
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Chris_Cox
Nov 9, 2003
Either the application settings are different, or the display profile is different.

But somewhere you have set something differently.
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craig__schultz
Nov 9, 2003
I am having a similar issue, but this seems related to the way PS CS is interpreting my scanner profile. In PS v6 I get normal contrast when converting from this profile to Adobe RGB, but in PS CS I get a contrast reduced version. Color settings are identical as I saved my v6 settings and loaded them in PS CS; monitor profile was also checked and I have removed Adobe gamma from the startup folder and rebooted to make sure it was not the issue.

It seems like PS CS is not honoring the black point in the scanner profile or v6 was messing with it somehow, as my black points are now almost twice as high (i.e. 7,7,7 in v6 is now 14,14,14 in CS). In any case, the conversions differ significantly between these two versions. The best way to describe this is a haze covers the entire photo which can’t be removed to match the v6 default conversion. Saturation is also reduced by a high degree in the shadows.

Any ideas why this may be happening? I can send sample crops of these issues if necessary.
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Billie_Mercer
Nov 9, 2003
Len,
In PS 7, I went to edit>color settings an saved them, closed 7, opened CS, Edit>color settings>load the PS7 settings. Still the same image file looks the same on the monitor, but is printing differently on the same printer.
Thanks so much for your previous help but do you have any suggestions on what to check next? Billie
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LenHewitt
Nov 9, 2003
Billie,

Still the same image file looks the same on the monitor, but is printing
differently on the same printer.<<

That suggests you are using different printer settings….
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Billie_Mercer
Nov 9, 2003
Just noticed a difference. When I open the file in PS7 the file is: %(RGB*)
When I open it in CS
%(RGB/8*)
Does the /8* signify something that would make a difference in the way it prints. Just searching for answers.
If anyone can help it will be appreciated.
Billie
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Beverly_Sampson
Nov 9, 2003
I am having the same problem between ACR in Photoshop 7.01 and the built in raw converter to PS in PS.cs.

Take a look at this Fred Miranda thread which is currently active. Seems to indicate that when opening a raw file, contrast is needed either in the raw menu or in PS after converting.

Bev
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Billie_Mercer
Nov 9, 2003
I’ve learned a lot today about color management. Yes you are right, the printer space in the PS7 and CS were not the same. duh.
Thanks to Len.
Billie
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LenHewitt
Nov 9, 2003
Billie,

You’re welcome.

Does the /8* signify something <<

Just 8 bits /channel. With CS being capable of far more than 7 when working in 16-bit, the file now shows what mode it is in.
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Dirck_Van_Lieu
Nov 10, 2003
I have a similar problem although it does not involve printing. I adjusted a RAW file slightly in Nikon Capture and opened it in Photoshop CS. (Is there a way to make ACR optional?) I went through the ACR menus and Saved for Web. The resulting jpg was dull with significantly different colors. I’ll do more tonight to see if it’s a consistant problem, but I will say that I have never experienced this before.
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Chris_Cox
Nov 11, 2003
Why do people keep saying they have similar problems when they have no resemblence other than the word "color" in the description?

Dirck – it sounds like you chose Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB when you opened the image in ACR. If you chose sRGB, then you wouldn’t hve to convert the image again later to view it in other applications that don’t support color management. This is a common topic here, and there are a few dozen other topics already discussing it that would have led you to the answer quicker.

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