Running out of resources?

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May 4, 2005
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Hello Everyone,

I am trying to create a large 96" X 36" banner for a friend. The banner has text and several photos on it.

He plans to take a disk to Kinko’s and they are going to print it on some type of material.

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources and Photoshop Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.

How would you go about creating such a large banner? Would you do it half size and have Kinko’s enlarge it? Or is there another technique?

Thanks,

Bob

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Eric Gill
May 5, 2005
"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote in
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Hello Everyone,

I am trying to create a large 96" X 36" banner for a friend.

Resolution?

The
banner has text and several photos on it.

He plans to take a disk to Kinko’s and they are going to print it on some type of material.

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources

Resources?

What version of Windows are you using?

and Photoshop
Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.
How would you go about creating such a large banner?

1) Full Photoshop.

2) More RAM.

3) Hopefully you have a fair amount of hard drive space. If not, more.

4) Windows 2K or XP.

Would you do it
half size and have Kinko’s enlarge it?

Probably your only choice, short of major upgrades.

Pray you have an exceptional Kinko’s store and they can actually manage it.

Or is there another technique?

Using something designed for the job.
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ergobob
May 5, 2005
"Eric Gill" wrote in message
"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote in
news:pbdee.544$:

Hello Everyone,

I am trying to create a large 96" X 36" banner for a friend.

Resolution?

The
banner has text and several photos on it.

He plans to take a disk to Kinko’s and they are going to print it on some type of material.

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources

Resources?

What version of Windows are you using?

and Photoshop
Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.
How would you go about creating such a large banner?

1) Full Photoshop.

2) More RAM.

3) Hopefully you have a fair amount of hard drive space. If not, more.
4) Windows 2K or XP.

Would you do it
half size and have Kinko’s enlarge it?

Probably your only choice, short of major upgrades.

Pray you have an exceptional Kinko’s store and they can actually manage it.

Or is there another technique?

Using something designed for the job.

Yeah, I know that I would like a bigger system. I am running WinXP, 512 MB RAM, Athlon 3200+, and plenty of hard drive.

It seems to be using up cpu and ram.

I was able to do the whole thing in 1/2 size though. But, I noticed that when I resized the image, the text and photos changed size depending on the resolution I selected. I did not expect that. I didn’t thing resolution would effect the size. Could you explain that?

I set it at 100 and then at 300 dpi because I was worried about quality of printing.

Does that make sense or am I off the mark?

Thanks Again,

Bob
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Eric Gill
May 5, 2005
"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote in
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Yeah, I know that I would like a bigger system.

Hard to justify if this is the only big job you’re going to do.

Putting some more RAM in – at least a total of a gig, preferably more – will breathe new life into your system a lot cheaper than replacing the whole thing.

I am running WinXP,
512 MB RAM, Athlon 3200+, and plenty of hard drive.

What is "plenty?"

It seems to be using up cpu and ram.

FYI – "System Resources" is a term Microsoft preempted. It refers to a part of memory reserved for the system. You’ll probably never have Windows XP tell you it’s out of System Resources, but you would get that constantly under the Windows 95 line.

Yeah, it’s poorly and confusingly named.

I was able to do the whole thing in 1/2 size though. But, I noticed that when I resized the image, the text and photos changed size depending on the resolution I selected. I did not expect that. I didn’t thing resolution would effect the size. Could you explain that?

Depends. What do you mean by "changed size"? They look larger at 100% screen magnification?

If so, you should expect it. 100% means 1 picture pixel = 1 screen pixel. An image that is 1 inch tall @ 100 ppi is, therefore, 100 pixels tall on your screen. An image 1 inch tall @ 300 ppi is 300 pixels tall, and so on.

I set it at 100 and then at 300 dpi because I was worried about quality of printing.

That large a banner you shouldn’t have too many worries at 100 ppi. It will be viewed far enough away no one will see the difference.

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noone
May 5, 2005
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"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote in
news:pbdee.544$:

Hello Everyone,

I am trying to create a large 96" X 36" banner for a friend.

Resolution?

The
banner has text and several photos on it.

He plans to take a disk to Kinko’s and they are going to print it on some type of material.

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources

Resources?

What version of Windows are you using?

and Photoshop
Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.
How would you go about creating such a large banner?

1) Full Photoshop.

2) More RAM.

3) Hopefully you have a fair amount of hard drive space. If not, more.
4) Windows 2K or XP.

Would you do it
half size and have Kinko’s enlarge it?

Probably your only choice, short of major upgrades.

Pray you have an exceptional Kinko’s store and they can actually manage it.

Or is there another technique?

Using something designed for the job.

Another consideration would be the file format. PS CS will allow large images to be Saved as PSB format, but then Kinkos has to have CS to read it. I don’t know what rez/color depth you are using, and have not done the math, but I do not think that you can do much in PSD. Also, do the math and see what file size you will end up with and whether it will fit on a CD, or if you need to go to a DVD.

I just did 91×51 (inches) x 200ppi on a dual-PIII with 1+TB HDD space, and 2GB RAM with CS. Getting the image to the output house was about as much work as doing the PS work.

Eric is correct, that you are trying for much more than your system and program can probably handle.

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Tacit
May 5, 2005
In article <pbdee.544$>,
"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote:

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources and Photoshop Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.
How would you go about creating such a large banner?

Not in Photoshop, that’s for sure.

Create just the images in Photoshop. Then put the banner together, add the images, and add the text in a page layout program like QuarkXPress or InDesign.


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KatWoman
May 5, 2005
If you use Quark or In Design Kinko’s most likely won’t be able to use the files.
They prefer all files in PDF format.
They also have preformatted and their own in-house format templates on their website (I think they are post script type)
ALWAYS call the print shop first to find out what type files they an use and the appropriate design info (size, res, rgb or CMYk etc) Alternately bring the images and text files and a hand drawn or your half size layout and let them set it up for print.

"Tacit" wrote in message
In article <pbdee.544$>,
"ergobob" <[REMOVE].net> wrote:

When I do a canvas of this size, I run out of resources and Photoshop Elements crashes. I have 512 MB Ram on a 3200+ Athlon system. When I do it
on a canvas that is half the size it seems to work fine.
How would you go about creating such a large banner?

Not in Photoshop, that’s for sure.

Create just the images in Photoshop. Then put the banner together, add the images, and add the text in a page layout program like QuarkXPress or InDesign.


Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
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Tacit
May 5, 2005
In article <5Suee.380$>,
"KatWoman" wrote:

If you use Quark or In Design Kinko’s most likely won’t be able to use the files.
They prefer all files in PDF format.
They also have preformatted and their own in-house format templates on their website (I think they are post script type)

I’ve had no problems giving PageMaker, Quark, and InDesign files to Kinko’s–though of course any of those programs can create a PDF.


Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
EG
Eric Gill
May 5, 2005
"KatWoman" wrote in
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If you use Quark or In Design Kinko’s most likely won’t be able to use the files.
They prefer all files in PDF format.

I ship all my files in pdf; I also use Indy and (when I can’t help it) Quark to lay them out.

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