Adobe FINALLY tells the truth

From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32669.html

Adobe Systems Inc. (finally) acknowledged yesterday (Thursday, January 24, 2004) it had added technology to its popular Photoshop graphics software

the request of government regulators and bankers to prevent consumers from making copies of the world’s major currencies.

This is last weeks news.
Please, try and keep up.
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Ron.

"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman Russell Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."

There’s no harm pointing out what’s going on to people who aren’t as up to date as you.

"montane" wrote in news:5rOdnS6hTrhk-
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"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman

Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."

Well, that’s okay. The pirates already know all they need to, and the

to remove your anti-consumer foolishness came out about a week after the crap was discovered.

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"montane" wrote in news:5rOdnS6hTrhk-
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"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman

Russell

Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."

Well, that’s okay. The pirates already know all they need to, and the

pacth

to remove your anti-consumer foolishness came out about a week after the crap was discovered.

I was reading a thread at the Digital Photography Review forum and someone pointed out that the patch to get around CS activation came out a month before the final version of CS was released. You’ve got to wonder if these "security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"montane" wrote in news:5rOdnS6hTrhk-
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"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman

Russell

Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."

Well, that’s okay. The pirates already know all they need to, and the

pacth

to remove your anti-consumer foolishness came out about a week after the crap was discovered.

I was reading a thread at the Digital Photography Review forum and someone pointed out that the patch to get around CS activation came out a month before the final version of CS was released. You’ve got to wonder if these "security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

You’ve got to wonder if these
"security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

No, it has to do with their revenue stream. of course, they haven’t come out and said this, but how about if, in two years time, if you need to reactivate your copy of CS and they say, "we only reactivate the upgrade to CS 2"?

Hecate

This is last weeks news.
Please, try and keep up.
—

Ron.

There’s no harm pointing out what’s going on to people who aren’t as up to date as you.

…

… the patch to get around CS activation came out a month before the final version of CS was released. You’ve got to wonder if these "security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

No, it has to do with their revenue stream. of course, they haven’t come out and said this, but how about if, in two years time, if you need to reactivate your copy of CS and they say, "we only reactivate the upgrade to CS 2"?

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Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui

This is last weeks news.

Please, try and keep up.
—

Ron.

montane wrote in message

From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32669.html

Adobe Systems Inc. (finally) acknowledged yesterday (Thursday, January 24, 2004) it had added technology to its popular Photoshop graphics software

at

the request of government regulators and bankers to prevent consumers from making copies of the world’s major currencies.

You’ve got to wonder if these
"security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

No, it has to do with their revenue stream. of course, they haven’t come out and said this, but how about if, in two years time, if you need to reactivate your copy of CS and they say, "we only reactivate the upgrade to CS 2"?

Hecate

Then I suppose customers are forced to pay again for the new version or try to find patches for their current programs. It still doesn’t make any sense to me… what’s wrong then with using a black market patch to reinstall CS software that is legitimately licensed? Either we’re missing something here or Adobe didn’t think this through too carefully. ~Doc

From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32669.html

Adobe Systems Inc. (finally) acknowledged yesterday (Thursday, January 24, 2004) it had added technology to its popular Photoshop graphics software

the request of government regulators and bankers to prevent consumers from making copies of the world’s major currencies.

Adobe, the world’s leading vendor for graphics software, said the technology, which generates a warning message when someone tries to make digital copies of some currencies, "would have minimal impact on honest customers."

The technology was designed recently by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group, a consortium of 27 central banks in the United States, Japan, Canada and Europe.

"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman Russell Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."
Rival graphics software by Taiwan-based Ulead Systems Inc. also blocks customers from making copies of currency.

Experts said the decision by Adobe represents one of the rare occasions

the U.S. technology industry has agreed to include third-party software

into commercial products at the request of government and finance

Adobe revealed it added the technology after a customer complained in an online support forum about mysterious behavior by the new $649 "Photoshop CS" software when opening an image of a $20 bill.

Angry customers have filled Adobe’s Internet message boards with

about censorship and concerns over future restrictions on other types of images, such as copyrighted or adult material.

"This shocks me," said Stephen M. Burns, president of the Photoshop users group in San Diego. "Artists don’t like to be limited in what they can do with their tools. Let the U.S. government or whoever is involved deal with this, but don’t take the powers of the government and place them into a commercial software package."

There is no way in hell activation had anything to do with marketing. There is no way they could put a positive spin on activation as something that a consumer wants, needs and deserves.

It came from higher up. People that want try and make sure that they get every cent they "think" they have coming. That and the investors who are just greedy SOB’s.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:53:23 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" wrote:

You’ve got to wonder if these
"security measures" have anything to do with piracy at all.

No, it has to do with their revenue stream. of course, they haven’t come out and said this, but how about if, in two years time, if you need to reactivate your copy of CS and they say, "we only reactivate the upgrade to CS 2"?

Hecate

Then I suppose customers are forced to pay again for the new version or

to find patches for their current programs. It still doesn’t make any

to me… what’s wrong then with using a black market patch to reinstall

software that is legitimately licensed? Either we’re missing something

or Adobe didn’t think this through too carefully. ~Doc

Nothing wrong with using a patch except you’re altering their product and the license makes it illegal and you’re forced to become a criminal just to use your own, licensed software.

