Homemade postcards

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Alan Justice
May 6, 2005
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From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?


– Alan Justice

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William Graham
May 6, 2005
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

– Alan Justice
Why not "print" the post card part on the back of your prints? IOW, take a print, and run it through your computer’s printer, and print the post card part on the opposite side of the paper from the photograph.
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Crownfield
May 6, 2005
Alan Justice wrote:
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

alan, meet google.com.
google, meet alan

google has 150,000 answers to your question.
Results 1 – 10 of about 150,000 for inkjet postcards. (0.27 seconds)

Photographer’s Edge has postcards.
Office max and office depot also have inkjet postcards

HP makes them.
Avery makes them. 8387 White Inkjet PostCards 5.5×4.25 (200-Cards)

Snapfish does them with your pictures.
you can even get 250 for 49.99 printed for you at www.vistaprint.com

<bold>
google is amazing…
</bold>


– Alan Justice
MW
Michael Weinstein
May 6, 2005
On 2005-05-05 21:12:30 -0400, "Alan Justice" said:

From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?
The Canon CP-220 and CP-330 (the 330 runs on batteries or AC, the 220 just on AC and is $100 less) prints 4×6 plus 4×8 and 2 1/4 x 3 1/2 photos as dye sublimation prints on a waterproof, UV protected card stock. The 4×6 paper has a postcard back with a place for the stamp and all the usual lines. It is really a good little photo printer. I like its output far more than ink jet prints and the cards go through the mail just fine even if they get wet. Check them out. The CP 220 goes for about $149 and the paper runs about 19.99 for a pack of 36 cards (and this includes the ink cartridge for those prints). The 4×6 is available at Best Buy, Target, CompUSA etc. You may have to go to mail order to get the wallet size paper. I saw the 4×8 "Christmas Card" stock at Staples. Also, the cartridge that holds the 4×6 paper comes with the printer, but you need to buy the wallet size cartridge extra if you want to use that.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana
AJ
Alan Justice
May 6, 2005
Because photo paper isn’t heavy enough.


– Alan Justice

"William Graham" wrote in message
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my
photos
(tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

– Alan Justice
Why not "print" the post card part on the back of your prints? IOW, take a print, and run it through your computer’s printer, and print the post card part on the opposite side of the paper from the photograph.
AJ
Alan Justice
May 6, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
Alan Justice wrote:
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my
photos
(tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

alan, meet google.com.
google, meet alan

google has 150,000 answers to your question.
Results 1 – 10 of about 150,000 for inkjet postcards. (0.27 seconds)
Photographer’s Edge has postcards.
Office max and office depot also have inkjet postcards

HP makes them.
Avery makes them. 8387 White Inkjet PostCards 5.5×4.25 (200-Cards)
Snapfish does them with your pictures.
you can even get 250 for 49.99 printed for you at www.vistaprint.com
<bold>
google is amazing…
</bold>


– Alan Justice

So are newsgroups. And I didn’t have to wade through 150k answers, most of which are self-serving ads. This way I get answers from folks who have actual experience with them, which is much more valuable. Thanks for your reply.
WG
William Graham
May 6, 2005
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
Because photo paper isn’t heavy enough.
Not true…..My 4 x 6’s straight from the processing lab are just as stiff as the post cards I buy at the drug store. Blindfolded, I doubt if I could tell the difference…..
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jstech
May 6, 2005
try avery 8387. you can print 4 postcards to a sheet. print your picture on one side, then print the postcard area (blank then line in middle, and space for address) on the other. Both sides are printable.
"William Graham" wrote in message
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
Because photo paper isn’t heavy enough.
Not true…..My 4 x 6’s straight from the processing lab are just as stiff as the post cards I buy at the drug store. Blindfolded, I doubt if I could tell the difference…..

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TAFKAB
May 6, 2005
Not sure if you can still get them, but there’s a product called Photo A La Carte that’s a stick-on for 4×6 pix. In other words, you peel the protector off the 4×6 post card maker, stick your print on, and that’s it. 800 219 1999 or

I got the info above from my last pack of these things, so it may be out of date.

"Alan Justice" wrote in message
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

– Alan Justice

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Dean Van Praotl
May 7, 2005
"Alan Justice" apparently said:

From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

My uncle used to make exactly that: postcards direct from his negatives. That was in the 1930’s and 1940’s. He used a 3A Graflex camera, size 122 roll film that made negatives just right for contact printing as postcards. That, and there were manufacturers that made B&W papers for the purpose, with the needed stuff printed on the back. I doubt if there’s enough demand for such a product to make it possible today.
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Scrufff
May 7, 2005
Good canon photo paper is 11 mil.
Quite thick enough, and a great idea from Alan.

