what is batch

pat wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂

As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the *longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?

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Branko Vukelic ()

In article , says…

pat wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂
As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the *longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?

And to comments like dat I say…
"DBAFDH!!!"
(Don’t Be A Fucking Dick Head!)
Manuals aren’t always the easiest thing to comprehend…especially for a Non-GEEK.
That’s the primary reason WHY there are forums like this to ask questions.
If everyone "RTFM"…there would be no NEED for PS Newsgroups… WE’D KNOW!
And if you can’t deal with the same redundant questions being asked here a lot by noobies…
FUCK OFF and STAY OUTTA HERE!!!
Go hang out "in the lounge" wit da other Fa-fa Shi-Shi, artsy-fartsy, psuedo-intellectual geeks, and match wits against each other to see who’s "smarter and wittier", or fawn over each other in syrupy "warm & fuzzy" fake praise.
I’m here to learn and to try and help people if I can with my limited knowledge.

In response to your question…
Not exactly sure I understand what you want to do.
"Equal" to WHAT?
Explain yourself more.
But if what you mean is to make one side longer on some pix, and shorter on others, like 800×600 vs. 600×800…
Try creating an action for both edges… (horizontal or vertical)…like say "resize 800×600" and "resize 600×800"…or whatever you want them equal to…and just run either one as a batch command.

HTH
The Magician

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:39:52 GMT, The Magician
scribbled:

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pat wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂
As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the *longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?

And to comments like dat I say…
"DBAFDH!!!"
(Don’t Be A Fucking Dick Head!)

Take your own advice.

Manuals aren’t always the easiest thing to comprehend…especially for a Non-GEEK.

What’s a non-geek doing with Photoshop?

That’s the primary reason WHY there are forums like this to ask questions.

Really? And when did that happen?

If everyone "RTFM"…there would be no NEED for PS Newsgroups… WE’D KNOW!

Have you even LOOKED at the Photoshop help file?
Press: F1
Search: "batch"
First entry: "Using the Batch Command"
First Sentence: "The Batch command lets you play an action on a folder of files and subfolders"

Man, you’re right, that’s fucking HARD to comprehend, isn’t it?

I’m here to learn and to try and help people if I can with my limited knowledge.

Please to be adding the word ‘very’ before the word ‘limited’, thanks.

"The Magician" wrote in message

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pat wrote:

And to comments like dat I say…
"DBAFDH!!!"
(Don’t Be A Fucking Dick Head!)
sniped the rest of the barking<

DBAFI,
How to use a NG:
1) Try to find your answer in the Manual
2) Do an advanced Group search in Google in alt.graphics.photoshop http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
3) If you still have problems ask somebody in the NG

Stephan

Fucking Hell!
Five minutes in the group and dishing out orders already. On top of that, you obviously haven’t read the fucking manual yourself or you would know the answer.
Way to get help, image-guru.
—

Ron.

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂
As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the *longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?
—
Branko Vukelic ()

I thank The Magician and RTM. the rest of you are a bunch of self serving assholes! all I did was asks a simple question and every swing dick that hasn’t got some lately responded ! grow up guys or don’t answer any more questions until you do get some

RTM wrote in message

Fucking Hell!
Five minutes in the group and dishing out orders already. On top of that, you obviously haven’t read the fucking manual yourself or you would know the answer.
Way to get help, image-guru.
—

Ron.

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common

comment

to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂
As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the *longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?
—
Branko Vukelic ()

In simple terms it enables you to record an action, and then run it all the images in a folder, for example
my Nikon D1 produces images that are a little magenta in colour, it’s a standard problem, so I have a action that uses selective colour and takes out 100% cyan and 35% magenta from the red channel. so I run this on all my images after I have down loaded them from the camera.
you can also assign this to a droplet that can sit on your desk top so all you do is drag a file in to the droplet and Photoshop runs the action.

"pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote in message

I thank The Magician and RTM. the rest of you are a bunch of self serving assholes! all I did was asks a simple question and every swing dick that hasn’t got some lately responded ! grow up guys or don’t answer any more questions until you do get some

RTM wrote in

message

Fucking Hell!
Five minutes in the group and dishing out orders already. On top of that, you obviously haven’t read the fucking manual yourself

or

you would know the answer.
Way to get help, image-guru.
—

Ron.

