CS is driving me crazy

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Feb 15, 2004
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I have posted this message before but I will try again. When I use CS, and do any image correction, such as setting levels or cropping, and try to save a file in another format, e.g. jpeg to tiff, or tiff to jpeg or jpeg to PSD and back to tiff, the saved version often will not open if I log off CS, unless I log on and use "Open Recent". That is, the saved version appears in the folder that I saved it in as an icon with colored dots( not as a tiff icon file, or a jpeg icon file) that will not open. That is, when I try to access it directly from CS (unless I use "Open Recent,") I get an error message "cannot open, not a proper file." If I shut down my PC, and reboot, I can’t access the new file at all. This never happened on Photoshop 7.0, which I have uninstalled. I am tempted to install it again, but if I did, I would not be able to use my favorite CS feature, the Shadow-Highlight fixer. Help, please

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Alberich
Feb 15, 2004
In article ,
says…
I have posted this message before but I will try again. When I use CS, and do any image correction, such as setting levels or cropping, and try to save a file in another format, e.g. jpeg to tiff, or tiff to jpeg or jpeg to PSD and back to tiff, the saved version often will not open if I log off CS, unless I log on and use "Open Recent". That is, the saved version appears in the folder that I saved it in as an icon with colored dots( not as a tiff icon file, or a jpeg icon file) that will not open. That is, when I try to access it directly from CS (unless I use "Open Recent,") I get an error message "cannot open, not a proper file." If I shut down my PC, and reboot, I can’t access the new file at all. This never happened on Photoshop 7.0, which I have uninstalled. I am tempted to install it again, but if I did, I would not be able to use my favorite CS feature, the Shadow-Highlight fixer. Help, please

Have you ever heard of adjustment layers? Create an adjustment layer fixing the highlight on one image. Then create another adjustment layer fixing the shadows for the same image.

Now, with those two adjustment layers open…import other images onto the workspace. Move the new images out of the way from the one you made the adjustment layers on. Now…drag and drop those adjustment layers you made onto the new images. What happens? The adjustment layers you made and drag and dropped onto the new images automatically fixes the shadows and highlights of those new images. But don’t credit me for helping you with this trick using your "old" copy of Photoshop 7.0 which has NO activation lock schemes built in. It comes from a Photoshop book you can buy from your local Barnes and Noble or Borders called "The Photoshop CS book" edited by Scott Kelby, editor of Photoshop User magazine, from New Riders publisher. Great book and I still get value from it even though I still have "old" Photoshop 7.0.

The vaunted type on a path feature in Photoshop CS? You have Illustrator? Simple solution: create the type on a path in Illustrator. Export the path to Photoshop as a new layer. Problem solved.

The newly touted Photoshop CS Camera Raw filter? I personally don’t have this on my copy of Photoshop 7…I came too late to get that because I wasn’t quick enough buying the one they offered on the Adobe store for 99 bucks before CS came out. But…from what I’m reading on the forums…the feature is scattershot. You STILL have to rely on the different manufacturer’s specifications with their software drivers to even be able to see the RAW images in the first place. Nowhere in all the talk about this "new" feature in CS have I heard ANYONE say it REPLACES…the proprietary technologies these digital cameras use to help you process the images onto your computer. If it did THAT…I would have swallowed my pride and paid the price of activation to get this. But that’s NOT the case. I can STILL use Photoshop 7 to import RAW images. And about that new feature in Photoshop CS working in 16 color mode? It’s not fully implemented in Photoshop CS. And even if it was..you mean to tell me I can’t make great artwork and images using RGB or CMYK mode in Photoshop 7.0?

Oh, but what about the new feature in the Layer palatte? Like being able to save layer comps with different images in different layer sets? And saving history states in a file? Okay…there ARE features I’ll miss having by not getting the Photoshop CS upgrade. But people have been using "inferior" versions of Photoshop for years before these new "must get" features even came on the scenes for a long time now. I don’t begrudge anyone for deciding to stick with their old versions of Photoshop simply because Adobe comes out with newer and supposedly better versions. But the real kicker is this activation technology. I have no intention of being at the mercy of Adobe about when or where I install their software. Especially if I’ve legally purchased their software at retail outlets that sell their software. I refuse to be at the mercy of tech support people asking me WHY I need to replace my video card or replace my hard drive in order to continue using their software. I’m sorry…but that’s an intrusion I’m not going to allow.

Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is the last version of Photoshop I’ll ever purchase with my hard earned money. Activation technology puts me off and I’m not falling for it. I’m now investigating alternatives like Jasc PaintShop Pro 8 and Corel Painter 12. Any product that has activation technology built in is something I have no intention of buying. Because the next logical step in this corporate tyranny is subscription versions of software. Imagine shelling out hundreds of dollars a YEAR…to continue using software you purchased years ago…like Photoshop. I’m not going there. Period. And I doubt people so sanguine about activation now will be so sanguine when THAT happens.
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nospam
Feb 15, 2004
On 2004-02-15, Alberich wrote:
The newly touted Photoshop CS Camera Raw filter? I personally don’t have this on my copy of Photoshop 7…I came too late to get that because I wasn’t quick enough buying the one they offered on the Adobe store for 99 bucks before CS came out. But…from what I’m reading on the forums…the feature is scattershot. You STILL have to rely on the different manufacturer’s specifications with their software drivers to even be able to see the RAW images in the first place. Nowhere in all the talk about this "new" feature in CS have I heard ANYONE say it REPLACES…the proprietary technologies these digital cameras use to help you process the images onto your computer. If it did THAT…I would have swallowed my pride and paid the price of activation to get this. But that’s NOT the case. I can STILL use Photoshop 7 to import RAW images. And about that new feature in Photoshop CS working in 16 color mode? It’s not fully implemented in Photoshop CS. And even if it was..you mean to tell me I can’t make great artwork and images using RGB or CMYK mode in Photoshop 7.0?

You are WRONG. Photoshop CS implements its own raw converter (at least for Canon RAW), and probably for ythe others as well. It produces worse results than C1 Rebel and the Canon FVU, so it surely is not their DLLs it uses.

Most notable is, that it adds blue to red colors, and solid red and orange colors oversaturate when importing, while other colors might be less vibrant. But it is faster than C1 Rebel / Canon FVU.

Read somewhere that it is based on dcraw, the Open Sorce raw converter.

Oh, but what about the new feature in the Layer palatte? Like being able to save layer comps with different images in different layer sets? And saving history states in a file? Okay…there ARE features I’ll miss having by not getting the Photoshop CS upgrade. But people have been using "inferior" versions of Photoshop for years before these new "must get" features even came on the scenes for a long time now. I don’t begrudge anyone for deciding to stick with their old versions of Photoshop simply because Adobe comes out with newer and supposedly better versions. But the real kicker is this activation technology. I have no intention of being at the mercy of Adobe about when or where I install their software. Especially if I’ve legally purchased their software at retail outlets that sell their software. I refuse to be at the mercy of tech support people asking me WHY I need to replace my video card or replace my hard drive in order to continue using their software. I’m sorry…but that’s an intrusion I’m not going to allow.

Move to a country of liberty and freedom. Move to a country where you can install the activation crack if you want. Move to a country where Adobe not being willing to activate as many time as you want is a breach of the perpetual license. Or get your government to look at the needs of the people rather than the big donators (companies).

Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is the last version of Photoshop I’ll ever purchase with my hard earned money. Activation technology puts me off and I’m not falling for it. I’m now investigating alternatives like Jasc PaintShop Pro 8 and Corel Painter 12. Any product that has activation technology built in is something I have no intention of buying. Because the next logical step in this corporate tyranny is subscription versions of software. Imagine shelling out hundreds of dollars a YEAR…to continue using software you purchased years ago…like Photoshop. I’m not going there. Period. And I doubt people so sanguine about activation now will be so sanguine when THAT happens.

There is no activation in Photoshop CS, only if you buy the wrong version. Only the PC workstation license has activation. The enterprise agreement version doesn’t. Neither does the Macintosh version.

It is just the criminal PC users that make Adobe do this. Copy protection and activation is not free.
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Bobby Dogg
Feb 15, 2004
Hear hear
"Alberich" wrote in message
In article ,
says…
I have posted this message before but I will try again. When I use CS,
and do
any image correction, such as setting levels or cropping, and try to
save a
file in another format, e.g. jpeg to tiff, or tiff to jpeg or jpeg to
PSD and
back to tiff, the saved version often will not open if I log off CS,
unless I
log on and use "Open Recent". That is, the saved version appears in the
folder
that I saved it in as an icon with colored dots( not as a tiff icon
file, or a
jpeg icon file) that will not open. That is, when I try to access it
directly
from CS (unless I use "Open Recent,") I get an error message "cannot
open, not
a proper file." If I shut down my PC, and reboot, I can’t access the
new file
at all. This never happened on Photoshop 7.0, which I have uninstalled.
I am
tempted to install it again, but if I did, I would not be able to use my favorite CS feature, the Shadow-Highlight fixer. Help, please

Have you ever heard of adjustment layers? Create an adjustment layer fixing the highlight on one image. Then create another adjustment layer fixing the shadows for the same image.