As the old saying goes " When it becomes criminal to own a firearm only the criminals will have them" guess it applies to more than guns.
SD

I prefer to think of it this way:

When it becomes criminal to own firearms the government will have come to consider all citizens criminals.

In a free society I don’t think it is safe for ONLY agents of the government to be armed. Beware the jackbooted storm troopers.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:26:40 GMT, -xiray- wrote:

I prefer to think of it this way:

When it becomes criminal to own firearms the government will have come to consider all citizens criminals.

In a free society I don’t think it is safe for ONLY agents of the government to be armed. Beware the jackbooted storm troopers.

Presumably, you’re an American?

Many countries have done very well without having a love-affair with personal firearms.

They haven’t become the Top Kick-Ass Country that America is, of course 🙂 Yee-Haw!

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:26:40 GMT, -xiray- wrote:

I prefer to think of it this way:

When it becomes criminal to own firearms the government will have come to consider all citizens criminals.

In a free society I don’t think it is safe for ONLY agents of the government to be armed. Beware the jackbooted storm troopers.

Presumably, you’re an American?

Many countries have done very well without having a love-affair with personal firearms.

Montane,
I for one, appreciate your sticking your neck out, to make this post. This was the first I had heard of it, even though it is old news, as some have

eloquently stated. I find that I have little time to keep up with what the software manufactures are up to. I work with the, DOD, quite a bit, and really this is not a big deal. If someone can do it, someone else can undo it, as a general rule. A lot of other things, along those lines, have, and will, go into place, some of which a great deal more intrusive. Its bad,

its like a runaway freight train, its too late to stop it now.
DjD
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"montane" wrote in message

From: http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32669.html

Adobe Systems Inc. (finally) acknowledged yesterday (Thursday, January

2004) it had added technology to its popular Photoshop graphics software

at

the request of government regulators and bankers to prevent consumers

making copies of the world’s major currencies.

Adobe, the world’s leading vendor for graphics software, said the technology, which generates a warning message when someone tries to make digital copies of some currencies, "would have minimal impact on honest customers."

The technology was designed recently by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group, a consortium of 27 central banks in the United States, Japan, Canada and Europe.

"We sort of knew this would come out eventually," Adobe spokesman

Brady said. "We can’t really talk about the technology itself."
Rival graphics software by Taiwan-based Ulead Systems Inc. also blocks customers from making copies of currency.

Experts said the decision by Adobe represents one of the rare occasions

when

the U.S. technology industry has agreed to include third-party software

code

into commercial products at the request of government and finance

officials.

Adobe revealed it added the technology after a customer complained in an online support forum about mysterious behavior by the new $649

CS" software when opening an image of a $20 bill.

Angry customers have filled Adobe’s Internet message boards with

complaints

about censorship and concerns over future restrictions on other types of images, such as copyrighted or adult material.

"This shocks me," said Stephen M. Burns, president of the Photoshop

group in San Diego. "Artists don’t like to be limited in what they can

with their tools. Let the U.S. government or whoever is involved deal

this, but don’t take the powers of the government and place them into a commercial software package."

I’ve heard there are work arounds for the money thing, but I haven’t found any.

Don’t forget that the UK government banned the ownership of most guns forcing people with legal firearms licences to hand in their guns and what has happened? Gun crime has increased, it has now become a fashion accessory to the "gangstas" in the city’s to carry a gun and drive by shootings and home invasions in the countryside have also increased 🙁

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:26:40 GMT, -xiray- wrote:

I prefer to think of it this way:

When it becomes criminal to own firearms the government will have come to consider all citizens criminals.

In a free society I don’t think it is safe for ONLY agents of the government to be armed. Beware the jackbooted storm troopers.

Presumably, you’re an American?

Many countries have done very well without having a love-affair with personal firearms.

Don’t forget that the UK government banned the ownership of most guns forcing people with legal firearms licences to hand in their guns and what has happened? Gun crime has increased, it has now become a fashion accessory to the "gangstas" in the city’s to carry a gun and drive by shootings and home invasions in the countryside have also increased 🙁

Therefore "post hoc ergo propter hoc" is ok?

Gun crime increases because people like you post to newsgroups. How much has it increased since you started posting?

Can we return to Adobe, please?

"Michael J Davis" <?.?@trustsof.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

Therefore "post hoc ergo propter hoc" is ok?

Gun crime increases because people like you post to newsgroups. How much has it increased since you started posting?

Can we return to Adobe, please?

You can return to Adobe at anytime you want, there are plenty of threads going.
I was responding to this particular thread with regards to the situation in the UK.
By all means return to Adobe 🙂

In message <bvtic5$os6$>, Alan
😉

I just thought that a UK perspective could be valuable, but logic is required for Brits, if not for other nationalities…… but let it pass, let it pass.

😉

Anyway, isn’t Adobe a sort of mud brick? Should we be throwing them instead?