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common

comment

to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual,

for

instance, if you get a chance. Now *that* is what I call pain.) 🙂
As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make

the

*longer* edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?
—
Branko Vukelic ()

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:57:54 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> scribbled:

I thank The Magician and RTM. the rest of you are a bunch of self serving assholes! all I did was asks a simple question and every swing dick that hasn’t got some lately responded ! grow up guys or don’t answer any more questions until you do get some

You asked a simple question you could have answered yourself in less than 30 seconds. Don’t get mad at other people because you’re a lazy fucking slacker too stupid to do your own research.

In article ,
says…

<snipping out a bunch of hot air…>

That’s the primary reason WHY there are forums like this to ask questions.

Really? And when did that happen?

Maybe not in YOUR "Holier-Than-Thou", latte-drinking, "I’m a Photoshop Wizard and Your Not" smug little world Skippy…but…yeah…that IS one of the primary reasons for forums.

And what IF people were just too lazy, or too stupid, or just didn’t wanna bother, and found using a newsgroup easier…???
SO WHAT?
Who made YOU this week’s newsgroup cop dicksnot???
If people’s posts here "annoy" you so fucking much… DON’T READ ‘EM!
They probably take too much time away from your whacking off to kiddie porn anyhoo…
And while yer at it…why don’tcha bury yer head up yer ass, and put me in your killfile asshole.
Whenever I see some jerkoff like YOU use the netgeek term of RTFM in a newsgroup when someone’s asking for help…I say…"FOADMF!" (fuck off and die mutha fuka!)
The Magician

did I hurt your feeling? voivod (oh well )

Voivod wrote in message

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:57:54 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> scribbled:

I thank The Magician and RTM. the rest of you are a bunch of self serving assholes! all I did was asks a simple question and every swing dick that hasn’t got some lately responded ! grow up guys or don’t answer any more questions until you do get some

You asked a simple question you could have answered yourself in less than 30 seconds. Don’t get mad at other people because you’re a lazy fucking slacker too stupid to do your own research.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:55:05 GMT, The Magician
scribbled:

In article ,
says…

<snipping out a bunch of hot air…>

That’s the primary reason WHY there are forums like this to ask questions.

Really? And when did that happen?

Maybe not in YOUR "Holier-Than-Thou", latte-drinking, "I’m a Photoshop Wizard and Your Not" smug little world Skippy…but…yeah…that IS one of the primary reasons for forums.

They’re newsgroups, not forums.

And what IF people were just too lazy, or too stupid, or just didn’t wanna bother, and found using a newsgroup easier…???

Well the chances of someone that stupid even comprehending an answer dumbed down from the help files are rather slim.

SO WHAT?
Who made YOU this week’s newsgroup cop dicksnot???

Could you learn to punctuate so you don’t look as moronic as you do now, shitwit?

If people’s posts here "annoy" you so fucking much…

Who said they annoy me?

DON’T READ ‘EM!
They probably take too much time away from your whacking off to kiddie porn anyhoo…

Aww, a pedophile lame, how amusing. You’re new to usenet, aren’t you?

And while yer at it…why don’tcha bury yer head up yer ass, and put me in your killfile asshole.

Because it’s much too much fun to pull your strings.

Whenever I see some jerkoff like YOU use the netgeek term of RTFM in a newsgroup when someone’s asking for help…I say…"FOADMF!" (fuck off and die mutha fuka!)

Free hint: spelling out acronyms after using them makes
you seem even dumber than before.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:57:10 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> scribbled:

did I hurt your feeling? voivod (oh well )

Are you really that stupid?

Voivod wrote in message

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:57:54 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> scribbled:

I thank The Magician and RTM. the rest of you are a bunch of self serving assholes! all I did was asks a simple question and every swing dick that hasn’t got some lately responded ! grow up guys or don’t answer any more questions until you do get some

You asked a simple question you could have answered yourself in less than 30 seconds. Don’t get mad at other people because you’re a lazy fucking slacker too stupid to do your own research.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:09:15 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Simple. Boot up Photoshop. Hit F1. On the alphabet at the top, click on A. Scroll down till you come to Actions. Follow the instructions. Then, when you get stuck and have a specific question, come back here and ask it.

