Photoshop Newbie needs help.

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Peter Kopala
Jan 25, 2005
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Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need to is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it white, but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the wire if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?

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Peter Kopala
Jan 25, 2005
"Peter Kopala" wrote in message
Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need to is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it white, but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the wire if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?

Typo, not being, supposed to be *behind*
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Scruff
Jan 25, 2005
"Peter Kopala" wrote in message
"Peter Kopala" wrote in message
Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need
to
is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it
white,
but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the
wire
if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?
Did you *try* it?
MR
Mike Russell
Jan 26, 2005
Peter Kopala wrote:
Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need to is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it white, but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the wire if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?

Wire removal is usually done just using the clone tool in Photoshop – only one image is required. Make the tool slightly wider than the wire, alt click next to the wire, and then start cloning by painting along the length of the wire. Holding the shift key down and clicking is a technique that will get rid of wires in a hurry.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
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postman delivers
Jan 26, 2005
"Mike Russell" wrote in message
Peter Kopala wrote:
Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need to is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it white, but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the wire if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?

Wire removal is usually done just using the clone tool in Photoshop – only one image is required. Make the tool slightly wider than the wire, alt click next to the wire, and then start cloning by painting along the
length
of the wire. Holding the shift key down and clicking is a technique that will get rid of wires in a hurry.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

Maybe the heal brush would be helpful in masking the wire…

JR the postman
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Mike Russell
Jan 26, 2005
Peter Kopala wrote:
Hi, I am doing stop motion. And need to found out how to do a certain thing with photoshop. I know you can do this, but don’t know how. Wut i want to do is make an object fly, Well from what I read, what you need to is take a picture with ur camera still, then take another one with the camera unmoved with the object plus what ever it is attached (wire) to apear floating. From this I heard by using the picture with out anything in it, u can erase the wire in the second picture without making it white, but when you erase it, you will see what would actually be being the wire if the wire wasnt there. Can anyone help?

After re-reading your post, I realized that use of the clone tool alone is not sufficient for stop motion, if the background is complex you’ll get moving artifacts where the wires were cloned over.

So yes, the technique as you describe would generally need two images – one showing the area behind the wires exactly as it needs to appear in the final stopmotion. The simplest method would be to combine the two images as layers, with the wire version in front, and then use the eraser to remove the wires, revealing the wire-free background behind them. Or put the background image on top, and use a layer mask to superimpose the area needed to remove the wires. Using a mask has the advantage that you may copy and paste the background layer over the next image and you only have to clean up the places that have changed, or move the mask layer to track the object. This is the reason, BTW, that the alpha channel was invented.

If you are using Premiere, and the camera is not moving much, export multiple (as many as your system’s memory will hold) frames from the movie at a time as a filmstrip, and process all the frames on a single image.

By this method, you’ll need to yank your suspended object out of every other frame as the camera moves, or recreate the camera movement exactly later on. If you can do that, and the animated object is not interracting significantly with objects in the background, you may be able to save some work by using a blue or green screen instead. To do this, shoot your moving object against the screen, then duplicate the camera moves for the background shot. Now all you need to do is clone out the wires, and then matte your moving object against the background. With luck and a little lighting, you may be able to physically paint out the wires to match the screen color. If you do several layers of this, move over George Lucas! —

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

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