"Alvie" wrote in message
"Stephan" wrote in message
Of course you don’t have color problems.
You are the genius who solved all colors reproduction issues by turning
off
color management!
(You would solve the world’s energy problem by shutting down oil
supplies)
Stephan
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That’s really nice Stephen. Thank you for your interjection and Hi-jack of the thread.
This is not an hi-jack, you see this is a NG, you post and other people reply.
You’ll see you’ll get used to it with time.
If everything worked well without colour management… Why would anyone
use
it?
Haven’t you noticed? I does not!
True, some people – for reasons beyond my comprehension, think colour management is something every Adobe Photoshop user *MUST* use.
Is it that hard to understand? Let me explain: Photoshop users, most of them, like to be able to print what they see on their screen. They like to print on their own printer for proofing AND where ever they need to print after that. Is it still beyond your comprehension now?
The simple fact is that if you use a suitable video card, proper (Windows)
profile for
your monitor and you use the manufacturer supplied ICC for the printer,
all
things being equal, the photographs you print should look like the ones
you
edit. If you use my print service and don’t follow my instructions, you
WILL
NOT GET consistent or even representative results.
From what you say here I don’t think I would like to use your services
Way to many photographers I service, have doubled up on their output profiles and used some God awful colour management settings and can’t understand why their output look so different. For them, colour management is an interference to their workflow and the only way they can get
anywhere
near useful output is to turn off colour management. If they choose to use my lab (or any other Durst system) they only need to apply my ICC just before they cut a disk to send me and their photos will be very close to what they edited.
On the other side of the coin. People like you who claim to know so much about everything to do with Photoshop and deride others for their simpler solutions, cause digital lab operators the most grief. Somehow the phrase: "A little knowledge is dangerous" fits in there somewhere.
Nice try, I do happen to be living from my photography and I did spend time on sites like the one I recommended you to make sure I learned what I need to know.
When I send someone on their way with a CD of their pictures, they never come back to tell me the prints look terrible.
The real thing I have a problem with about you and your ilk, is that you seem to think I spent over 100 grand of my superannuation fund on a
digital
print lab and another 10 on a factory technician to get a system that will produce consistent results… And should abandon that tried and proven system just because you want to use some cocked up colour management
system
that suits *YOU*. It would be really nice if you actually took the time
to
understand that not everyone asking for help here knows as much (or
little?)
as you do.
Spending lots of money makes you an expert?
There are lots of labs with very expensive machines out there producing consistent shit;
For some reason I tend to think yours is one of them
Stephen, Get a perspective on things. There really is another side to everything. For you, your system may work flawlessly. For many, many
others
of whom a large proportion make a living from Photography and are just now moving to digital, they don’t have nor can afford the time to acquire intimate knowledge of computers and software. They are after all; Photographers first.
All depends what you call photographers
Maybe if this forum was divided into 3 sections.
1. *Experts*
2. Novices
3. Pirates and interjectors
It might be a more helpful place to post requests. You offer no help at
all
to anyone, on any subject.
If you knew how to do a search you’d find out that I helped quite a bit on this group over the years
And, unlike you, I never played Expert
You appeared here on January 9 this year, 10 posts so far, and have not offered help but this:
-A oh so funny jokes like "Can some send me a couple of $100 bills so I can try a scan on them please?" on 01/10
-Or helpful posts like " Buy a legal copy."01/06 -Or: "and learn too. Wanker!" 01/15
-Or: "Get into the real world and discover the people who spend thir life supporting the software actually have a clue too. Idiot! "01/15 -Or: "RTFM perhaps?" 01/09
This is half or your "contribution" so far BTW
Is this what you call help? You call people names, RTFM them and tell them to turn off their color management!
Some help really…
All you do is hi-jack threads and post derogatory
remarks for your own amusement. You are: The Pest of AGP.
Again, not hi-jack and all I did was to point out that your *solution* to color control is absolutly, completly, wrong.
Stephan