Color Management in CS–Help!!!

Here’s what I’ve done:

(1) Set up soft proofing for my paper profile, following Ian Lyon’s directions.
(2) Open my raw file, and import it into PS using camera raw. For these tests, I am making few or no adjustments in camera raw. (3) Adjust the image size.
(4) File–>Print with Preview
(5) Go to Page Setup to set the paper orientation and printer type. (6) In the Print dialog box, I set the source space to Document (Adobe RGB). (I’ve also tried my Proof setup–doesn’t matter in this case.) I then set the Print space to Profile: SP2200 EnhancedMatte 1440MK.icc, and the intent to relative colorimetric.
(7) I then go to Print, and
(8) set Color Management to Color Controls and Print Settings to the right media type, Advanced Settings (Photo – 1440dpi, and uncheck High Speed).
(9) At this point if i print (or even Preview), I get an image with a very pronounced magenta cast. Nothing subtle about it, it’s terrible.

(9) At this point if i print (or even Preview), I get an image with a very pronounced magenta cast. Nothing subtle about it, it’s terrible.

I’m a relatively novice PS user–in fact I started with CS. Am having a terrible problem printing color images using custom paper profiles. Here’s my setup:

Photoshop CS (8.0×119)
Mac G5 running OS X (10.3.8)
Epson 2200 printer
Apple Cinema Display monitor, calibrated using Monaco Optix Nikon D100, shooting raw images

I want to print on the 2200 using custom paper profiles, for example for Hahnemuhle rag papers. To debug things, I decided to use some of the Epson-supplied profiles for their papers, for example SP2200 EnhancedMatte 1440MK.icc. (I tried the Hahnemuhle profiles that I downloaded, and was having the same color problem, so I’ve reverted to the cheaper Epson papers for now until I get the problem solved.)
I’ve read the relevant stuff in the Photoshop CS manual, and the Classroom in a Book. I’ve also gone over the excellent tutorials on Ian Lyons computer-darkroom.com web site, and read a couple of postings by Bill Hilton on this site. The problem persists.
Basically, when I print using the Epson printer drivers, everything works just fine. But when I print (or even soft-proof) using a custom paper profile, I get that horrible magenta cast, that I’m told is typical of double color management (using both the paper .icc and the printer driver). Yet I’m pretty sure that I have turned the printer driver management off.

Here’s what I’ve done:

(1) Set up soft proofing for my paper profile, following Ian Lyon’s directions.
(2) Open my raw file, and import it into PS using camera raw. For these tests, I am making few or no adjustments in camera raw. (3) Adjust the image size.
(4) File–>Print with Preview
(5) Go to Page Setup to set the paper orientation and printer type. (6) In the Print dialog box, I set the source space to Document (Adobe RGB). (I’ve also tried my Proof setup–doesn’t matter in this case.) I then set the Print space to Profile: SP2200 EnhancedMatte 1440MK.icc, and the intent to relative colorimetric.
(7) I then go to Print, and
(8) set Color Management to Color Controls and Print Settings to the right media type, Advanced Settings (Photo – 1440dpi, and uncheck High Speed).
(9) At this point if i print (or even Preview), I get an image with a very pronounced magenta cast. Nothing subtle about it, it’s terrible.
Obviously, I’m either skipping a crucial step, or getting two settings into conflict.

"Tim Smith" wrote in message

Basically, when I print using the Epson printer drivers, everything works just fine. But when I print (or even soft-proof) using a custom paper profile, I get that horrible magenta cast, that I’m told is typical of double color management (using both the paper .icc and the printer driver). Yet I’m pretty sure that I have turned the printer driver management off.

You may have thought that your turned the printer driver management off, but you are wrong. The proper setting is No Color Management.

"Jim" wrote:

"Tim Smith" wrote in message

Basically, when I print using the Epson printer drivers, everything works just fine. But when I print (or even soft-proof) using a custom paper profile, I get that horrible magenta cast, that I’m told is typical of double color management (using both the paper .icc and the printer driver). Yet I’m pretty sure that I have turned the printer driver management off.

You may have thought that your turned the printer driver management off,

you are wrong. The proper setting is No Color Management.

You’re right, but I tried No Color Management, and I still get the same horrible magenta cast. I had tried that earlier, but forgot to mention it. I just tried it again, and still the same magenta. This one really has me scratching my head. I called a PS guru that I know, and he couldn’t solve it for me over the phone.

Is there some basic Preferences setting that I’ve mis-set? I’ve tried some things, but right now, due to my inexperience with PS, I’m just flailing around.

Tim Smith

I want to print on the 2200 using custom paper profiles, for example for Hahnemuhle rag papers. To debug things, I decided to use some of the Epson-supplied profiles for their papers, for example SP2200 EnhancedMatte 1440MK.icc. (I tried the Hahnemuhle profiles that I downloaded, and was having the same color problem, so I’ve reverted to the cheaper Epson papers for now until I get the problem solved.)
I’ve read the relevant stuff in the Photoshop CS manual, and the Classroom in a Book. I’ve also gone over the excellent tutorials on Ian Lyons computer-darkroom.com web site, and read a couple of postings by Bill Hilton on this site. The problem persists.
Basically, when I print using the Epson printer drivers, everything works just fine. But when I print (or even soft-proof) using a custom paper profile, I get that horrible magenta cast, that I’m told is typical of double color management (using both the paper .icc and the printer driver). Yet I’m pretty sure that I have turned the printer driver management off.

Tim Smith wrote:

I want to print on the 2200 using custom paper profiles, for example for Hahnemuhle rag papers. To debug things, I decided to use some of the Epson-supplied profiles for their papers, for example SP2200 EnhancedMatte 1440MK.icc. (I tried the Hahnemuhle profiles that I downloaded, and was having the same color problem, so I’ve reverted to the cheaper Epson papers for now until I get the problem solved.)

I’ve read you post again, and I notice two things. If you already see the cast in soft proof, it means the profile is wrong. Secondly, you mention a profile with ‘MK’ in the name. ‘MK’ stands for ‘Matt blacK’, meaning the matt black ink (rather than the normal photo black ink). Are you really using matt black ink? Finally, have to tried ‘Perceptual’ as intent?