As far as picture editing goes, whilst there are lots of Photoshop and Photographic sites, some of which are excellent, if you don’t know where to start you’re better off reading a book first. Try the Photoshop Visual QuickStart Guide which will give you lots of basic info and act like a manual, only more easy to read. And if you’re particularly interested in Photography, get Martin Evening’s Photoshop for Photographers. But be aware that none of it is easy, and Photoshop especially isn’t easy. You could be using it for 15 years and still not know half of what’s in the package.

If you’re thinking you want easy answers, then you won’t get them. PS isn’t like that. If you *need* easy answers, buy Photoshop Elements. A lot more handholding in there.

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

In article ,
says…

<More of Void’s typographic masturbation trimmed…>

They’re newsgroups, not forums.

Again…maybe not in YOUR universe…but here’s the definition dimwit:

"Forum
An online discussion group. Online services and bulletin board services (BBS’s) provide a variety of forums, in which participants with common interests can exchange open messages. Forums are sometimes called newsgroups (in the Internet world) or conferences."

Could you learn to punctuate so you don’t look as moronic as you do now, shitwit?

Ahh…when pompous controlfreaks like you can’t make a valid arguement for being a complete and utter asshole…they pick on your punctuation and grammar…
Yeah…I’ve been on Usenet and the planet long enuff to spot a load yo mamma shoulda swallowed.

Who said they annoy me?

Obviously they DO…otherwise you’da shut the fuck up and never said a friggin’ word.
Try not to be THAT fucking smug…only makes you look stupider.

They probably take too much time away from your whacking off to kiddie porn anyhoo…

Aww, a pedophile lame, how amusing. You’re new to usenet, aren’t you?

My GOD…you are SOOOO fucking clever and amusing…aren’t you? Keep trying Slappy…yer diggin’ yer own grave at looking like the posterboy for the Anal Retentive Fuckwipe’s Association.

And while yer at it…why don’tcha bury yer head up yer ass, and put me in your killfile asshole.

Because it’s much too much fun to pull your strings.

Ooooh…dis iz da part where jerks like you who think their so tragically hip, witty and clever and try to turn the tables, and act like their goading YOU on…
Ummm…sorry Charlie…ain’t gonna woik.
You replied to MY posts Sonny.
You ain’t pulling nothing but your tiny dick.
Oh…has that barb been used on Usenet before…? Jeez…I’m sorry. Sorry for being so redundantly correct.

The point is…newsgroups were made to discuss issues, ask questions, get help, and socialize…
NOT to criticize, demean, be impatient with, point faults at, pick on, act better than, and generally act like the douchebag that you’ve been displaying yourself as.
If you ain’t a part of the solution…don’t be more of a problem.

And if people make you so damn impatiently annoyed at their lack of knowledge, internet savy, tech savy, typos, lack of spelling skills, lack of proper grammar, or places they get solutions to their problems… do us all a favor and skip to da next thread, and stop bein’ such a Magafaffalatin’ Horse’s Asshole!

I’m done wastin’ my time with you now…take your Zoloft, and punch in your login for www.MidgetsFuckingInDuckbutter.com and crank one out… you’ll feel a lot better afterward…
Class Dismissed.
The Magician

thanks Hecate that’s all I was asking for was information not to start WW III

Hecate wrote in message

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:09:15 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Simple. Boot up Photoshop. Hit F1. On the alphabet at the top, click on A. Scroll down till you come to Actions. Follow the instructions. Then, when you get stuck and have a specific question, come back here and ask it.

As far as picture editing goes, whilst there are lots of Photoshop and Photographic sites, some of which are excellent, if you don’t know where to start you’re better off reading a book first. Try the Photoshop Visual QuickStart Guide which will give you lots of basic info and act like a manual, only more easy to read. And if you’re particularly interested in Photography, get Martin Evening’s Photoshop for Photographers. But be aware that none of it is easy, and Photoshop especially isn’t easy. You could be using it for 15 years and still not know half of what’s in the package.

If you’re thinking you want easy answers, then you won’t get them. PS isn’t like that. If you *need* easy answers, buy Photoshop Elements. A lot more handholding in there.

