Tick tock – February 1st cometh

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broga
Feb 2, 2004
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Feb 1st – will be the end of ng shortcut questions cos all owners of dead warez will download the latest version – with the keyboard shortcut fixed. Probably not what Adobe intended !!

In any case it appears from other contributions to this ng that the time limiter is a fairly simple beast and easily outwitted.

It would seem from experience that most software protection is eventually doomed to fail because as quickly as the company’s small team of geeks write it in, thousands of geeks in the rest of the world – for all sorts of reasons – try to write it out again.
There are some folk who see restrictions of any sort as an infringement of their liberty but most of us just hate the inconvenience it causes us. I can’t remember how many times I lost my serial for Win98. It used to take me longer to find the serial than do the (frequent) re-install. And I had to phone Adobe for the last 3 digits before I could install PS on my new machine. My pet hates at the moment are regional DVDs and CDs that are designed not to play in computers – neither of which actually work but just make peoples lives more difficult

Oh yes I nearly forgot – my local supermarket has purchased a number of small trollies – to make my shopping experience easier – so they say – then they chained them all together so you need a pound coin to release them – so if you haven’t got a pound coin in your change you end up with a huge trolley with the steering of a drunken elephant – just to make my shopping experience more miserable – presumably?


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Peter Booth
Feb 2, 2004
You’re not one of those people who go to supermarkets without any actual cash money and hold the queue up while you bugger around with your pin bloody number that doesn’t always bloody work and did I mention ,hold up people with actual money, Well are you ? Only kidding matey I know I’m getting to be in the smallest proportion of any western population nowadays with a "jingle in me pocket"
"broga" <ian’@(remove to e-mail)micromountain.com> wrote in message
Feb 1st – will be the end of ng shortcut questions cos all owners of dead warez will download the latest version – with the keyboard shortcut fixed. Probably not what Adobe intended !!

In any case it appears from other contributions to this ng that the time limiter is a fairly simple beast and easily outwitted.

It would seem from experience that most software protection is eventually doomed to fail because as quickly as the company’s small team of geeks
write
it in, thousands of geeks in the rest of the world – for all sorts of reasons – try to write it out again.
There are some folk who see restrictions of any sort as an infringement of their liberty but most of us just hate the inconvenience it causes us. I can’t remember how many times I lost my serial for Win98. It used to take me longer to find the serial than do the (frequent) re-install. And I had to phone Adobe for the last 3 digits before I could install PS on my new machine. My pet hates at the moment are regional DVDs and CDs that are designed not to play in computers – neither of which actually work but
just
make peoples lives more difficult

Oh yes I nearly forgot – my local supermarket has purchased a number of small trollies – to make my shopping experience easier – so they say –
then
they chained them all together so you need a pound coin to release them –
so
if you haven’t got a pound coin in your change you end up with a huge trolley with the steering of a drunken elephant – just to make my shopping experience more miserable – presumably?


www.micromountain.com

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stoner
Feb 2, 2004
I ‘tink meester broga doo droga

Peter Booth wrote:

You’re not one of those people who go to supermarkets without any actual cash money and hold the queue up while you bugger around with your pin bloody number that doesn’t always bloody work and did I mention ,hold up people with actual money, Well are you ? Only kidding matey I know I’m getting to be in the smallest proportion of any western population nowadays with a "jingle in me pocket"
"broga" <ian’@(remove to e-mail)micromountain.com> wrote in message
Feb 1st – will be the end of ng shortcut questions cos all owners of dead warez will download the latest version – with the keyboard shortcut fixed. Probably not what Adobe intended !!

In any case it appears from other contributions to this ng that the time limiter is a fairly simple beast and easily outwitted.

It would seem from experience that most software protection is eventually doomed to fail because as quickly as the company’s small team of geeks
write
it in, thousands of geeks in the rest of the world – for all sorts of reasons – try to write it out again.
There are some folk who see restrictions of any sort as an infringement of their liberty but most of us just hate the inconvenience it causes us. I can’t remember how many times I lost my serial for Win98. It used to take me longer to find the serial than do the (frequent) re-install. And I had to phone Adobe for the last 3 digits before I could install PS on my new machine. My pet hates at the moment are regional DVDs and CDs that are designed not to play in computers – neither of which actually work but
just
make peoples lives more difficult

Oh yes I nearly forgot – my local supermarket has purchased a number of small trollies – to make my shopping experience easier – so they say –
then
they chained them all together so you need a pound coin to release them –
so
if you haven’t got a pound coin in your change you end up with a huge trolley with the steering of a drunken elephant – just to make my shopping experience more miserable – presumably?


www.micromountain.com

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broga
Feb 2, 2004
I always pay cash – with my credit rating nobody will give me a card :-((

Actually I was trying to draw out examples where clever people invent really useful stuff then the money men get involved and bugger up a good idea.


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"Peter Booth" wrote in message
You’re not one of those people who go to supermarkets without any actual cash money and hold the queue up while you bugger around with your pin bloody number that doesn’t always bloody work and did I mention ,hold up people with actual money, Well are you ? Only kidding matey I know I’m getting to be in the smallest proportion of any western population
nowadays
with a "jingle in me pocket"
SG
Sue g
Feb 3, 2004
"broga" <ian’@(remove to e-mail)micromountain.com> wrote in news:bvkfkp$m4a$:

My pet hates at
the moment are regional DVDs and CDs that are designed not to play in computers – neither of which actually work but just make peoples lives more difficult

I’m with you there…the whole region thing seems designed to force
ordinary people into hacks and cracks. I live in Australia but buy UK computer mags sometimes with dvds attached. I also naturally want to play OZ DVDS from our local video shop. Now I am running into warnings about "only one more region change"…I feel really annoyed as I still want to use both regions…I can’t think that this is what the original intention was but it is certainly sending me looking for region killers etc and I really don’t think I should have to be doing this.

