How to touch-up GIF and convert to JPG?

Curly wrote:

The original color photo is saved in GIF with some grain from the format. What’s the best way to touch-up the pic and convert it to JPG without further
degradation? TIA!

I don’t quite undersatand what you mean:/
GIF is a lossless format, but it has its own limitations, 256 colours as a maximum is one of them, not proper for photo
JPG on the contrary is a lossy format, everytime you save it, it tries to compress, so losing information

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al-Farrob
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al-Farrob wrote:

Curly wrote:

The original color photo is saved in GIF with some grain from the format. What’s the best way to touch-up the pic and convert it to JPG without further
degradation? TIA!

I don’t quite undersatand what you mean:/
GIF is a lossless format, but it has its own limitations, 256 colours as a maximum is one of them, not proper for photo
JPG on the contrary is a lossy format, everytime you save it, it tries to compress, so losing information

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

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al-Farrob
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http://www.al-farrob.com

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?

How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to JPEG?

Curly wrote:

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for
maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?
How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to JPEG?

I am no PS guru:) but since PSD is the native format, your idea is probably the best.

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al-Farrob
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http://www.al-farrob.com

From what I understand and noticed, saving in jpeg always sacrifices some quality even at 10 or 12.

"al-Farrob" wrote in message

Curly wrote:

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for
maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?
How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to JPEG?

I am no PS guru:) but since PSD is the native format, your idea is

probably

the best.

—
al-Farrob
—
http://www.al-farrob.com

al-Farrob wrote:

Curly wrote:

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for
maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?
How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to JPEG?

I am no PS guru:) but since PSD is the native format, your idea is probably the best.

I’m not a guru either, but the basic idea is to convert to jpg *exactly once*, and that’s when you have everything the way you want it. The reason is that, as many have already said, jpg is a lossy format and each time you save it you lose some information.

The compression numbers in programs are meaningless. There is no universal meaning for "5", each program has its own scale.

So I’d convert the image from a gif to an format with a wider color range and which will not lose any information as you save it between editing sessions (or just to keep Murphy away). And it should be a format that is easy to manipulate in your program.

In Photoshop that’s a PSD. In some other program it might be some other form. There is nothing magical about PSDs in general *except* that they are the built-in Adobe form for images that are being worked on.

If for some reason PSD’s give you a rash or whatever, I’d use a TIF format or any other that will not lose data on being saved.

—- Paul J. Gans

Get ThumbsPlus and perform a quick conversion to JPG. Works like a charm. The resulting image can hardly be distinguished from a high-quality TIFF. Of course, that doesn’t make the image smaller in file size, but it does preserve the quality.

—
Branko
(http://www.dobrojutro.netfirms.com/)

"Norman & Nancy Perry" wrote in message

From what I understand and noticed, saving in jpeg always sacrifices some quality even at 10 or 12.

"al-Farrob" wrote in message

Curly wrote:

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for
maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?
How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to

JPEG?

I am no PS guru:) but since PSD is the native format, your idea is

probably

the best.

—
al-Farrob
—
http://www.al-farrob.com

Paul J Gans wrote:

al-Farrob wrote:

Curly wrote:

Coming back…
Save it to .jpeg with 100% (no loss), then make your touching, if I understand what you want, may this will do

For 100%, should you save the pic at JPEG quality 10 or 12? The PS default for
maximum is 10 for some reason. What the difference between 10 and 12?
How about converting it to PSD first before editing and save it to JPEG?

I am no PS guru:) but since PSD is the native format, your idea is probably the best.

I’m not a guru either, but the basic idea is to convert to jpg *exactly once*, and that’s when you have everything the way you want it. The reason is that, as many have already said, jpg is a lossy format and each time you save it you lose some information.

The compression numbers in programs are meaningless. There is no universal meaning for "5", each program has its own scale.

So I’d convert the image from a gif to an format with a wider color range and which will not lose any information as you save it between editing sessions (or just to keep Murphy away). And it should be a format that is easy to manipulate in your program.

In Photoshop that’s a PSD. In some other program it might be some other form. There is nothing magical about PSDs in general *except* that they are the built-in Adobe form for images that are being worked on.

If for some reason PSD’s give you a rash or whatever, I’d use a TIF format or any other that will not lose data on being saved.

—- Paul J. Gans

I completely agree, I use The Gimp, usually work on .xcf which is its native format.

Thanks for your thourough explanation

—
al-Farrob
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http://www.al-farrob.com

If you don’t need to edit the image and only to convert to JPG you can try Visere at:

www.dmmd.net

Sincerely yours,
Darian_at_dmmd_dot_net

"Curly" wrote in message

The original color photo is saved in GIF with some grain from the format. What’s the best way to touch-up the pic and convert it to JPG without

further

degradation? TIA!