I got a fresh install of windows XP pro here with an also fresh install of PS CS. For some reason it takes forever to load the patterns at startup. Now, I admit I have a rather large custom pattern set which I migrated from PS 7 and don’t expect it to load blazingly fast, but the point is it does take significantly longer than it does with PS7.
It also takes ages within Photoshop CS, cause I tried starting up with an empty pattern set and then load it, but it certainly doesn’t help. And simply accessing the patterns in a layer style is very very slow too.
Furthermore, sometimes and oddly only sometimes startup would even get stuck for a while scanning for gradients, which is rather funny, cause its the small default gradient set of CS I’m using.
What reason can there be that the load times of one and the same set behave so differently in CS compared to PS 7 ?
From the Photoshop CS readme file (Yes, it is on your HDD!)
The following sections describe how to improve your system’s performance when working with Photoshop, and how to correct some common problems which may occur. For up to date information on optimizing Photoshop performance, refer to the document #318243, "Optimizing Performance in Photoshop for Windows", available online at http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/12dde.htm.
Fonts, Color Profiles and Application Startup Time
Upon startup, Photoshop must enumerate all of the fonts that will be available for the Type tools. If you have a large number of fonts installed on your system, this can cause Photoshop to take longer to start up. If you find the startup time for Photoshop to be too long, you should remove any unused fonts from your system.
Likewise, all Color Profiles installed on the system must be read. Uninstall or remove any color profiles you will not be actively using to speed up the application startup time.
Thanks for your suggestion LenHewitt, but the problem I describe has very little to do with these general solutions. as I said, in ps7 the exact settings with the exact pattern set loading is ten times faster. I don’t have plenty of colour profiles, neither lots of fonts and when you watch the startup screen of ps , you can see very clearly where its most busy. everything loads very fast, except for patterns and sometimes gradients. and again.. its the standard default gradient set and although my pattern set is indeed not too small, it neither cause ps7 to have such a long startup, nor is there any trouble accessing it inside photoshop7.
And while of course there might be fundamental differences between PS7 and CS, I really see no reason why one and the same set pf patterns, should bring down CS to a crawl but be quick and smooth in PS7. Oh and currently I don’t even have any plugins except for the adobe default ones installed and no optional plugin folder defined. I am very familiar with my system, PS and all ways of optimization, but this is really a different case and I have the strong feeling there is some kind of "bug" in CS.
What knd of system is it? We haven’t seen a general serious slowdown, but yous is definitely an interesting issue and I want to find out more about it.
Windows XP pro with sp1 and all other updates. Asus A7n8x Deluxe ( revision 2.0 ) Nforce2 chipset with latest drivers. Athlon XP 2800 + ( barton) I gigabyte of Ram ( Corsair 400mhz) Ati Radeon 9700 pro ( catalyst 3.9 drivers) with dual monitor setup ( one 22′ Mitsubishi and one Hitachi 19′) Several harddisks, the system disk is a Seagate Barracuda SATA disk, which shouldn’t make a difference, since I before this fresh install I had it all on an ATA disk with the same behaviour. I might add, that I have no spyware whatsoever running, currently not even a firewall or anti vir monitoring in the background. Really a very clean system that runs everything smooth otherwise. No crashes no instabillities.. all fine, except for this. Of course I also tried deleting the pref file of Photoshop and all other usual suspects 🙂
oh… and I must say, that apart from this issue I even have the subjective feeling of CS being a tad snappier than PS7. Furthermore the often blamed filebrowser is very responsive and often can even be left open without causing any problems or slowdowns.
I think I found one major source of slow-down on loading CS.
CS remembers the last directory you browsed (Thank you, Adobe that’s a real convenience). On start-up, Adobe apparently looks at that drive and starts enumerating files behind the scenes.
But if that directory is a very large one (in my case I have a very large raid array that’s seen as a read-only drive) it can make the startup hugely slower.
