Photoshop Show blending question

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Nov 8, 2003
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In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.

When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?
– After blending, some minor details do show up, but only as a result of increase contrast. The same could be achieved with levels or curves. Trying other blending selections other than Pin Light does not improve this. Brown’s example showed dramatic detail improvement. How did he do that?

What is a good method to use blending to add more details, and yet preserve the overall tones and colors?

I expected more from Brown, but found his book disappointing. In another chapter on stitching two images for pano, his tutorial started with the two images in separate layers perfectly lined up. He never bothered to explain how to get there. How do I get there?

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DosBoss57
Nov 8, 2003
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:35:42 GMT, wrote:

In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.

When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?
– After blending, some minor details do show up, but only as a result of increase contrast. The same could be achieved with levels or curves. Trying other blending selections other than Pin Light does not improve this. Brown’s example showed dramatic detail improvement. How did he do that?

What is a good method to use blending to add more details, and yet preserve the overall tones and colors?

I expected more from Brown, but found his book disappointing. In another chapter on stitching two images for pano, his tutorial started with the two images in separate layers perfectly lined up. He never bothered to explain how to get there. How do I get there?

I think i can help you as far as cutting and pasting channels goes….Make sure your image is in RGB mode so that you can have 3 channels to start with. IMAGE>MODE and click on RGB COLOR

Can’t help you with the other stuff…sorry

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edjh
Nov 8, 2003
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In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.

When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?

What version PS? Generally when you paste into Photoshop it creates a new layer. No need to do anything to Background. Were you in 16 bit mode maybe?

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Mike Russell
Nov 8, 2003
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In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.
When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?

Channel mixing is hot stuff. One way is to select the channel in the channels palette, then create the new layer explicitly in the layers palette, then paste your already copied channel into it.

– After blending, some minor details do show up, but only as a result of increase contrast. The same could be achieved with levels or curves. Trying other blending selections other than Pin Light does not improve this. Brown’s example showed dramatic detail improvement. How did he do that?

What is a good method to use blending to add more details, and yet preserve the overall tones and colors?

There are a bunch of ways. One is to dup, convert to CMYK and channel mix some of your original RGB image into the CMYK one. Another is to use the L channel of Lab as your source of detail. Sharpen it to death, then apply it as a semi-transparent luminance layer to your original RGB image.

I expected more from Brown, but found his book disappointing. In another chapter on stitching two images for pano, his tutorial started with the two images in separate layers perfectly lined up. He never bothered to explain how to get there. How do I get there?

Lay down a grid and get the bottom layer to line up correctly, using Edit>Transform as necessary to get the verticals straight, etc. Set one layer to be 50% transparent, Select all, and Edit>Transform. A variety of functions in Transform are accessed via shift, Alt (option), and Ctrl.

If you want a little heavier lifting than Brown, try Margulis. Examples here:
http://www.ledet.com/margulis/articles.html


Mike Russell
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JP Kabala
Nov 9, 2003
I love RB’s work, but have some reservations about the book. I read it cover to cover last week. He seems to have some confusion as to the
audience makeup.
Despite some solid and sophisticated techniques it’s too quirky for pros to take
it seriously, and the concepts and presentation of them seem to take too much
core knowledge of the product for granted for it to be aimed at newbies or hobbyists.

have you watched the videos on the CD?

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In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.

When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?
– After blending, some minor details do show up, but only as a result of increase contrast. The same could be achieved with levels or curves. Trying other blending selections other than Pin Light does not improve this. Brown’s example showed dramatic detail improvement. How did he do that?

What is a good method to use blending to add more details, and yet preserve the overall tones and colors?

I expected more from Brown, but found his book disappointing. In another chapter on stitching two images for pano, his tutorial started with the two images in separate layers perfectly lined up. He never bothered to explain how to get there. How do I get there?
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belowme
Nov 9, 2003
well first off you could turn the background into a layer by double clicking on it in the layers palette. second off usually when i copy and paste something it usally paste’s it right where it came out of the picture at sounds like he knows what hes talking about you just need some more experience. it’ll come with time.
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In Russell Brown’s Photoshop Show book, there is a chapter on blending for better details. In summary: choose a channel with the most details, copy and paste this channel as a top new layer, blend with Pin Light to the bottom layers, and adjust opacity as needed.

When I tried this, I came across several problems:
– If there is only a single background layer to start with, I can’t copy and paste a channel to create a new layer. I have to duplicate the background layer to do so. How did Brown do it with a single background layer in his tutorial?
– After blending, some minor details do show up, but only as a result of increase contrast. The same could be achieved with levels or curves. Trying other blending selections other than Pin Light does not improve this. Brown’s example showed dramatic detail improvement. How did he do that?

What is a good method to use blending to add more details, and yet preserve the overall tones and colors?

I expected more from Brown, but found his book disappointing. In another chapter on stitching two images for pano, his tutorial started with the two images in separate layers perfectly lined up. He never bothered to explain how to get there. How do I get there?

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