Now, with those two adjustment layers open…import other images onto the workspace. Move the new images out of the way from the one you made the adjustment layers on. Now…drag and drop those adjustment layers you made onto the new images. What happens? The adjustment layers you made and drag and dropped onto the new images automatically fixes the shadows and highlights of those new images. But don’t credit me for helping you with this trick using your "old" copy of Photoshop 7.0 which has NO activation lock schemes built in. It comes from a Photoshop book you can buy from your local Barnes and Noble or Borders called "The Photoshop CS book" edited by Scott Kelby, editor of Photoshop User magazine, from New Riders publisher. Great book and I still get value from it even though I still have "old" Photoshop 7.0.
The vaunted type on a path feature in Photoshop CS? You have Illustrator? Simple solution: create the type on a path in Illustrator. Export the path to Photoshop as a new layer. Problem solved.
The newly touted Photoshop CS Camera Raw filter? I personally don’t have this on my copy of Photoshop 7…I came too late to get that because I wasn’t quick enough buying the one they offered on the Adobe store for 99 bucks before CS came out. But…from what I’m reading on the forums…the feature is scattershot. You STILL have to rely on the different manufacturer’s specifications with their software drivers to even be able to see the RAW images in the first place. Nowhere in all the talk about this "new" feature in CS have I heard ANYONE say it REPLACES…the proprietary technologies these digital cameras use to help you process the images onto your computer. If it did THAT…I would have swallowed my pride and paid the price of activation to get this. But that’s NOT the case. I can STILL use Photoshop 7 to import RAW images. And about that new feature in Photoshop CS working in 16 color mode? It’s not fully implemented in Photoshop CS. And even if it was..you mean to tell me I can’t make great artwork and images using RGB or CMYK mode in Photoshop 7.0?

Oh, but what about the new feature in the Layer palatte? Like being able to save layer comps with different images in different layer sets? And saving history states in a file? Okay…there ARE features I’ll miss having by not getting the Photoshop CS upgrade. But people have been using "inferior" versions of Photoshop for years before these new "must get" features even came on the scenes for a long time now. I don’t begrudge anyone for deciding to stick with their old versions of Photoshop simply because Adobe comes out with newer and supposedly better versions. But the real kicker is this activation technology. I have no intention of being at the mercy of Adobe about when or where I install their software. Especially if I’ve legally purchased their software at retail outlets that sell their software. I refuse to be at the mercy of tech support people asking me WHY I need to replace my video card or replace my hard drive in order to continue using their software. I’m sorry…but that’s an intrusion I’m not going to allow.
Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is the last version of Photoshop I’ll ever purchase with my hard earned money. Activation technology puts me off and I’m not falling for it. I’m now investigating alternatives like Jasc PaintShop Pro 8 and Corel Painter 12. Any product that has activation technology built in is something I have no intention of buying. Because the next logical step in this corporate tyranny is subscription versions of software. Imagine shelling out hundreds of dollars a YEAR…to continue using software you purchased years ago…like Photoshop. I’m not going there. Period. And I doubt people so sanguine about activation now will be so sanguine when THAT happens.
K
KBob
Feb 16, 2004
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:31:42 +0000 (UTC), "Povl H. Pedersen" wrote:

On 2004-02-15, Alberich wrote:
The newly touted Photoshop CS Camera Raw filter? I personally don’t have this on my copy of Photoshop 7…I came too late to get that because I wasn’t quick enough buying the one they offered on the Adobe store for 99 bucks before CS came out. But…from what I’m reading on the forums…the feature is scattershot. You STILL have to rely on the different manufacturer’s specifications with their software drivers to even be able to see the RAW images in the first place. Nowhere in all the talk about this "new" feature in CS have I heard ANYONE say it REPLACES…the proprietary technologies these digital cameras use to help you process the images onto your computer. If it did THAT…I would have swallowed my pride and paid the price of activation to get this. But that’s NOT the case. I can STILL use Photoshop 7 to import RAW images. And about that new feature in Photoshop CS working in 16 color mode? It’s not fully implemented in Photoshop CS. And even if it was..you mean to tell me I can’t make great artwork and images using RGB or CMYK mode in Photoshop 7.0?

You are WRONG. Photoshop CS implements its own raw converter (at least for Canon RAW), and probably for ythe others as well. It produces worse results than C1 Rebel and the Canon FVU, so it surely is not their DLLs it uses.

