The only winning move is not to play.
Paranoia is not only difficult to spell but difficult to show it is based on fact. Usually a look at the perspective – Adobe is not SMERSH ready to dominate to the world, they are a software company, producing something a lot of people want to use because they can make money out of it too. Has anyone… at all… experienced an invasion of their privacy from Adobe, the dissabling of a CD or anything remotely similar? Don’t get me wrong, I would not be pleased if it happened to me, but I think Adobe have bigger fish to fry to be bothered with my little computer. In the mean time CS works, does things I could not do before (text on path is interesting) and worth the money.
It is a bit like speeding cameras, if you are not speeding they won’t get you. John
It is a bit like speeding cameras, if you are not speeding they won’t get you.
It is also sort of a thing that Americans in particular are uncomfortable with. Privacy is important to some people. It is sort of like saying the police should be able to walk through your house at any time for any reason, after all, if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothig to be worried about.
but I think Adobe have bigger fish to fry to be bothered with my little computer.
Another company seized 95% of the market… one computer at a time.
I think you’re confusing SafeDisc with SafeCast – they’re two different products. Adobe is not installing "spyware", nor have we implemented anything that should be able to disable your CD drive.
Adobe is not installing "spyware", nor have we implemented anything that should be able to disable your CD drive.
So, no restrictions on our rights to use the software, then. That’s good news.
Ah, aren’t consipracies fun?
That article blends the features of different products (without understanding them or how they work), only one of which is used as part of Photoshop’s activation scheme – and the part Photoshop uses isn’t copy protection and doesn’t do anything to disable hardware in any way.
So, I’m sorry if you’re buying to anti-activation paranoia enough to stop you from using the best version of Photoshop yet, but that is your choice and I respect that.
-Scott
Sorry, Stephanie, but you are blowing smoke on this one. SafeCast is the spyware Adobe has as part of "Adobelmsvc Installer.dll", and IS considered spyware, as very visibly evidenced by the TurboTax fiasco.
The "key benefit" of SafeCast that "Thwarts use of CD-recordable drives, re-mastering by professional pirates, and unauthorized Internet downloads" is Macrovision’s OWN words about its product that Adobe has included with its CS product line. Adobe implemented this little nasty in every disc containing that .dll, and can implement it’s activation from the home office at its choosing. How would YOU describe "twarting the use of a CD-recordable drive" in other terms than "disabling"???
Incidentally, uninstalling Photoshop CS will NOT uninstall SafeCast Spyware. This is no "conspiracy," this is well documented spyware.
wrote:
It is a bit like speeding cameras, if you are not speeding they won’t get you.
It is also sort of a thing that Americans in particular are uncomfortable with. Privacy is important to some people. It is sort of like saying the police should be able to walk through your house at any time for any reason, after all, if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothig to be worried about.
I disagree with the analogy, if only in regards to the inclusion of the concept of privacy. When you are driving on a public road you are not in private, and cannot expect privacy laws to apply.
I’m not a fan of speed cameras (since I’m not a proponent of speed limits, at least not on the highways, but that’s another story); however, I am firmly in favor of red light cameras – what is it with people these days just running red lights every chance they get?
Lots of nasties in these new releases. The biggest thing I’m staying away from are the new bundles… The elimination of individual licenses was a bad move.
Hey Brian…
With a user name like that, I’d figure you’d be considerate enough to turn off the Auto-Quote feature of your newsreader when replying here. Some folks haven’t enabled stealth (maybe they don’t know how… regardless of that….) for their profile addresses, and would probably prefer their email addresses not be posted in an open forum.
Individual licenses were not eliminated. You can upgrade or purchase any application on its own.
Bob
Ah, there’s the Ol’ Whozit I loathe. Old times. OW, when Steph or Scott tell you something in this thread, believe it. You should click their names and check their e-mailadresses. Tell you what, I’ll save you the click. Both end in @adobe.com. If you can prove they are wrong, fine but don’t come in here with wacky articles trying to dig up conspiracies where there are none.
Ol’,
The information your quoting is a mishmash covering 2 products – SafeDisc is the copy protection tool, SafeCast is the license management (activation) tool. If you don’t want to take my word on it, go look at the Macrovision website.
Photoshop does not SafeDisc, nor any other software that should affect your CD drive.