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 04:23:26 GMT, The Magician
scribbled:

In article ,
says…

<More of Void’s typographic masturbation trimmed…>

They’re newsgroups, not forums.

Again…maybe not in YOUR universe…but here’s the definition dimwit:

You certainly are the definition dimwit.

"Forum
An online discussion group. Online services and bulletin board services (BBS’s) provide a variety of forums, in which participants with common interests can exchange open messages. Forums are sometimes called newsgroups (in the Internet world) or conferences."

Did you get this from some "Moron’s guide the internet"? Newsgroups have been called newsgroups for decades.
You really ARE new to usenet, aren’t you.

Who said they annoy me?

Obviously they DO…otherwise you’da shut the fuck up and never said a friggin’ word.

Ah, amateur psychology, right after the pedo lames, you’re doing well, grasshopper.

Try not to be THAT fucking smug…only makes you look stupider.

They probably take too much time away from your whacking off to kiddie porn anyhoo…

Aww, a pedophile lame, how amusing. You’re new to usenet, aren’t you?

My GOD…you are SOOOO fucking clever and amusing…aren’t you?

Far more clever and amusing than you. Let’s see, you’ve done the pedo lame gig, and you’ve played psychologist… what will be next… I’m betting you’re either going to threaten to kick my ass, or scurry off like a little coward.

Keep trying Slappy…yer diggin’ yer own grave at looking like the posterboy for the Anal Retentive Fuckwipe’s Association.

Did you get any spittle on the monitor while you were screaming out these sad little rants of yours?

And while yer at it…why don’tcha bury yer head up yer ass, and put me in your killfile asshole.

Because it’s much too much fun to pull your strings.

Ooooh…dis iz da part where jerks like you who think their so tragically hip, witty and clever and try to turn the tables, and act like their goading YOU on…

But I have been goading you on. See how easy it is?
Watch, I’ll do it again.

Ummm…sorry Charlie…ain’t gonna woik.

It’s already worked.

You replied to MY posts Sonny.

Your post has a sonny?

You ain’t pulling nothing but your tiny dick.

Ah, I forgot the old ‘your penis is small’ lame, good of you to remind me.

Oh…has that barb been used on Usenet before…? Jeez…I’m sorry.

Well now that you’ve realized your limitations you should do something with that knowledge. Learn something.
Start with punctuation, they teach that in grammar school.

Sorry for being so redundantly correct.

The point is…newsgroups were made to discuss issues, ask questions, get help, and socialize…
NOT to criticize, demean, be impatient with, point faults at, pick on,

Sorry, you don’t get to dictate what newsgroups are for, but thanks for playing.

act better than, and generally act like the douchebag that you’ve been displaying yourself as.
If you ain’t a part of the solution…don’t be more of a problem.

You’re the one supporting stupidity. "If you’re too stupid to even look for an answer, just ask in the newsgroup and get someone else to do the work for you" is what you’re encouraging.

And if people make you so damn impatiently annoyed at their lack of knowledge, internet savy, tech savy, typos, lack of spelling skills, lack of proper grammar, or places they get solutions to their problems… do us all a favor and skip to da next thread, and stop bein’ such a Magafaffalatin’ Horse’s Asshole!

I’m done wastin’ my time with you now…take your Zoloft, and punch in

So you’re going to scurry off like a coward, not unexpected since you appear to have exhausted your entire vocabulary already.

your login for www.MidgetsFuckingInDuckbutter.com and crank one out… you’ll feel a lot better afterward…
Class Dismissed.

Buh bye!

The Magician wrote:

In article , says…

pat wrote:

what is a batch editor, and what dose it do ?
hi just wondering about this because I’m still learning
who to do photo editing .Is there a place I can go to learn all I need to know about this picture editing thanks [[pat]]

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now that is what I call pain.) 🙂

As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the longer edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?

And to comments like dat I say…
"DBAFDH!!!"

Good for you!

(Don’t Be A Fucking Dick Head!)
Manuals aren’t always the easiest thing to comprehend…especially for a Non-GEEK.
That’s the primary reason WHY there are forums like this to ask questions.
If everyone "RTFM"…there would be no NEED for PS Newsgroups… WE’D KNOW!
And if you can’t deal with the same redundant questions being asked here a lot by noobies…
FUCK OFF and STAY OUTTA HERE!!!