Most notable is, that it adds blue to red colors, and solid red and orange colors oversaturate when importing, while other colors might be less vibrant. But it is faster than C1 Rebel / Canon FVU.
Read somewhere that it is based on dcraw, the Open Sorce raw converter.
Oh, but what about the new feature in the Layer palatte? Like being able to save layer comps with different images in different layer sets? And saving history states in a file? Okay…there ARE features I’ll miss having by not getting the Photoshop CS upgrade. But people have been using "inferior" versions of Photoshop for years before these new "must get" features even came on the scenes for a long time now. I don’t begrudge anyone for deciding to stick with their old versions of Photoshop simply because Adobe comes out with newer and supposedly better versions. But the real kicker is this activation technology. I have no intention of being at the mercy of Adobe about when or where I install their software. Especially if I’ve legally purchased their software at retail outlets that sell their software. I refuse to be at the mercy of tech support people asking me WHY I need to replace my video card or replace my hard drive in order to continue using their software. I’m sorry…but that’s an intrusion I’m not going to allow.

Move to a country of liberty and freedom. Move to a country where you can install the activation crack if you want. Move to a country where Adobe not being willing to activate as many time as you want is a breach of the perpetual license. Or get your government to look at the needs of the people rather than the big donators (companies).
Adobe Photoshop 7.0 is the last version of Photoshop I’ll ever purchase with my hard earned money. Activation technology puts me off and I’m not falling for it. I’m now investigating alternatives like Jasc PaintShop Pro 8 and Corel Painter 12. Any product that has activation technology built in is something I have no intention of buying. Because the next logical step in this corporate tyranny is subscription versions of software. Imagine shelling out hundreds of dollars a YEAR…to continue using software you purchased years ago…like Photoshop. I’m not going there. Period. And I doubt people so sanguine about activation now will be so sanguine when THAT happens.

There is no activation in Photoshop CS, only if you buy the wrong version. Only the PC workstation license has activation. The enterprise agreement version doesn’t. Neither does the Macintosh version.
It is just the criminal PC users that make Adobe do this. Copy protection and activation is not free.

Also be aware that Adobe has posted a new revision to the RAW plugin furnished with CS. It is claimed to cover more cameras, and also to provide enhanced noise correction etc. Oh, and it’s free…
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trazom333
Feb 16, 2004
"Bobby Dogg"

writes:>
Have you ever heard of adjustment layers?

Thanks and thanks to others who have responded, but with respect, I don’t really want helplful hints about how to use 7.0 with adjsutment layers, or other alternatives to Photoshop. I want to solve my problem with CS. Does anyone have suggestions for that? Thanks again.
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larrybud2002
Feb 16, 2004
(ARosenblat) wrote in message news:…
I have posted this message before but I will try again. When I use CS, and do any image correction, such as setting levels or cropping, and try to save a file in another format, e.g. jpeg to tiff, or tiff to jpeg or jpeg to PSD and back to tiff, the saved version often will not open if I log off CS, unless I log on and use "Open Recent". That is, the saved version appears in the folder that I saved it in as an icon with colored dots( not as a tiff icon file, or a jpeg icon file) that will not open. That is, when I try to access it directly from CS (unless I use "Open Recent,") I get an error message "cannot open, not a proper file."

Are you doing an "Open" or "Open As" when it fails to open?

I don’t see how any changes to the file would affect whether or not a JPG or TIFF opens. JPG and TIFF don’t save photoshop specific data.
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arosenblat
Feb 16, 2004

wrote:>
I don’t see how any changes to the file would affect whether or not a JPG or TIFF opens. JPG and TIFF don’t save photoshop specific data.

Thanks. Photoshop CS seems to be doing it. I have tried "Open" and "Open As" and they don’t work.
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arosenblat
Feb 20, 2004

wrote:>When I use CS, and do
any image correction, such as setting levels or cropping, and try to save a file in another format, e.g. jpeg to tiff, or tiff to jpeg or jpeg to PSD and back to tiff, the saved version often will not open if I log off CS, unless I log on and use "Open Recent". That is, the saved version appears in the folder
that I saved it in as an icon with colored dots( not as a tiff icon file, or a
jpeg icon file) that will not open. That is, when I try to access it directly
from CS (unless I use "Open Recent,") I get an error message "cannot open, not
a proper file." If I shut down my PC, and reboot, I can’t access the new file
at all. This never happened on Photoshop 7.0, which I have uninstalled. I am tempted to install it again, but if I did, I would not be able to use my favorite CS feature, the Shadow-Highlight fixer. Help, please

I found the solution. I just rename the file with the file name followed by a dot and "tiff" or "jpeg." Sometimes "tiff "won’t work, but saving as jpeg and
then tiff seems to work.( Thanks to a techie in my office.)

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