While Intuit had problems with their implementation of SafeCast, the problems weren’t due to "spyware". SafeCast isn’t spyware, it doesn’t collect information and phone home with updates (this is what real spyware does). If you are concerend about spyware on your system, run a utlity to check for it. I do and although many items show up weekly, SafeCast is never listed.
Is it not possible to install PSCS on a machine that’s NOT connected to the internet?
Rob
Rob
Sure you can. All you have to do is use the phone activation option.
Is it not possible to install PSCS on a machine that’s NOT connected to the internet?
rob, yes it is possible. the only thing different you’ll have to do is activate over the phone. you call adobe, read them a code the PS supplies, they read you a code back which you then type in and you’re done. no internet connection required.
hth, dave
Stuart…I think Ol’ Whozit is just trying to scare us…she never gets enough Halloween. Maybe somebody will give her a trick (or a treat).
…when Steph or Scott tell you something in this thread, believe it. You should click their names and check their e-mailadresses.
They are doing their jobs. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to take that amount of heat just for the fun of it.
Folks this is really serious. Adobe teamed up with Apple and are preparing hostile takeover of PC market (remember no activation on MAC?).
Uninstall all Adobe applications immediately and format your Hard Drives!
At midnight all activations will explode. You will be forced to call Adobe and reactivate. At that time you will be informed that EULA has been changed and you will have to pay $100/hour to use the software (subject to increase without notice). You will also be advised that Apple offers much better deal.
Coincidentally Bill Gates has just been placed under arrest for (allegedly) growing apples in his back yard and turning them into sour grapes. Bail was set at $100 (in cash), which means he will spend some time in jail unable to save us all.
There you have it. Thank you Ol Vigilantes for exposing this incredible plot.
Comedy isn’t pretty.
remember no activation on MAC?
I’m waiting for the next Adobe upgrades. If they don’t treat Mac users like thieves, too, I’ll be there.
At that time you will be informed that EULA has been changed
See that’s where you’re wrong. They don’t have to tell you. It’s in the EULA. 😉
The simplest way to avoid being "spyed on", if you still want to use CS, is to disable you ‘net connection while using PS CS. After I activated it on my laptop, I use it frequently while not connected to the net. The service may run, but it’s not sending anything anywhere. I have noticed that the service does not run when you are not using CS.
Yes, I know that’s an inconvenience that some folks are unwilling to resort to, I’m just putting it out there for those that might be interested.
Personally, I’m not worried about it. Could it affect me? Yea, I tweak my machine fairly often. New drive here, RAM update there, occasional slick of the HD for a fresh install. I like my machine running smooth, and sometimes to maintain that you have to start from scratch. If for some reason I can’t activate and use PS CS because Adobe won’t let me, I’ll be the first to tell you. I just don’t foresee it happening. I believe they are going to execute a reasonable policy, and I don’t believe they really care enough to spend massive amounts of time and effort to explore my system to spy on me. That’s just what I think. Obviously YMMV.
VES
So, the CD disabling is (of course) erroneous.
Stephanie is the only one out there reporting results with Spyware snuffing utilites. Results: nothing.
Does a single person here report programs that would be linked to Photoshop recognized as spyware by a dedicated spyware searching/removal program?
Does someone here report suspiscious network activities liked to Photoshop?
Shouldn’t more FACTS be needed before making accusations?
I find it odd that some Windows XP users are complaining about Photoshop activation… didn’t they need to activate XP? Would they prefer a dongle, maybe?
Would they prefer a dongle, maybe?
for the os, no. for photoshop, yes. make mine usb please. 🙂
I think some folks would rather not have their conspiracy theories intertwined with those little "fact" thingies.
VES
I would agree with most that the dongle option would have probably been more effective for their goal, though not fullproof. It is really a moot point, because they did not elect to use a dongle system, so wishing for it is for naught. However, my own personal taste is, no thank you for the dongle. I have so much stuff already plugged into my machine that unplugging something to plug in the dongle when I want to run PS CS would be inconvenient for me. Yes, a minor inconvenience, but inconvenient none the less. This system is "invisible" to me. Ultimately, what my individual preference may be, just like any one elses, doesn’t matter if they choose a different option. I fully support the notion that if a person does not like the product, or the service, they should elect not to buy it and show Adobe what it means to their pocketbook. Likewise, I don’t mean for that to infer for someone to just use a pirate copy either.
