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I posed this same question two days ago on this forum, and I got no replies. Apparently you and I are the only ones designing in Photoshop and exporting (selected slices; not entire page) into Dreamweaver!

John

so it would seem..
I have been searching everywhere for info on this, and cant find thing..

The only "solution" I have come up with is to modify the canvas size s the desired slices fill the entire page, however this isn’t workaround i look forward to doing.. (fiddly and inflexible to say th least)

I find the ommission of the ability to turn off autoslices ver puzzling. From a programming perspective its not difficult. I say thi because a year ago myself and a colleague actually wrote an imag slicer in C that exported slices in nested tables. (i figured th algorithm out from playing around with fireworks). It was incredibl messy and confusing (im not the worlds greatest programmer), but i worked.

Furthermore from my experiments in figuring out the algorithm it seeme the only way to guarantee a table structure based on slices would wor was to use nested tables (colspans, rowspans and shims are easil breakable). Why Adobe havent yet implemented true nested table slicin aka fireworks is odd, since it would be presumably trivial to thei programmers..

I’m kinda interested now in how other developers convert their imag layouts to html, I have to assume my chosen method isnt widespread (o adobe would have implemented true nested exports), though i wouldn want to be fiddling about deleting <td rowspan=10>’s and trying to mak the table work (when editing the export).

I’d be interested to hear others thoughts on this subject..

Ro

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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:58:41 -0800, "John in San Diego" wrote:

I posed this same question two days ago on this forum, and I got no replies. Apparently you and I are the only ones designing in Photoshop and exporting (selected slices; not entire page) into Dreamweaver!

John

No, you’re not. 🙂 However, the difference with me is that I don’t even bother to install IR which, as far as I’m concerned is a total waste of disk space and should have been put out of it’s misery long ago. Fireworks does *everything* better than Image Ready – even it’s compression is better. And when you include things like selective compression allowing different levels across the same jpg, IR is really no competition whatsoever. Personally, no one I know in the web design field would even consider using IR.

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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:58:41 -0800, "John in San Diego" wrote:

I posed this same question two days ago on this forum, and I got no replies. Apparently you and I are the only ones designing in Photoshop and exporting (selected slices; not entire page) into Dreamweaver!

John

No, you’re not. 🙂 However, the difference with me is that I don’t even bother to install IR which, as far as I’m concerned is a total waste of disk space and should have been put out of it’s misery long ago. Fireworks does *everything* better than Image Ready – even it’s compression is better. And when you include things like selective compression allowing different levels across the same jpg, IR is really no competition whatsoever. Personally, no one I know in the web design field would even consider using IR.

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do u mean that you have an option to choose NOT to install Image Ready??

and what about the fact that the new verison apparently exports to swf? is that a waste of time as well?

m c

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So I guess my question is, is there any way to turn off autoslices, or just export selected slices to html?

Not certain this is what you want, but according to the manual for PS7:
1) Select the slices you want to save.
2) Slices>Save Slice Selection
3) File>Save Optimized As, and set the slices option
to the name of the saved slice selection.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 01:44:30 +0000, MArtin Chiselwitt
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Hecate wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:58:41 -0800, "John in San Diego" wrote:

I posed this same question two days ago on this forum, and I got no replies. Apparently you and I are the only ones designing in Photoshop and exporting (selected slices; not entire page) into Dreamweaver!

John

No, you’re not. 🙂 However, the difference with me is that I don’t even bother to install IR which, as far as I’m concerned is a total waste of disk space and should have been put out of it’s misery long ago. Fireworks does *everything* better than Image Ready – even it’s compression is better. And when you include things like selective compression allowing different levels across the same jpg, IR is really no competition whatsoever. Personally, no one I know in the web design field would even consider using IR.

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do u mean that you have an option to choose NOT to install Image Ready??

Yes, when you install. If you do a custom install you can deselect IR. Best use of a mouse click I know.

and what about the fact that the new verison apparently exports to swf? is that a waste of time as well?

Totally. That’s what, amongst other things, Fireworks is for.

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OK! YOu persuaded me!!

do u mean that you have an option to choose NOT to install Image Ready??

Yes, when you install. If you do a custom install you can deselect IR. Best use of a mouse click I know.

and what about the fact that the new verison apparently exports to swf? is that a waste of time as well?

Totally. That’s what, amongst other things, Fireworks is for.
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:18:53 +0000, MArtin Chiselwitt
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OK! YOu persuaded me!!