With that kinda eloquence, you coud’ve made a decent PR somewhere…

Anyway, RTFM is just a phrase, man. Chill. It’s not meant to be taken as an insult.

OTOH, since you didn’t understand the PS manual, I
guess it can’t be expected that you understand such things as common phrases.

Go hang out "in the lounge" wit da other Fa-fa Shi-Shi, artsy-fartsy, psuedo-intellectual geeks, and match wits against each other to see who’s "smarter and wittier", or fawn over each other in syrupy "warm & fuzzy" fake praise.

I wouldn’t bother. I’d never beat you.

I’m here to learn and to try and help people if I can with my limited knowledge.

Limited… :)))))

In response to your question…
Not exactly sure I understand what you want to do.

No, I’m sure you don’t. But thanks anyway. I was just curious, that’s all.

"Equal" to WHAT?
Explain yourself more.
But if what you mean is to make one side longer on some pix, and shorter on others, like 800×600 vs. 600×800…
Try creating an action for both edges… (horizontal or vertical)…like say "resize 800×600" and "resize 600×800"…or whatever you want them equal to…and just run either one as a batch command.

HTH
The Magician

—
Branko Vukelic ()

RTM wrote:

Fucking Hell!
Five minutes in the group and dishing out orders already. On top of that, you obviously haven’t read the fucking manual yourself or you would know the answer.
Way to get help, image-guru.
—

Ron.

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

Read the fucking manual (RTFM for short). This is the most common comment to question like this. Adobe’s manuals are usually quite informative compared to other major companies. (Try reading Corel’s User Manual, for instance, if you get a chance. Now that is what I call pain.) 🙂

As for batch, I can’t help you. Wait for others to respond. (Hecate! Where’s Hecate!)

I’ve got a question for y’all, too.

When batch resizing images, is there a way to tell PS to, say, make the longer edge (either horizontal or vertical) equal to something?
—
Branko Vukelic ()

I don’t give orders. If you took it as an order, than you should join the army. They love people who think every suggestion is an order.

If you fuckheads are gonna play stupid, that’s fine with me. But do try to be more intelligent when interpreting posts, okay.

And, just FYI, I’m not five minutes PS user. I use PS for pro work at least five hours a day at times. I’ve learned PS on my own using the manual as the only reference in under 24 hours (and that’s because the PS manual is so well written — I dare say it’s the best), and English is not my native language.

—
Branko Vukelic ()

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

I don’t give orders. If you took it as an order, than you should join the army. They love people who think every suggestion is an order.
If you fuckheads are gonna play stupid, that’s fine with me. But do try to be more intelligent when interpreting posts, okay.

Better you should be more intelligent when making them.

And, just FYI, I’m not five minutes PS user. I use PS for pro work at

least

five hours a day at times. I’ve learned PS on my own using the manual as the only reference in under 24 hours (and that’s because the PS manual is so well written — I dare say it’s the best), and English is not my native language.

Then perhaps you should study it a while longer. Though from your response here I doubt if your answer to Pat was offensive by accident.

—

Ron.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:12:43 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

thanks Hecate that’s all I was asking for was information not to start WW III

Some people just like to cause problems. I would like to point out though that the original response of RTFM is a common Net usage and I’m sure wasn’t particularly aimed at being awkward. It may not be a plolit4e phrase <g> but it is common usage 🙂

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

RTM wrote:

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

I don’t give orders. If you took it as an order, than you should join the army. They love people who think every suggestion is an order.

Better you should be more intelligent when making them.

And, just FYI, I’m not five minutes PS user. I use PS for pro work at

least

five hours a day at times. I’ve learned PS on my own using the manual as the only reference in under 24 hours (and that’s because the PS manual is so well written — I dare say it’s the best), and English is not my native language.

Then perhaps you should study it a while longer. Though from your response here I doubt if your answer to Pat was offensive by accident.
—

Ron.

I hate to repeat myself, but: "If you fuckheads are gonna play stupid, that’s fine with me. But do try to be more intelligent when interpreting posts, okay."