If you use it, pay for it. If you don’t pay for it, don’t use it.
vES
I disagree with the analogy, if only in regards to the inclusion of the concept of privacy. When you are driving on a public road you are not in private, and cannot expect privacy laws to apply.
We have a sort of dichotomy in the way certain laws are enforced. If one is driving down the street, a police officer is not allowed to just stop and search your personal effects. I believe there is still a constitutional amendment addressing illegal searches and seizures, despite the Patriot Act!
Using a hardware dongle is an overly expensive solution that can be cracked with an auxillary software program that pretends to be the hardware dongle.
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Hey Brian…
With a user name like that, I’d figure you’d be considerate enough to turn off the Auto-Quote feature of your newsreader when replying here. Some folks haven’t enabled stealth (maybe they don’t know how… regardless of that….) for their profile addresses, and would probably prefer their email addresses not be posted in an open forum.
WHat the hell are you talking about? I didn’t post anything that viol8tion hadn’t posted themselves already. Not to mention that
[username]@adobeforums.com shows up for everyone, and is not thir real
email address.
Brian
wrote:
We have a sort of dichotomy in the way certain laws are enforced. If one is driving down the street, a police officer is not allowed to just stop and search your personal effects. I believe there is still a constitutional amendment addressing illegal searches and seizures, despite the Patriot Act!
Absolutely (and the very paranoia-propelled, unconstitutional Patriot Act needs to be abolished at all costs) but to me a camera to catch illegal red-light-runners is not a search and seizure – if an officer observes you running the light they can ticket you for it; I see no reason why they can’t ticket you if they have an image of you doing it.
I agree with many people’s objections to an automated, camera-driven "Big Brother"-type situation, but in the interest of genuine public safety I see the benefits, too.
Oh well… none of this has anything to do with Photoshop! 8^)
Brian
Brian,
This is essentially a WEB based forum that happens to mirrored to an NNTP server.
You will annoy the hell out of web users if you keep autoquoting their messages back in your replies – it isn’t necessary and just wastes bandwidth.
Not to mention that [username]@adobeforums.com shows up for everyone, and
is not thir real
email address.<<
Their real e-mail address CAN show up in the quote if they haven’t set their preferences correctly from web view.
Now, as a request from a Forum Host, Please turn of your NR Autoquote feature when posting here.
Now, as a request from a Forum Host, Please turn of your NR Autoquote feature when posting here.
So users of these forums are not supposed to include relevant quotes when replying to threads? How is that in any way useful in allowing readers to keep straight what the reply is replying to?
Brian
So users of these forums are not supposed to include relevant quotes when replying to threads? How is that in any way useful in allowing readers to keep straight what the reply is replying to?
If you would pay attention to:
#1 – what was specifically addressed.. posting user emails, etc #2 – the way that the regular users SELECTIVELY quote the PERTINENT info rather than including 100’s of previous posts in every response,
then you would not even be asking that question… use some common sense ad have a little courtesy to abide by the rules of the community.
If you would pay attention to:
#1 – what was specifically addressed.. posting user emails, etc
So far I haven’t posted anyone’s email address at all – your username as I see it is , and if I’m quoting a previous post
I normally include the name (not the email address) of the author I’m quoting. Standard procedure for any forum.
Not that this is your actual email address, but if you want your username to appear as something different than
then change it.
#2 – the way that the regular users SELECTIVELY quote the PERTINENT info rather than including 100’s of previous posts in every response,
Which I have NEVER EVER done – I’ve already apologized for accidentally over-quoting on a few posts made in haste, but those who include the entire existing thread in their replies annoy me just as much as they do you.
Brian
Might as well get used to it, Brian. Adobeforums.com is the only one I frequent that gets so weird about this stuff, and a lot of times I can’t follow along with who is talking to who but it’s their playground. That can’t make me "turn off autoquote" but I usually quote back just enough of the post that is relevant or try to address the person by name if I delete all of the quote (like this post)
Pierre Courtejoie, people who bought Win XP on a new computer probably didn’t have to activate it.
BTW, for those who aren’t afraid of somebody who’s extrapolating from current industry trends, check this:
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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20031120.html>
Target is Microsoft, but other software companies could have similar things in mind for the future.
Bob,
Maybe I wasn’t clear but the fact is if you purchase the suite you do not have a Photoshop license. I quote from the CS FAQ:
"Q: If I order the Adobe Creative Suite will I have to upgrade to 2.0 in the future, or will I be able to upgrade to any of the individual components?
