Poor Resolution of Stills in Premiere

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Tom_Koel
Dec 4, 2003
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I’m using PS 7 and Premiere 6.5. I get a high resolution scan from film negatives to tif format files, do little or no doctoring in PS, conform the prints to the Premiere aspect ratio, and hope to see them displayed in Premiere video at the excellent resolution seen in PS.
However, it never happens. I have tried conforming the canvas and image sizes, and trying the files in jpg, targa, and psd format. Some are better than others, but none are very good.
Why should the video itself (or even the comparatively low quality still taken onto the memory stick), taken with much less detailed capturing be sharper and clearer than my film to tiff file photos from PS?
I’m a videographer and a photographer. This is driving me crazy!

I know there’s a fix, somewhere.
Thanks,

Tom Koel

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PH
Photo_Help
Dec 4, 2003
Tom,

You should ask this question in the Premiere Forum.

Maybe your resolution is too high? Save the images at the same resolution they will be used at in premiere. Keep in mind that if you don’t do this in Photoshop Premier will have to resample the image and it will take longer to process and the quality will most likely be lower.

Also make sure you are saving as RBG and not CYMK.
DM
dave_milbut
Dec 6, 2003
Tom, IIRC your premire project must be in DV (high res avi) format.

PH do you recall a while back in a similar thread saying that you had luck getting a slideshow to run using Kodak Photo CD’s program? You were on forum hiatis when I had a topic on this. Do you have that kodak pic viewer exe? (dmilbut at optonline dot net)

thanks, dave
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video_bill
Dec 6, 2003
I tried the same thing – high resolution in hopes of better video quality. But, alas, Premiere cannot handle it, especially the large files. The most recent advice I received was to make all the files .tga and to convert to 720 x 480 at 72 or 100 dpi, check "Maintain aspect ratio" and go from there. However, you will likely find that the stills may become distorted when transitions (video with pixel aspect ratio of 0.9) are added between the stills. I’ve had a devil of a time trying to work with stills, change the transitions, and add .avi video. I’m looking for answers now on this and other forums, but I’m finding the way the still images are imported as well as what you do to them on the timeline affect the final product. Just today I played back a timeline of stills (playback was okay) and then exported to .avi only to find the beginning of the video had changes in the pixel aspect ratio (stills converted to 0.9). If I come up with more answers, I’ll get back to you.
PH
Photo_Help
Dec 6, 2003
Dave,

I used the Kodak viewer to make a hybrid VCD. I made a VCD Picture Disk with JPGS and also burned the Kodak viewer (The same one you get if you order a photo CD when you get your pictures developed) on the cd. That way it can be viewed on a computer as well as in a standard DVD player. The great part is that both the DVD player and the picture viewer use the same standard JPG files.

I don’t have access to the viewer right now but I will get it for you.

What are you wanting to do exactly?
DM
dave_milbut
Dec 7, 2003
just make a VCD slide show the easy way that will play on my VCD capable DVD player. I used premire 6 to get it done the last time, but WHEW what a learning curve. Thanks, I appreciate it.

I tried the same thing – high resolution in hopes of better video quality. But, alas, Premiere cannot handle it, especially the large files.

No I didn’t mean that. I meant the premire project needs to be hight quality avi… damn, i haven’t reloaded premire since I upgraded my system about 3 or 4 months ago or I’d look up exactly what the setting’s called. You set it when you’re initializing the premire project and you choose the output type. There are a couple of different kinds of avi output… select the highest one and you’ll get decent (not fantastic, but not too shabby) results.
PH
Photo_Help
Dec 7, 2003
Dave,

If you have Nero just open it up.

Start with the VCD option.

Drag JPGs over in the same way you would MPG movie clips.

Record

Now when you play it in the DVD player it will advance to the next picture each time you press the track forward or back (Same button you would use to navigate chapters on a DVD movie).
DM
dave_milbut
Dec 7, 2003
Really? GTFOH! (get the… outta here!) 🙂 I’m gonna try first thing tomorrow! Thanks! Does it handle folders or do they all need to be in the cd root? Does it require CD-R only or are CD-RW’s ok?

That actually solves 2 problems. With premire, slideshows go on as mpeg2 (IIRC) so you could only get about 40 on disk (because of multiple copies of each image, depending on the time you want each image up.) I also was going to have to back all my photos to cd, if I can make vcd’s outta the full res files, i’m in like flinn!
PH
Photo_Help
Dec 7, 2003
Dave,

Does it handle folders or do they all need to be in the cd root?

They all need to be in the same folder. You can specify the location of the folder in the settings, the default is "Pictures". You just drag them into the main authoring window and it will put them into the folder for you. Don’t make the folder and add the images manually or it will just be a data CD. There is a Pause setting on the tracks with a default of "Infinite". If you set a duration it looks like it will auto Advance every X seconds, but I haven’t tried it.

Does it require CD-R only or are CD-RW’s ok?

As long as the media is compatible with your DVD player.

I can make vcd’s outta the full res files, i’m in like flinn!

Yes. Do some testing though I don’t know if there are file size restrictions for DVD players. I believe the ones I used were about 4×6 @ 300 PPI. For best results the images should of course be as close to video resolution as possible but higher resolution images look just fine IMHO.
DM
dave_milbut
Dec 7, 2003
ok. thanks. i’ll give it a whirl and post my results. btw, most of the images from my olympus 3020zoom are 2048×1536 as it defaults to a setting just under it’s highest res and I usually use that.
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amie_park
Dec 9, 2003
Hi Tom,

I think this document on working with non-square pixels may help. It’s at: <http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/2d08a.htm>

Also, video resolution is at 72 which isn’t very high so having files saved with a higher resolution is a waste of space if video is the only intended output.

I hope this helps!
PH
Photo_Help
Dec 9, 2003
amie,

Also, video resolution is at 72…

No it isn’t. Why would video have a print resolution?

Video is gauged by pixel dimensions like 720 x 480, Not PPI.
BO
Burton_Ogden
Dec 9, 2003
Photo Help,

Why would video have a print resolution? Video is gauged by pixel dimensions like 720 x 480, Not PPI.

I agree. And if you did compute the pixels per inch from a 720×480 frame on one of those big screen TVs, you would get a disappointingly low figure. What’s holding up HDTV? We need more pixels in our video.

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