LOL! 😉

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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:18:53 +0000, MArtin Chiselwitt
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OK! YOu persuaded me!!

LOL! 😉

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in all seriousness, do you know if you can uninstall Image Ready without uninstalling Photoshop??

i am just curious! :]

m c

"MArtin Chiselwitt"

in all seriousness, do you know if you can uninstall Image Ready without uninstalling Photoshop??

i am just curious! :]

m c

I don’t have CS, but if past installations are any indication, I’d say no. However, you do have the option of installing Image Ready when you install Photoshop, so you’d probably have uninstall everything, then reinstall and just uncheck the image ready box.

I dont know why you dont just export the slices that you want to use i you html and then use Dreamweaver to create the html that will us those slices. That is what I do. I have only been into web developmen for a year now this past month and when I first started out I would le Fireworks or Image Ready to do everything for me. This however is horrible mistake. Forgive me for making such a blunt statement as m first post in this forum but it’ true. Take a little time to get th hang of html tables and some CSS. The rewards are endless. You wil find that you design differently in the end because you know what yo need in the html but the time is deffinately worth while. The fina result will be pages that load faster and not to mention you will b able to keep those pesky comment tags out of your html that tell other that you let some program write your html for you.

Please feel free to rip me a new one if I deserve it. I can take it. am still learning this stuff.if you ask me I will send you links t stuff that I have done. I use Photoshop 7.0…. and Dreamweaver MX. almost never look at the Fireworks logo let alone open the program

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:24:40 +0000, MArtin Chiselwitt
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Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:18:53 +0000, MArtin Chiselwitt
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OK! YOu persuaded me!!

LOL! 😉

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in all seriousness, do you know if you can uninstall Image Ready without uninstalling Photoshop??

i am just curious! :]

m c

There is one way if you have WIn2k or XP that might work. Go to control panel/add remove programs. Find Adobe Photoshop. Hit the change rather than the uninstall panel. Make sure you have your CD in the original drive first. It will then take you through the installation routine as normal. When you get to it, select custom install and remove the check box from Image ready. proceed as you would for an installation and it *should* uninstall IR, but I wouldn’t bet on it. The problem is Adobe’s installation routines which don’t follow normal Windows routines. They allow you to change and install/uninstall different bits of programs. Works fine with Office for example, and Windows itself. Adobe, as usual, have to do it differently and wrong 🙂

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:33:44 -0600, tacere
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I dont know why you dont just export the slices that you want to use in you html and then use Dreamweaver to create the html that will use those slices. That is what I do. I have only been into web development for a year now this past month and when I first started out I would let Fireworks or Image Ready to do everything for me. This however is a horrible mistake. Forgive me for making such a blunt statement as my first post in this forum but it’ true. Take a little time to get the hang of html tables and some CSS. The rewards are endless. You will find that you design differently in the end because you know what you need in the html but the time is deffinately worth while. The final result will be pages that load faster and not to mention you will be able to keep those pesky comment tags out of your html that tell others that you let some program write your html for you.

Please feel free to rip me a new one if I deserve it. I can take it. I am still learning this stuff.if you ask me I will send you links to stuff that I have done. I use Photoshop 7.0…. and Dreamweaver MX. I almost never look at the Fireworks logo let alone open the program.

Ok, well, if you want to swap longevity stories, I’ve been doing web design since Hot Metal Pro was the best program around…

I’m afraid that your workflow doesn’t make sense for images, particularly when you can round trip using the inbuilt facilities provided by FW and DW. If you are importing your images straight into DW you are missing out on the facilities that FW provides, including it’s better handling of images than IR for web work and including, and especially, the selective compression that FW allows. Ever wanted to compress your image but not the overlying text, for example? You can do that in FW. You can do nothing of the kind in DW because it isn’t an image handling programme.

The ideal is to use the best tool for the job in hand. And that,s IMHO, DW for web design, FW for web images and Photoshop for all images including working in them in PS and then passing them to FW for the web facilities.

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I’m sorry but FW is a piece of crap. I cant stand to look at th interface or use it’s tools. The whole programme just sucks in m oppion. And just to clarify I don’t use IR either because that too i worthless almost. If I had the time and patience to do so I woul remove it from every computer that I work on but I don’t. PS is by fa way mor powerful than anything else out there for 2d imaging. Also don’t create pictures of text, unless it is some type of logo tha needs the text to be in a certain way. Otherwise if there is to be tex on a web page I use actual text in the web page.

Pictures of text, what a waste of bandwidth

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