A: Customers who license the Adobe Creative Suite will have an upgrade path to future releases of the Creative Suite, but not from the suite to stand alone products. However, if you own previous versions of Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, GoLive, or Acrobat 6.0 as stand-alone products, you will be able to upgrade those point products individually, even if you order the Adobe Creative Suite."
I was just saying that these kinds of policies worry me more than "spyware." This goes beyond making sure that I’m follow the existing rules. It changes the game. I like being able upgrade at my discretion. I think that any long time user of Adobe products will agree that some upgrades are more important/valuable than others.
Sorry for being vague.
Dale
It changes the game.
How can you say that? Read it again. If you own the individual apps you can upgrade just those apps in the future or you can upgrade the suite.
Please tell me how that changes the game.
Bob
Hmmm…. I havn’t noticed it yet. Lately i was preparing my Kolorowe Tapety MMS <
http://www.logosik.pl/> site and i had no problems… I speak about CS version of course…. One thing i cant stand… the very begining when it loads and there’s a banner sized advert… i hate it:(
Brian…
Do you go to a party at the house of someone you’ve just met and tell them how to serve refreshments? Do you refuse to use a coaster after they’ve politley asked you to please do so? Do you complain that their choice of furnishing sucks? Of course you don’t, if you’ve got any sort of social skills at all.
I was just trying to clue you up on how the natives prefer things here at their party. Good social skills would predicate that you gamely play along. I’ve been visiting these Forums for the better part of 6 years, and the way things are done here have been pretty breezey and easy for most of us.
If you want to play by your own rules, fine, expect to experience a bit of shunning. Some worry about it more than others. Only you can decide on the comfort level you want to establish for yourself.
Rick wrote:
Adobeforums.com is the only one I
frequent that gets so weird about this stuff
Yeah, no kidding! It’s ridiculous, not to mention it never was an issue until yesterday…
Brian
Phosphor (note how I took out your "email address" so no one would cry about it?) wrote:
Do you go to a party at the house of someone you’ve just met and tell them how to serve refreshments? Do you refuse to use a coaster after they’ve politley asked you to please do so? Do you complain that their choice of furnishing sucks? Of course you don’t, if you’ve got any sort of social skills at all.
Which I do, and I do none of the above. Hell, I’m not even sure to what you’re specifically referring to since you didn’t include a quote from any particular post of mine (which is customary to do, BTW, no matter what you all may think – threads are impossible to follow otherwise.)
I was just trying to clue you up on how the natives prefer things here at their party.
"Their party?" The forums are Adobe’s, for the benefit of all (those who read via the web, and those who read via Usenet). Nothing I’ve done today or in the past is in anyway harming that, and the vast majority of my posts have been an attempt to assist the original poster.
If you (or anyone else) don’t like my posts then don’t read them, it’s really not that difficult (if you’re using a newsreader they all have killfiles; plonk me).
If you want to play by your own rules, fine, expect to experience a bit of shunning.
Today must be pick on Brian day… I really don’t understand what all this fuss is about… I’m not looking for a fight, only to participate. You guys are making a monsterous mountain out of nothing at all (not to mention wasting your precious bandwidth in the process).
Once again, for those who haven’t read it yet or ignored it earlier:
1.) I already apologized for a few (and I stress, a FEW) posts where I didn’t edit my quotes properly. I typically edit my quotes (as I mentioned before, excessive quoting annoys me, too, but just like all of you I am not free from error) but I’m not going to leave them out entirely – that’s just stupid.
2.) "[username]@adobeforums.com" is no one’s real email address. I’m sorry if I included that in any of my quotes (again, it is customary when you include a quote to also include the author of the quote) and I’ll try to remember to edit them out in the future just in case someone’s real email address slips through (although, to be honest, it is their responsibility to set their preferences properly, not mine).
Brian
My, my, Brian, you are an absolute joy. If you need any special considerations, the concierge in the lobby will be happy to assist you.
Enjoy your stay.
Phosphor wrote:
My, my, Brian, you are an absolute joy.
Again, what are you referring to? I can’t tell…
Obstinance becomes you, Brian.
End communiqué.
"people who bought Win XP on a new computer probably didn’t have to activate it."