"Alan Justice" wrote in message
Because photo paper isn’t heavy enough.


– Alan Justice

"William Graham" wrote in message
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my
photos
(tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of
a
product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

– Alan Justice
Why not "print" the post card part on the back of your prints? IOW, take
a
print, and run it through your computer’s printer, and print the post
card
part on the opposite side of the paper from the photograph.

C
Crownfield
May 7, 2005
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.
asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.
B
Burt
May 7, 2005
If you are using them yourself and would consider paper stock that is not quite as stiff as a commercial post card you could use something like Epson double sided matte paper. It is thicker than the heavy matte paper that is coated on one side and makes decent prints (not as vivid as satin or glossy paper) Epson glossy photo paper can be printed on and written on the back side. Not as heavy as a postcard, and there is a very light repeat logo that hardly shows. There are several heavier weights of card stock like Wasau bristol or cover that are available at paper firms that cater to printers. Since they are uncoated the prints are less vivid than when printed on coated or glossy stock. If you have a paper cutter any of these papers can be precut to 4×6 (three per sheet) and printed borderless if your printer will do borderless prints. Lots of choices in addition to the packaged postcard stock you can purchase ready to use, and many of the choices are much less expensive than the pre-prepared ones. I don’t think there is any legal requirement to print the usual back-of-the postcard design on the message side. A friend of mine simply makes color prints on glossy paper, writes his message on the back side in the same space that a preprinted postcard provides, adds an address and stamp and sends it off. Unless you are trying to make your cards look like they came off the postcard rack at a tourist shop you might just use one of the paper stocks that I suggested or one you find yourself and Keep It Simple – the Kiss concept!

"Alan Justice" wrote in message
From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

– Alan Justice

S
Scrufff
May 7, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com
Why don’t you google "piss off".
T
TAFKAB
May 7, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.

And, it skips the sarcasm.

asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

If you’re going to provide an answer, provide a link to a specific product. It helps.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Where?
C
Crownfield
May 7, 2005
Scrufff wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com
Why don’t you google "piss off".

you more inspire piss on.
C
Crownfield
May 7, 2005
TAFKAB wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

assholes always want easy answers without having to think.

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.

And, it skips the sarcasm.

asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

If you’re going to provide an answer, provide a link to a specific product. It helps.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Where?

ask google for ‘ inkjet postcards ‘
it really is easy.
MW
Michael Weinstein
May 8, 2005
On 2005-05-06 20:26:14 -0400, Dean Van Praotl said:

"Alan Justice" apparently said:

From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my photos (tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

My uncle used to make exactly that: postcards direct from his negatives. That was in the 1930’s and 1940’s. He used a 3A Graflex camera, size 122 roll film that made negatives just right for contact printing as postcards. That, and there were manufacturers that made B&W papers for the purpose, with the needed stuff printed on the back. I doubt if there’s enough demand for such a product to make it possible today.

Canon CP-220 and CP-330 printers are dye sub printers and their 4×6 paper IS on card stock with the postcard info on the back. They are waterproof too.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana
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Scrufff
May 8, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
Scrufff wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com
Why don’t you google "piss off".

you more inspire piss on.
I inspire you to be pissed on?
Maybe you need to head on over to alt.scat.
C
Crownfield
May 8, 2005
Scrufff wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
Scrufff wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com
Why don’t you google "piss off".

you more inspire piss on.
I inspire you to be pissed on?
Maybe you need to head on over to alt.scat.

you not only are lazy and not too bright,
you have trouble with reading and comprehending.
T
TAFKAB
May 8, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

assholes always want easy answers without having to think.

And they like being wise asses, too. Look, dipshit, if you’ve got nothing constructive to add, go I love yourself. Plonk.

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.

And, it skips the sarcasm.

asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

If you’re going to provide an answer, provide a link to a specific product.
It helps.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Where?

ask google for ‘ inkjet postcards ‘
it really is easy.

I "googled" asswipe. It returned your e-mail address. Shocker.
AJ
Alan Justice
May 8, 2005
I assume those cards will work fine on an Epson 2200. I searched a few online vendors and could not find them, just a package of miscellaneous sizes. Anyone have a catalogue number for the 4×6’s?


– Alan Justice

"Michael Weinstein" wrote in message
On 2005-05-06 20:26:14 -0400, Dean Van Praotl said:

"Alan Justice" apparently said:

From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my
photos
(tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

My uncle used to make exactly that: postcards direct from his negatives. That was in the 1930’s and 1940’s. He used a 3A Graflex camera, size 122 roll film that made negatives just right for contact printing as postcards. That, and there were manufacturers that made B&W papers for the purpose, with the needed stuff printed on the back. I doubt if there’s enough demand for such a product to make it possible today.