—
Branko Vukelic ()

Hecate wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:12:43 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

thanks Hecate that’s all I was asking for was information not to start WW III

Some people just like to cause problems. I would like to point out though that the original response of RTFM is a common Net usage and I’m sure wasn’t particularly aimed at being awkward. It may not be a plolit4e phrase <g> but it is common usage 🙂

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

You know, Hecate, it’s hard to tell what’s polite on this ng. The F word’s been used so often that "RTFM" seemed like just another benign comment. I guess it was not, tho. 😉 Besides, there seems to be an overall lack of humor (or sense thereof) on this ng. Hot jokes cool over the Atlantic?

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Branko Vukelic ()

Branko Vukelic wrote in message

I hate to repeat myself

Then don’t.
You are no more intelligent now than you were the first time. BTW, if you are going to make posts that are open to interpretation then you can guarantee they will be misinterpreted.
Swearing does not make you clever, nor does it make you right.

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Ron.

damn…it would be nice to see some of the folks who are quick to take aim at newbie and percieved "stupid" questions…..actualy POST something on this newsgroup that is helpful…rather than just take all too easy pop shots at folks.

scrolling through the threads….i have yet to see one intelligent or useful post by vovoid (void of all intelligence, use or purpose).

If you see something see a newbie or "idiot" question….just STFU (shut the fc up). It will save space, time and frustration for yourself and others.

peace,

j
"Branko Vukelic" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:12:43 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

thanks Hecate that’s all I was asking for was information not to start WW III

Some people just like to cause problems. I would like to point out though that the original response of RTFM is a common Net usage and I’m sure wasn’t particularly aimed at being awkward. It may not be a plolit4e phrase <g> but it is common usage 🙂

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Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

You know, Hecate, it’s hard to tell what’s polite on this ng. The F word’s been used so often that "RTFM" seemed like just another benign comment. I guess it was not, tho. 😉 Besides, there seems to be an overall lack of humor (or sense thereof) on this ng. Hot jokes cool over the Atlantic?
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Branko Vukelic ()

jrzyguy wrote:

damn…it would be nice to see some of the folks who are quick to take aim at newbie and percieved "stupid" questions…..actualy POST something on this newsgroup that is helpful…rather than just take all too easy pop shots at folks.

scrolling through the threads….i have yet to see one intelligent or useful post by vovoid (void of all intelligence, use or purpose).
If you see something see a newbie or "idiot" question….just STFU (shut the fc up). It will save space, time and frustration for yourself and others.

peace,

j
"Branko Vukelic" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:12:43 -0700, "pat" <pat @neverlate.time> wrote:

thanks Hecate that’s all I was asking for was information not to start WW III

Some people just like to cause problems. I would like to point out though that the original response of RTFM is a common Net usage and I’m sure wasn’t particularly aimed at being awkward. It may not be a plolit4e phrase <g> but it is common usage 🙂

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Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

You know, Hecate, it’s hard to tell what’s polite on this ng. The F word’s been used so often that "RTFM" seemed like just another benign comment. I guess it was not, tho. 😉 Besides, there seems to be an overall lack of humor (or sense thereof) on this ng. Hot jokes cool over the Atlantic?

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Branko Vukelic ()

I’d say this remark also applies to those who are obsessed with the idea that some pepople don’t like newbies (and their questions). As far as I can tell, Voivod is not picky when it comes to flaming. He probably has his own idea of what’s (and who’s) stupid, as we all do, and that does not necessarily mean it’s the newbies. I’ve seen him deliver on both ends of the usefulness scale, sometimes helping the newbies, sometimes flaming the not-so-newbies.

The main issue is not whether the question is "stupid" or not. ("There are no stupid questions," one might add.) The real problem is not resorting to RTFM *before* asking away. As I pointed out before (perhaps not too explicitly), there’s no reason why people who don’t RTFM should be considered foolish. It’s the people who skip on RTFM advice and want the FM to be written for them on this ng that could be called stupid. Of course, this is my personal opinion <all rights reserved>, but I think many would share the same view (read the EULA <g>).

Another issue is people’s lack of understanding for phrases like RTFM. [But that’s, I suppose, a language issue. ;)] I think I’ve explained already why reading this particual fucking manual (i.e, the PS manual) could prove to be more useful than flaming on the ng (which is, as we could all see, inevitable). Don’t you think that this is as helpful to a newbie as solving the problems for them?