Yes you do John. I’ve setup two laptops within the past few months and both had to be activated as part of the initial startup process. I didn’t have to install XP as that was already done but I did have to activate.
"This goes beyond making sure that I’m follow the existing rules. It changes the game. I like being able upgrade at my discretion. I think that any long time user of Adobe products will agree that some upgrades are more important/valuable than others."
Dale, Adobe offers the Creative Suite at a lower price than any of the individual components sold separately. Part of this deal is your lock-in to the suite as a whole. Not to mention that the Suite now comes with a single serial number that works with all applications so it’s not possible to upgrade individual apps. You can still purchase and upgrade individual apps, you just can’t get the great deal with the Suite then turn around and pick and choose what you want to upgrade later on. It’s a choice and you have to weigh your options carefully, that’s life and it is most certainly not unfair.
I’ve setup two laptops within the past few months and both had to be activated as part of the initial startup process.
Interesting. Who’s laptops were they?
Dell computers come preactivated and with a full XP install CD. Even if you reinstall to a formatted drive you don’t have to activate it.
Bob
Corporate license versions of XP, like Adobe, do not have the activation feature. Perhaps the laptops you installed were corporate?
Robert,
One was an HP and the other a Compaq. Yes, I know they are the same company.
Dell machines do not need activation.
Bob
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:36:15 -0800,
wrote:
Dell machines do not need activation.
Actually they do, only, it’s done by Dell already.
—
Dierk
Brian,
which is customary to do, BTW, …- threads are impossible to follow
otherwise<<
Not in Web-based forums by those using web view it isn’t, and that applies to over 90% of the users of these forums.
Get over it and move on ….
I did not have to activate my Dell Notebook that I bought over the summer, nor did I have to activate my brother in law or my parents Dell desktops that they bought over the past 2 months. They were loaded with XP Pro (mine), and standard XP for the 2 desktops.
Cheers,
Rose
Dude I love my Dell, Dude I want another Dell
They would if you put retail XP on them, it’s the Dell OEM XP software that doesn’t need activation, and you can’t use it on non-Dell machines
Dell machines do not need activation.
Rick,
Correct. But I was referring to the software shipped with the computer.
BTW, while it’s a violation of the license, you can actually install and activate XP using the Dell CDs on other PCs.
Bob
I didn’t know that changed, it used to be tied to Dell BIOS.
BTW, while it’s a violation of the license, you can actually install and activate XP using the Dell CDs on other PCs.
Rick Moore wrote:
I didn’t know that changed, it used to be tied to Dell BIOS.
It still is, but only for the purpose of installing without the CD key and activation. BTW, I should have noted that this is according to several posts on assorted newsgroups. I’ve never tried it myself, because a)it’s a license violation and b)I just never needed to.
Bob
LenHewitt wrote:
Not in Web-based forums by those using web view it isn’t, and that applies to over 90% of the users of these forums.
Bull… if you reply to a post that was way at the top of the page (or even on a previous page) how does anyone possibly have any idea what you’re referring to unless you include relevant quotes?
But as I said yesterday this has gotten totally out of hand for essentially nothing… I will continue to include relevant quotes (trimming appropriately to be as brief as possible) and if anyone doesn’t like it just skip my posts.
Brian
Brian, for someone related to NoSpam you sure spread a lot of garbage.
Brian,
It’s all good. Your last post is fine. You reference Len and the quote/question you were answering. All len was saying is that you shouldn’t autoquote the entire message. You stopped doing that a long time ago and the matter should have been dropped then. I think it is safe to say that this is no longer an issue and we can all just move on and forget about it.
Photo Help
I agree, Brian, apologised for what appeared to be a minor problem and has then been maligned in post after post, why not give the man a chance, perhaps there is something about photoshop that he can teach us.
John
why not give the man a chance
He’s a witch! Burn him! Burn him! He turned me into a newt! Well, I got better.
Dave is right burn him.
If JohnSW want to learn from him okay, but I don’t, it’s a matter of going on and on about the same thing…..nowhere was PS a part of the play, it is about egos.
Dave is right burn him.
nope. I was mistaken. (I got better.) If brian want’s to learn and share what he’s got, i’m all ears. welcome to the forum brian. This has officially been your trial by fire. You may now remove your flame retardant suit. 🙂
"In my walks, every man I meet is my superior in some way, and in that I learn from him." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
edit: besides, everyone knows witches float! tie a rock to him and throw him in the lake to prove he’s not a witch! <g>
Dave is right burn him.
