Using the Adobe gamma ICC, if one

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cadman_meg
Jan 18, 2004
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If I am scanning with a film scanner and then viewing the results and doing any editing with PS 7, then should I use an ICC created by PS 7? My Minolta scanner does allow me to load a particular ICC profile and then in turn I could use that for my monitor ICC profile as well. If so, then how do I go about this and what are the best methods? Hope this makes since as I am still learning this Color management stuff. Thanks.

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LenHewitt
Jan 18, 2004
Cadman,

Monitor profiles are for MONITORS and that is all!

For a fully Colour Managed profile you would need to have your scanner profiled. You would then ASSIGN that profile to the scanned images (so that the numbers in the file represented specific colour shades) and then CONVERT to your working colour space. (This changes the numbers in the file). The monitor profile would be used by Photoshop to ensure the display on your monitor represented the colours in the file correctly – it would not change the numbers in the file.

When you come to print the file, the monitor profile drops out of the equation completely. Photoshop then uses the printer profile to change the numbers on-the-fly to those that will give the correct output on the printer, Again the numbers IN the file will not change.
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brent_bertram
Jan 18, 2004
Len,
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a nice, succinct explanation. I’ve stuck it in my clipboard stack of quotes for further dissemination.

You’ll see it again ( properly attributed, I hope ! )

🙂

Brent
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LenHewitt
Jan 18, 2004
Thank You Brent <blushing>

You may find this one of use to:

"The numbers in an image file do not represent specific colours. For example,
100R, 0G, 0B just means "make the brightest, most saturated red you can". It doesn’t mean a specific SHADE of red, and the red that will result will depend upon the capabilities of the device the data is being sent to (usually either a monitor or printer of some sort).

Only when coupled with an ICC profile that describes the ‘colour space’ do those numbers represent a specific shade.

If it helps you in any way here is my short "idiot’s guide to CM" <g>

There is data in a file. That data doesn’t represent specific colours UNTIL the colour space is stated (embedded profile or assign profile).

The working profile sets up the colour space you are working in, and the embedded profile allows the CM engine to convert the file data values to your working space values so those values still represent the same colour as originally indicated by the file data and embedded profile.

The monitor profile alters that data from your working space on the fly to allow the monitor to display the colours represented by the data within the working space profile.

When you print, the output profile alters the data to allow the printer to reproduce the colours represented by the data and the image profile.

The monitor profile effectively drops out of the equation when you print.

Provided the ‘translation’ from working space to monitor is correct AND the translation from working space to output device is correct, the print will match the monitor.

However, only if the translation from embedded profile to working space is also correct will the monitor and print also match the original file intentions.

For a fuller explanation, spend some 15 minutes or so over at http://www.computer-darkroom.com

The info there is really for Photoshop, but it is equally applicable to Illustrator from version 9 on"

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