Try, just before you close Photoshop, browsing a very small directory. That’s what I’ve taken to doing and it has helped. On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:30:48 -0800, wrote:
I got a fresh install of windows XP pro here with an also fresh install of PS CS. For some reason it takes forever to load the patterns at startup. Now, I admit I have a rather large custom pattern set which I migrated from PS 7 and don’t expect it to load blazingly fast, but the point is it does take significantly longer than it does with PS7. It also takes ages within Photoshop CS, cause I tried starting up with an empty pattern set and then load it, but it certainly doesn’t help. And simply accessing the patterns in a layer style is very very slow too. Furthermore, sometimes and oddly only sometimes startup would even get stuck for a while scanning for gradients, which is rather funny, cause its the small default gradient set of CS I’m using.
What reason can there be that the load times of one and the same set behave so differently in CS compared to PS 7 ?
Well, it is 70 mb and as I said, I don’t expect lightspeed when loading it, but it is really very very much slower in CS than in PS7. at startup and in direct access within CS. and expept for sometimes gradients ( very randomly) it is the only thing taking that long on the startup load screen.
yes Chris, I am very sure. 100%. I watched the startup screen countless times, choking at the patterns. Besides, if I want to scroll through that pattern set, either in the preset manager , or in the layer style menu it also takes forever to display it. In Ps7 I can just smoothly and quickly scroll through the various patterns in there. and large or small thumbs doesn’t make a real difference.
Chris I just tested to be more than very sure. resetting the patterns to the default ones, makes CS load almost faster than wordpad 🙂 so no doubt, there is an issue with large pattern sets or at least with mine.
thanks for caring, the use of a custom pattern set is really crucial for my work.
Chris, I made several tests with the pattern settings now and it gets even more odd. While questioning what inside my custom pattern set could cause a problem, I checked the names of each tile and found that many of them had extensions, like . psd, .tiff and so on. that certainly just originates from the initial picture where the pattern was defined. so I cleaned all those extensions out, thinking that this could cause hiccups. Interestingly, now its not getting stuck so long at "patterns" in the loading screen, but on reading color books. BUT, it seems it is still the pattern set, because again, when I reset it to the default set in the preset manager, there is no long reading color books whatsoever and CS loads amazingly fast. Accessing my patterns directly inside CS is also still a painfully slow process. btw, it feels much like layer styles did after the first release of PS7, which also took a long long time to initialize.
Another thing I tested was, loading all the adobe pattern sets together in the preset manager and saving it as one big set. that does not cause any slowdown. just as fast as there would be only the little default set. So, I suspect CS might have a problem when there are tiles larger than 256×256 in the set, cause in mine there are some of 512×512 size. If you test I think its best to create your own pattern tiles.
That’s it.. I tested all I could so far on my side.
I must admit its same with me. Its much slower during loading, but when i was creating my Bramka SMS Era Idea Plus <http://www.logosik.pl/> site, it was much faster then 7.0! So conclusion is simple… Loading is slower, but working much faster:)
percentage is 75% or 50%. I tried both settings. 195 tiles in the pattern set. and as I said, same pattern, same pc, same memory allocated, ps7 does the job quick. another example of the lag is, not only scrolling through the patterns, but for example when I want to switch from large to small thumbnails, or just small list, it takes very long until its visible.
can there be something with a windows xp service disabled or enabled? I just ask since CS also still has that bug where it wouldn’t show the lighting styles, cause some xp service ( forgot which right now) is off.
One more suggestion ; since I initially have created that pattern.pat set in ps7, can it be that ps7 does anything different there and CS has problems digesting the info PS7 might have stored in there? btw, loading time at startup is pretty much exactly 45 seconds. the startup loading time bothers me much less than the slow acces inside Ps CS though. That is what really affects workflow.
It’s getting worse and worse now. Meanwhile CS takes 1 Minute and 18 seconds to load at startup, with my custom pattern set. Still no additional plugins installed. De- and reinstalled CS also didn’t solve it. Call me crazy, but it seem CS gets slower with every time I use it. BTW, I noticed that under processes in XP there are 2 instances of the same photoshop temp file. Oddly yesterday there were also tmp files created in one of my working folders.
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