Animation with Photoshop

Hi,
Apologies if this is the wrong ng for this question, but I am trying to find an app for producing hand-drawn (via a graphic tablet and traditional pencil/paper/scanner) animations (short-film length). Ideally I would like to use Photoshop for composing each frame, as this is what I am used to using for drawing, but I also need a timeline with onion skinning etc. Is there anything out there that combines a drawing UI like Photoshop with a timeline like Premiere or After Effects? Yes, I know that I can bring my Photoshop images into Premiere or AE, but I’d like to have the drawing tools and the timeline/animating tools in the same package (I haven’t used either of these, but my understanding is that you can’t draw in them a-la Photoshop…?). Is there any way to do this with any of the Adobe products? Or with some other product? Thanks,
Shannon

Shannon Lloyd wrote:

Hi,
Apologies if this is the wrong ng for this question, but I am trying to find an app for producing hand-drawn (via a graphic tablet and traditional pencil/paper/scanner) animations (short-film length). Ideally I would like to use Photoshop for composing each frame, as this is what I am used to using for drawing, but I also need a timeline with onion skinning etc. Is there anything out there that combines a drawing UI like Photoshop with a timeline like Premiere or After Effects? Yes, I know that I can bring my Photoshop images into Premiere or AE, but I’d like to have the drawing tools and the timeline/animating tools in the same package (I haven’t used either of these, but my understanding is that you can’t draw in them a-la Photoshop…?). Is there any way to do this with any of the Adobe products? Or with some other product? Thanks,
Shannon

is this what you are looking for?:

Mirage – http://www.bauhaussoftware.com/ [use to be a prog. called Aura that I used many moons ago.. Has a timeling like a good video-editing package with lots of fab painting tools and effects]

AE has a certain amount of photoshop paint-tool inclusion now. YOu may also want to read up on discreet Combustion as this is a very powerful compositing and video effects prog. that is probably very useful for an animator like yerself…

only thing is, this software is very expensive…

hth

mart c.

Have you checked Image Ready that comes with Photoshop? Your frames can be layers in Photoshop and then you can flip to Image Ready to do the animation. It is probably not the tops in animation but for small jobs it might work for you.

wes wrote:

Have you checked Image Ready that comes with Photoshop? Your frames can

layers in Photoshop and then you can flip to Image Ready to do the animation. It is probably not the tops in animation but for small jobs

might work for you.

yeah, i thought about that, but i wasn’t sure how well it would scale for a 10 minute film. i’ll probably play around with it though. is there any limit to the number of layers you can use? or is it just limited by

"Shannon Lloyd" wrote in message

wes wrote:

Have you checked Image Ready that comes with Photoshop? Your frames can

be

layers in Photoshop and then you can flip to Image Ready to do the animation. It is probably not the tops in animation but for small jobs

it

might work for you.

yeah, i thought about that, but i wasn’t sure how well it would scale for a 10 minute film. i’ll probably play around with it though. is there any limit to the number of layers you can use? or is it just limited by

ram?

ImageReady is limited by pathetic performance and bad design. You don’t want to use it for anything nontrivial.

Hi,
Apologies if this is the wrong ng for this question, but I am trying to find an app for producing hand-drawn (via a graphic tablet and traditional pencil/paper/scanner) animations (short-film length). Ideally I would like to use Photoshop for composing each frame, as this is what I am used to using for drawing, but I also need a timeline with onion skinning etc. Is there anything out there that combines a drawing UI like Photoshop with a timeline like Premiere or After Effects? Yes, I know that I can bring my Photoshop images into Premiere or AE, but I’d like to have the drawing tools and the timeline/animating tools in the same package (I haven’t used either of these, but my understanding is that you can’t draw in them a-la Photoshop…?). Is there any way to do this with any of the Adobe products? Or with some other product? Thanks,
Shannon

Paintshop Pro includes animation software.
Onion skinning, timeline, frame duration etc.
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wes wrote:

Have you checked Image Ready that comes with Photoshop? Your frames can

layers in Photoshop and then you can flip to Image Ready to do the animation. It is probably not the tops in animation but for small jobs

might work for you.

yeah, i thought about that, but i wasn’t sure how well it would scale for a 10 minute film. i’ll probably play around with it though. is there any limit to the number of layers you can use? or is it just limited by

Have you checked into LiveMotion? I’ve only dabbled with it, but it seems to do what you’re after. It’s an Adobe Orphan now, so you may be able to get it reasonably.

Tin Ear wrote:

Have you checked into LiveMotion? I’ve only dabbled with it, but it seems to
do what you’re after. It’s an Adobe Orphan now, so you may be able to get it
reasonably.

Wasn’t LM Adobe’s Flash-killer? I’ve played around a bit with doing some short animation in Flash, but the drawing tools always disappointed me. I don’t really need vector tools; just raster stuff. I’ve been playing with the demo of Mirage (recommended here by a previous poster – thanks!) for a couple of days, and it seems to do a pretty nice job.

How about a link? I did a search, but found nothing…

JD

demo of Mirage (recommended here by a previous poster – thanks!) for a couple of days, and it seems to do a pretty nice job.