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Branko Vukelic ()

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:18:18 -0500, "jrzyguy" scribbled:

damn…it would be nice to see some of the folks who are quick to take aim at newbie and percieved "stupid" questions…..actualy POST something on this newsgroup that is helpful…rather than just take all too easy pop shots at folks.

Damn..it would be nice to see some newbie spend 30 seconds researching their question before expecting other people to do it for them.

scrolling through the threads….i have yet to see one intelligent or useful post by vovoid (void of all intelligence, use or purpose).

Aww, another cute name lame!

If you see something see a newbie or "idiot" question….just STFU (shut the fc up). It will save space, time and frustration for yourself and others.

Didn’t we already cover how stupid you look if you have to explain an acronym after using it?

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:41:18 +0100, "Branko Vukelic" wrote:

You know, Hecate, it’s hard to tell what’s polite on this ng. The F word’s been used so often that "RTFM" seemed like just another benign comment. I guess it was not, tho. 😉 Besides, there seems to be an overall lack of humor (or sense thereof) on this ng. Hot jokes cool over the Atlantic?

It’s the same old, old problem and one I’m guilty of causing myself sometimes. Humans are animals and when they meet face to face read each others body language to decide, for example, whether that baring of teeth is a threat or a smile. You can’t do that on Usenet. You have to rely on the dreaded smiley and common sense. Both of which are a poor substitute for human expression in a text environment.

Everybody is guilty of taking umbrage ( I love that word <g>) at someone else’s "witty" commentary on what they thought was their perfectly crafted message. And because [people often post at times when they’ve already had a hard days work, they are often less than forgiving of errors and so forth. Consequently you see flames lighting up the horizon. The trick is to try and never feed the flames. But, we’re all human, so it happens. 🙂

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Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

WES

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:49:58 -0500, "jrzyguy" scribbled:

WES

Brilliant, witty, what a smashing mind you have, nimrod.

Hecate wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:41:18 +0100, "Branko Vukelic" wrote:

You know, Hecate, it’s hard to tell what’s polite on this ng. The F word’s been used so often that "RTFM" seemed like just another benign comment. I guess it was not, tho. 😉 Besides, there seems to be an overall lack of humor (or sense thereof) on this ng. Hot jokes cool over the Atlantic?

It’s the same old, old problem and one I’m guilty of causing myself sometimes. Humans are animals and when they meet face to face read each others body language to decide, for example, whether that baring of teeth is a threat or a smile. You can’t do that on Usenet. You have to rely on the dreaded smiley and common sense. Both of which are a poor substitute for human expression in a text environment.
Everybody is guilty of taking umbrage ( I love that word <g>) at someone else’s "witty" commentary on what they thought was their perfectly crafted message. And because [people often post at times when they’ve already had a hard days work, they are often less than forgiving of errors and so forth. Consequently you see flames lighting up the horizon. The trick is to try and never feed the flames. But, we’re all human, so it happens. 🙂

So, you’re mad at me?! Why are you screaming like that?! Nooooooooooo! :)))

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Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

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Branko Vukelic ()

In article <NPBNb.456$>, Headrush
Films wrote:

my Nikon D1 produces images that are a little magenta in colour, it’s a standard problem, so I have a action that uses selective colour and takes out 100% cyan and 35% magenta from the red channel. so I run this on all my images after I have down loaded them from the camera.

Wouldnt’ it be easier to set the white balance in the camera?

Steve Moody wrote:

In article <NPBNb.456$>, Headrush
Films wrote:

my Nikon D1 produces images that are a little magenta in colour, it’s a standard problem, so I have a action that uses selective colour and takes out 100% cyan and 35% magenta from the red channel. so I run this on all my images after I have down loaded them from the camera.

Wouldnt’ it be easier to set the white balance in the camera?

Raw images don’t have white balance, by definition.
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

In article <xw0Sb.17496$>, Mike
Russell wrote:

my Nikon D1 produces images that are a little magenta in colour, it’s a standard problem, so I have a action that uses selective colour and takes out 100% cyan and 35% magenta from the red channel. so I run this on all my images after I have down loaded them from the camera.

Wouldnt’ it be easier to set the white balance in the camera?

Raw images don’t have white balance, by definition.

What’s that got to do with it? Headrush doesn’t say that he is using RAW format.