Canon CP-220 and CP-330 printers are dye sub printers and their 4×6 paper IS on card stock with the postcard info on the back. They are waterproof too.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana
C
Crownfield
May 8, 2005
TAFKAB wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

assholes always want easy answers without having to think.

And they like being wise asses, too. Look, dipshit, if you’ve got nothing constructive to add, go I love yourself. Plonk.

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.

And, it skips the sarcasm.

asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

If you’re going to provide an answer, provide a link to a specific product.
It helps.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Where?

ask google for ‘ inkjet postcards ‘
it really is easy.

I "googled" asswipe. It returned your e-mail address. Shocker.

right.
try ‘lazy’.

run out of thought, content, and creativity,
argumentum ad hominem.
its your last resort.
S
Scrufff
May 8, 2005
I see "The One" is back.

"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

assholes always want easy answers without having to think.
when asked questions, it gives very good answers.

And, it skips the sarcasm.

asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

If you’re going to provide an answer, provide a link to a specific
product.
It helps.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Where?

ask google for ‘ inkjet postcards ‘
it really is easy.
T
TAFKAB
May 8, 2005
"Scrufff" wrote in message
I see "The One" is back.

The one? Who’s dat?
T
TAFKAB
May 8, 2005
"Alan Justice" wrote in message
I assume those cards will work fine on an Epson 2200. I searched a few online vendors and could not find them, just a package of miscellaneous sizes. Anyone have a catalogue number for the 4×6’s?

Careful. Dye sub printers use totally different stock than ink jet printers. Check before you buy.


– Alan Justice

"Michael Weinstein" wrote in message
On 2005-05-06 20:26:14 -0400, Dean Van Praotl
said:

"Alan Justice" apparently said:

From Photographer’s Edge I buy blank note cards in which to put my
photos
(tri-fold with windows and tape: very nice). But does anyone know of a
product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

My uncle used to make exactly that: postcards direct from his negatives. That was in the 1930’s and 1940’s. He used a 3A Graflex camera, size 122 roll film that made negatives just right for contact printing as postcards. That, and there were manufacturers that made B&W papers for the purpose, with the needed stuff printed on the back. I doubt if there’s enough demand for such a product to make it possible today.

Canon CP-220 and CP-330 printers are dye sub printers and their 4×6 paper IS on card stock with the postcard info on the back. They are waterproof too.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana

MW
Michael Weinstein
May 9, 2005
On 2005-05-08 13:03:57 -0400, "Alan Justice" said:

I assume those cards will work fine on an Epson 2200. I searched a few online vendors and could not find them, just a package of miscellaneous sizes. Anyone have a catalogue number for the 4×6’s?


– Alan Justice

"Michael Weinstein" wrote in message
Canon CP-220 and CP-330 printers are dye sub printers and their 4×6 paper IS on card stock with the postcard info on the back. They are waterproof too.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana

Not likely. The Canon printer requires a matched dye-sub cartridge and the paper pack for it. It is NOT ink jet. I don’t know if you can actually print on the card stock with an ink jet printer. If you could, it would not be optimized for it, would not be waterproof, and would be an enormous waste since you buy a 36 card pack that includes the necessary ink cartridge. Again, don’t mix dye sub with ink jet, they are not the same.


Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana
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Clyde
May 9, 2005
Michael Weinstein wrote:
On 2005-05-08 13:03:57 -0400, "Alan Justice" said:
I assume those cards will work fine on an Epson 2200. I searched a few online vendors and could not find them, just a package of miscellaneous sizes. Anyone have a catalogue number for the 4×6’s?


– Alan Justice

"Michael Weinstein" wrote in message

Canon CP-220 and CP-330 printers are dye sub printers and their 4×6 paper IS on card stock with the postcard info on the back. They are waterproof too.

Michael Weinstein | "Those who cannot remember the Nashua, NH | past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana

Not likely. The Canon printer requires a matched dye-sub cartridge and the paper pack for it. It is NOT ink jet. I don’t know if you can actually print on the card stock with an ink jet printer. If you could, it would not be optimized for it, would not be waterproof, and would be an enormous waste since you buy a 36 card pack that includes the necessary ink cartridge. Again, don’t mix dye sub with ink jet, they are not the same.

I have successfully printed on card stock with my Epson 870 in the past and my R800 currently.

Also, I doubt any paper could be called waterproof. I have a watch that will stand going down to 660 feet and they don’t call it waterproof – just water resistant.

From what I’ve read and tested, my R800 as about as water resistant ink as you will find. The pigment based inks seem unaffected by water.