Which brand of CD writer does he fit into? I don’t know if any of mine are big enough.
"I was just trying to clue you up on how the natives prefer things here at their party. Good social skills would predicate that you gamely play along."
Unless of course it’s you, eh, Phosphor?
Check out this link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=phosphor+real+name&hl= en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1& amp;safe=off&selm=1de955ab.8%40WebX.la2eafNXanI&rnum =3 wrote in message
Brian…
Do you go to a party at the house of someone you’ve just met and tell them
how to serve refreshments? Do you refuse to use a coaster after they’ve politley asked you to please do so? Do you complain that their choice of furnishing sucks? Of course you don’t, if you’ve got any sort of social skills at all.
I was just trying to clue you up on how the natives prefer things here at
their party. Good social skills would predicate that you gamely play along. I’ve been visiting these Forums for the better part of 6 years, and the way things are done here have been pretty breezey and easy for most of us.
If you want to play by your own rules, fine, expect to experience a bit of
shunning. Some worry about it more than others. Only you can decide on the comfort level you want to establish for yourself.
please turn off auto quote OC. it annoys the natives. not to mention that your excessively long link breaks the margins on the 90% of us who use browsers.
do you have anything relevant or remotely photoshop related to add or are you just here to bash the people who come here every day to help people? (Bob and Phosphor) judging from your posting history i’d say the latter.
old cop "CS activation blues" 11/21/03 8:08pm </cgi-bin/webx?14/37>
old cop "Very Unhappy with Adobe Photoshop CS" 11/21/03 8:19pm </cgi-bin/webx?14/30>
this topic smells like lounge fodder. send it there so it can get the treatment it deserves! 🙂
Old cop?
Methinks private dick is a better name.
Link from edited post:
Check
this link out < groups.google.com/groups?q=phosphor+real+name&hl=en& lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&saf e=off&selm=1de955ab.8%40WebX.la2eafNXanI&rnum=3 >
Len,
that link comes back as an error ….
johnkissane3 wrote:
nowhere was PS a part of the
play, it is about egos.
It had nothing to do with ego, merely defending against ridiculous and non-sensical accusations.
Brian
Photo_Help,
I don’t even know why Len posted it.<<
Normally I would have corrected the link in the poster’s message to stop it breaking the page margins. However, because it was posted from a NewsReader, that was not possible (NNTP originated posts cannot be edited using HTML). The only option was therefore to delete the link. However, Hosts do not randomly delete posters’ content. We need to have a pretty good reason for doing so, and so I re-posted it within its HTML ‘wrapper’ just so it didn’t break the page margins
(NNTP originated posts cannot be edited using HTML).
I edit my NNTP originated posts all the time with the HTML edit.
I edit my NNTP originated posts all the time with the HTML edit.
I think phosphor mentioned something special about the main posts that start the threads.
Viol8ion,
I edit my NNTP originated posts all the time with the HTML edit<<
Not 8 hours after posting you don’t!
You will be able to make immediate text edits, but you cannot add HTML formatting to a posting created via the Newsreader.
Len
Not 8 hours after posting you don’t!
Oh, well, now you set a time limit on it! :~p
"2.) "[username]@adobeforums.com" is no one’s real email address. I’m sorry if I included that in any of my quotes (again, it is customary when you include a quote to also include the author of the quote) and I’ll try to remember to edit them out in the future just in case someone’s real email address slips through (although, to be honest, it is their responsibility to set their preferences properly, not mine)."
Brian,
Not meaning to beat a dead horse with this one but I think you arent understanding what the problem is. The @adobeforums.com thing is a feature that has to be manually set for the account. If someone doesnt go out and set it, when you auto-quote, it will post the email address that they registered to the forum with
Now, it could be argued that the address isnt really private since the person didnt have it totally hidden to begin with but I think the point that others were trying to make is that there are some people who dont intend to be giving out their full address but who dont realize that it isnt totally hidden and when you do that, it exposes their email address if they havent figured out how to hide it
Personally, Ive got no beef with you or your posts but I could sort of see where the message wasnt getting across. 🙂
E._Segen wrote:
Not meaning to beat a dead horse with this one
Then don’t… no one else has bothered with this one in quite a while.
Brian