I used to be a very law abiding citizen..until I got a computer!!

The shopping trolley idea hasn’t made it to OZ yet but I have experienced it in England and can see more point to it than the region codes I must confess. Having just seen a trolley adorning the sides of a local creek (stream) I am beginning to think we could do with such a scheme here!

Sue g
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Alan
Feb 3, 2004
Sue,
If it is your computers DVD that is coming up with the one more set, use this programme
http://www.dvdidle.net/

I use it on my laptop, it disables the region coding, stops the countdown of region changes and also removes Macrovision

If it is your home DVD player, go to
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdhacks
and see if your player is hackable

"Sue g" wrote in message
"broga" <ian’@(remove to e-mail)micromountain.com> wrote in news:bvkfkp$m4a$:

My pet hates at
the moment are regional DVDs and CDs that are designed not to play in computers – neither of which actually work but just make peoples lives more difficult

I’m with you there…the whole region thing seems designed to force
ordinary people into hacks and cracks. I live in Australia but buy UK computer mags sometimes with dvds attached. I also naturally want to play OZ DVDS from our local video shop. Now I am running into warnings about "only one more region change"…I feel really annoyed as I still want to use both regions…I can’t think that this is what the original intention was but it is certainly sending me looking for region killers etc and I really don’t think I should have to be doing this.

I used to be a very law abiding citizen..until I got a computer!!
The shopping trolley idea hasn’t made it to OZ yet but I have experienced it in England and can see more point to it than the region codes I must confess. Having just seen a trolley adorning the sides of a local creek (stream) I am beginning to think we could do with such a scheme here!
Sue g
SG
Sue g
Feb 3, 2004
"Alan" wrote in
news:bvnlhl$krk$:

http://www.dvdidle.net/

Thanks Alan I could give that a go but I basically object to having to spend nearly $100 Australian to do something that I feel I ought to be able to do anyway. I’m sure that I’m not the only Aussie who finds that a lot of the DVDs they want to play are from the UK and in the case of Computer and Graphics magazine DVDs such as these it’s hardly a case of us getting a sneak preview of a movie that hasnn’t been released yet which is what the region code is supposed to be about I think. The magazines take an age to get to us, cost more and we can’t even enter the competitions ..whoops I shouldn’t have got started on this as I could rave on forever!!Perhaps I should give up the mags and stop complaining but a lot of them have no equivalent in Oz and better content than the local ones…besides I am hooked on them!!! Sue G
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Alan
Feb 3, 2004
"Sue g" wrote in message
"Alan" wrote in
news:bvnlhl$krk$:

http://www.dvdidle.net/

Thanks Alan I could give that a go but I basically object to having to spend nearly $100 Australian to do something that I feel I ought to be able to do anyway. I’m sure that I’m not the only Aussie who finds that a lot of the DVDs they want to play are from the UK and in the case of Computer and Graphics magazine DVDs such as these it’s hardly a case of us getting a sneak preview of a movie that hasnn’t been released yet which is what the region code is supposed to be about I think. The magazines take an age to get to us, cost more and we can’t even enter the competitions ..whoops I shouldn’t have got started on this as I could rave on forever!!Perhaps I should give up the mags and stop complaining but a lot of them have no equivalent in Oz and better content than the local ones…besides I am hooked on them!!! Sue G

Sue,
there might be a place on the Internet which has a region hack for your computers player.
Its the same for me, as the majority of my DVD’s are Region 1 (USA) versions, so have had to get the region free for the laptop and hacked the two DVD stand alone players.
In the UK you pay a lot more for the films, and have to wait months for them to come out, with less extras to fit in the alternative languages which I will NEVER need (rant, grumble…)
fortunately, the players are all easily hacked 🙂
SG
Sue g
Feb 4, 2004
"Alan" wrote in
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Thanks Alan
I am thinking about doing this…but resent being forced "underground" as it were.
Sue,

there might be a place on the Internet which has a region hack for your computers player.
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broga
Feb 4, 2004
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.
Large companies clamour for a global market place so they can sell their goods anywhere.
When comsumers want a global market place so we can *buy* goods anywhere they do everything they can to stop it.


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"Sue g" wrote in message
"Alan" wrote in
news:bvoihr$5fs$:

Thanks Alan
I am thinking about doing this…but resent being forced "underground" as it were.
Sue,

there might be a place on the Internet which has a region hack for your computers player.
I
SG
Sue g
Feb 5, 2004
"broga" <ian’@(remove to e-mail)micromountain.com> wrote in news:bvpig1$j4s $:

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.
Large companies clamour for a global market place so they can sell their goods anywhere.
When comsumers want a global market place so we can *buy* goods anywhere they do everything they can to stop it.

Too right! Global when it comes to these multinationals paying their taxes and regional when it comes to these codes etc.Seems they’re having a bet each way.In fact I don’t feel that morally I would be doing anything wrong but I’m a bit wary of warez and viruses and worms and all that!! Also I dont want to inadvetently invalidate warranties etc. Sue G

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