Clyde
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Dave
May 9, 2005
I have successfully printed on card stock with my Epson 870 in the past and my R800 currently.

Also, I doubt any paper could be called waterproof. I have a watch that will stand going down to 660 feet and they don’t call it waterproof – just water resistant.

From what I’ve read and tested, my R800 as about as water resistant ink as you will find. The pigment based inks seem unaffected by water.
Clyde

you want to send this postcards oversea?

Dave
C
Clyde
May 10, 2005
DD wrote:
I have successfully printed on card stock with my Epson 870 in the past and my R800 currently.

Also, I doubt any paper could be called waterproof. I have a watch that will stand going down to 660 feet and they don’t call it waterproof – just water resistant.

From what I’ve read and tested, my R800 as about as water resistant ink as you will find. The pigment based inks seem unaffected by water.
Clyde

you want to send this postcards oversea?

Dave

Sure, why not. Postal services aren’t noted for doing a lot of their work under water. I’m sure my R800 ink will stand up to much more rain than any postcard will normally encounter. Think about it; how often do you get mail that has any sign of rain on it? Have you ever got mail that was rain soaked?

Clyde
D
Dave
May 10, 2005
On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:53:59 -0500, Clyde wrote:

DD wrote:
I have successfully printed on card stock with my Epson 870 in the past and my R800 currently.

Also, I doubt any paper could be called waterproof. I have a watch that will stand going down to 660 feet and they don’t call it waterproof – just water resistant.

From what I’ve read and tested, my R800 as about as water resistant ink as you will find. The pigment based inks seem unaffected by water.
Clyde

you want to send this postcards oversea?

Dave

Sure, why not. Postal services aren’t noted for doing a lot of their work under water. I’m sure my R800 ink will stand up to much more rain than any postcard will normally encounter. Think about it; how often do you get mail that has any sign of rain on it? Have you ever got mail that was rain soaked?

Clyde

Sure did, Clyde:-)

Dave
AM
Alex MacPhee
May 10, 2005
"Alan Justice" wrote

But does anyone know of a
product that is a postcard ready to be printed with my photos?

I have a Canon CP220 photo printer, which prints on postcard sized paper (or rather cards). The back of each sheet is actually a postcard layout, with address lines, a box for the stamp, and a space for a message. I regularly print scanned prints/negatives or digital files on to Canon photo card paper to do just what you’re looking for.

Alex
TS
Tom Scales
May 11, 2005
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.
asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Best postcards, considerably better than the Avery quality stuff, are from www.redriverpaper.com
J
Jer
May 11, 2005
What thickness of card stock are you using in your R800? I didn’t think you could run card stock through the 800 because it doesn’t have straight through feeding. What’s the thickest that you can use?
AJ
Alan Justice
May 11, 2005
"Clyde" wrote in message
DD wrote:
I have successfully printed on card stock with my Epson 870 in the past and my R800 currently.

Also, I doubt any paper could be called waterproof. I have a watch that will stand going down to 660 feet and they don’t call it waterproof – just water resistant.

From what I’ve read and tested, my R800 as about as water resistant ink as you will find. The pigment based inks seem unaffected by water.
Clyde

you want to send this postcards oversea?

Dave

Sure, why not. Postal services aren’t noted for doing a lot of their work under water. I’m sure my R800 ink will stand up to much more rain than any postcard will normally encounter. Think about it; how often do you get mail that has any sign of rain on it? Have you ever got mail that was rain soaked?

Clyde
Oh my, yes. I live on the north coast of California. We’re just swimming all winter.
AJ
Alan Justice
May 11, 2005
I didn’t see postcards on their site, but I sent them an email for info. Thanks.


– Alan Justice

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Crownfield" wrote in message
TAFKAB wrote:

there is a product / service called google.com

when asked questions, it gives very good answers.
asked about post ‘cards inkjet’,
it comes back with all sorts of answers.

Photographer’s Edge, office max, office depot
all have postcards.

HP and Avery make them.

you can even get 250 double sided post cards
printed from your image for 49.95 by a printer.

Best postcards, considerably better than the Avery quality stuff, are from www.redriverpaper.com

R
retsoppot
May 11, 2005
It is true a person could ask for an answer, but now a bunch of butts give you the goto googles shit.
Why don’t then NOT answer if they don’t know what is right. go away you google butts.

there is a product / service called google.com

No shit. Useless sometimes, too. There’s also a product/service called public forums, where innocent users can ask questions, and then suffer a barrage of wise ass answers from smarmy, know it all, smug and uppity assholes. This is true. I’ve seen it happen.

assholes always want easy answers without having to think.

And they like being wise asses, too. Look, dipshit, if you’ve got nothing constructive to add, go I love yourself. Plonk.

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