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Anders_Wahlstrom
Dec 11, 2003
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Hi folks
I just started playing around with Photoshop and I have a few questions..uhmmm..Heres one:What Photoshop training book would you guys recommend for a newbie like me?I should mention I’m interested in using Photoshop to build web pages mainly.Any suggestions on any good "entry level" books out there?
Another question…hehehe…This is probably stupid but…why is it divided into Image ready and Photoshop?I mean why isnt it just one program?I can hear the whole Photoshop community laughing out loud…
Anyway,thanks in advance!
Anders W
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LenHewitt
Dec 11, 2003
Anders,

I’m interested in using Photoshop to build web pages mainly.<<

Then you really need an HTML authoring tool (GoLive, Dreamweaver) rather than Photoshop. Photoshop is fine for creating / prepping IMAGES for web use, but it isn’t a web authoring tool……

Although you CAN create full web pages with ImageReady, they will be very slow to load and you will be very restricted in what you can do. As an example you couldn’t create even a simple form…..

why is it divided into Image ready and Photoshop?I mean why isn’t it just
one program?<<

Good question – It would cause an awful lot of ‘program bloat’ and take up extra resources that are better used in letting Photoshop get on with its main function, namely image editing.
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Anders_Wahlstrom
Dec 11, 2003
Hi LenHewitt
Well thats what I meant really…Using Photoshop to prepare text/images for web pages.I was unclear, I’m sorry.Thanks for your reply.
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Philo_Calhoun
Dec 11, 2003
Start with Photoshop: Classroom in a Book
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Robert_Oliver
Dec 11, 2003
As for why ImageReady is a seperate program, it originally was sold seperately, but Adobe later bundled it together with Photoshop.

I remember back when the Web started to take off there were Photoshop users who did not do Web work who expressed concern about Photoshop being bloated with "useless Web features," or something like that.

Considering how much is shared between ImageReady and Photoshop, it would be nice for Adobe to simply fold the IR features into Photoshop.

I don’t think code bloat would be an issue, as every new release of Photoshop ads new features anyway.
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Dennis_Brody
Dec 12, 2003
Anders- I know everyone will laugh at me when I suggest "Sam’s Teach Yourself Photoshop In Twenty Four Hours." I found it well-suited for a beginner, and it’s written with a sense of humor which comes in handy when you tackle topics like bezier curves!
DB~
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dave_milbut
Dec 12, 2003
dennis and others: Sams teach yourself series is excellent. I’ve not used the ps books, but have learned java with them. Teach yourself java in 24 hours and teach yourself java in 21 days.

The days line is about the same but goes into more depth. i’d expect the same if one exists for photoshop.

No laughing here,
dave
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photoshoplearner
Dec 13, 2003
think the suitable photoshop training kits is, PHOTOSHOP TOTAL TRAINING. COMPLETE SET IS 9 CDS. very nice training kits…

for web-building..
someone mention, DREAMWEAVER, is very good normally use, photoshop to design web grafix, then use slicers to cut, then use dreamweaver to setup the whole page.. by the way, i think dreamweaver is the very nice!
thats about it…
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CindySingleton
Dec 13, 2003
I would love to have Dreamweaver, but couldn’t justify the expense since I only wanted to do and maintain my own site. I used the free "AEDix" as the editor which I downloaded from I don’t remember where. It’s not a WYSIWYG, but I didn’t mind learning to write the code out by hand, especially if I could save hundreds of dollars! I used PS for the images and text for where I wanted an uncommon or stylized font for, then ran them through Image Ready to optimize. It’s not any problem hitting the jump to IR button. If you’re going to do much web stuff, it does look like Dreamweaver is the best.

~Cindy
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Q_Photo
Dec 14, 2003
Concerning combining PS & IR. As a photographer I have no use for Image Ready. Why would I want more menus and pallets (useless, to me) in my way? Time after time I would accidentally click the slice tool by mistake. That would drive me mad, mad, I tell you. I think that IR being available to those that need it is a good thing but I’m glad it is separated from PS. And it doesn’t appear to be very time consuming to switch between them. Of course, because I don’t use IR, I don’t really know.

Concerning books on Photoshop. I would recommend Photoshop Bible by Deke McClelland, along with the Sams book. photoshoplearner mentioned Photoshop Total Training DVD’s, which is also by D. McClelland. It’s a lot of money but I think by far the easiest way to learn PS. If you don’t understand something, rewind and watch it again. I did (do) a LOT of rewinding!
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DV8R
Dec 15, 2003
I would definetly listen to what im going to tell you……

READ THE HELP FILES AND MANUAL PAGE FOR PAGE!!!!!!

This is the best thing you can do as of now.

1.Open Photoshop and the Help files and follow along step by step…. use the tool syour reading about step by step and dont get curious and just start messing around follow the manual and help files word for word. If you do this as a first step you will learn everything at an incredible rate…. no joke.

2. Get Macromedia Dreamweaver 2004. New version really great program. Do the same thing I had said above about the manuals.

3. These 2 programs fit together better than a man and a woman… also no joke. There is absolutly no better combination of software.

4. As for tutorials and further learning "after you have completed the manuals…. Get the Photoshop Bible and Dreamweaver Bible. These books have it all. Theres not much thats not covered in these huge books. Video tutorials are also an excellent way to learn either program. You can find tons of free tutorials on the web but I wouldnt suggest doing any of them until youve read the manuals and learned how to learn these complicated software titles. And yes you read that right ….. LEARN HOW TO LEARN… thats the bottom line if you want to master these programs.

This is the best advice anyone could give anyone starting out with Photoshop. I learned the wrong way for about a year… clicking aroung and never usuing the help files at all. Needless to say I wasted a good year of my life thinking I was doing something….LMAO man was I wrong.

READ THE MANUALS STEP BY STEP!!!!!!!!!!

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