Photoshop CS under win98se

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Jose_Regino_P._Trinidad
Jan 19, 2004
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Helppppppp!…. my mom bought me PHOTOSHOP CS and the operating system that i’m using is win98se, is there a way that i can use photoshop CS under win98se? i tried installing it and it wouldnt install, so does this mean that my photoshop cs is useless?….

is there a patch that i can install?

please help me……..

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Pierre_Courtejoie
Jan 19, 2004
There is no patch.
You’ll need to upgrade to Windows 2000 or XP.
I wish I has such a mom!
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Lawrence_Hudetz
Jan 19, 2004
Upgrade prices are not too bad.
BB
brent_bertram
Jan 19, 2004
New computer prices ( that include the OS) are very reasonable. $399
CK
Christine_Krof_Shock
Jan 19, 2004
Or if you are a student you can get a great deal on academic pricing ($95.00 from www.rteksystems.com)
JR
Jose_Regino_P._Trinidad
Jan 20, 2004
so this means, i have no other choice but to upgrade to XP? 🙁 …..

why did they make adobe photoshop cs not compatible to win98se?… why????……… whats wrong w/ win98se?…. 🙁

darn, i have lots of games and tweaks installed in my computer. my moms money gone to waste…. 🙁
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dave_milbut
Jan 20, 2004
why did they make adobe photoshop cs not compatible to win98se?…

progress, son, progress.

why????……… whats wrong w/ win98se?….

using new technologies in 2k and xp forced them to abandon 98. up to last week 98 was due to be cut off from microsoft itself. (they just decided to extend support until 2006).

darn, i have lots of games and tweaks installed in my computer. my moms money gone to waste….

your games should run fine – probably better – under xp.
FN
Fred_Nirque
Jan 20, 2004
"whats wrong w/ win98se?"

You’re kidding, right?

Thanks for the laugh, anyway! ( – when you upgrade to XP you will find there are enough tweaking tools available – most free – that will enable you to have an XP machine that isn’t, if you so desire. Or you could just sell PSCS and continue to "enjoy" 98SE!)

Fred.
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Dave_Spoula
Jan 21, 2004
Jose,
Another option might be ….
OEM XP Home $89.00 @ DirectDeals.com.
Add a new hard drive and master drive switch.
A little modification tip from TechTV.com.
Keep 98 and your games on your old drive.
XP and PS on the new drive.
Switch to desired Op sys/drive before startup.
Dave
JR
Jose_Regino_P._Trinidad
Jan 21, 2004
to fred,

i’m serious, i’m not actually having problems w/ win98se….. its hard to reinstall applications, it takes me 1 week to install everything…. can’t sell my photoshop cs, my mom gave it to me…..

to dave,
hey thats a good idea, someone actually invented a switch for hard drives, but how does this switch work? does this thing just cut the power supply of the hard drives? is it a complicated switch?
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LenHewitt
Jan 21, 2004
Jose,

how does this switch work? <<

A software boot manager allows you to run multiple operating systems on a single machine
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Scott_Byer
Jan 21, 2004
There is a lot of functionality missing from the Win9x series (e.g., Unicode). It’s also not nearly as stable an operating system, and it can’t handle the size of files Photoshop CS is now capable of generating.

It’s time for it to slip into the rose colored memory scrapbook.

-Scott
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Dave_Spoula
Jan 21, 2004
Jose,

"how does this switch work?"

The switch just switches one drive to master from cable select mode. No rocket science here. The following from TTV …..

Make a switch that changes the jumper setting. To pick which drive to boot, flip the switch before startup.
The switch is a single-pole double-throw (SPDT).
This $3 switch completes the circuit when it’s up and stops the circuit when it’s down. You need a Dremel tool and your soldering kit for this. You also need to find hard-drive jumpers with wires, not the hard-drive jumpers you find on drives today. I found my jumpers from an old 286 PC. Try looking at used computer parts stores.
Instructions
Place both drives on the same primary IDE channel and remove all jumpers. I placed my Linux drive at the end of the chain, but it doesn’t matter which OS is at the end.
Boot the PC. Most drives default to cable select mode when the jumpers are removed. The drive at the end of the chain will be master. The drives should show up as master and slave.
Shut down your PC.
Place your wired jumpers on each drive. The drive at the end of the chain should be set to slave. The other drive set to master.
Solder the other end of the wires to the switch, separating the two wires from each jumper to the two leads on the switch.
When the switch is flipped up, the circuit is completed and the jumpers are activated. When the switch is flipped down, the connection is broken and the drives default to the cable select position, as if no jumpers were on the drive.
Dremel a hole in a 5.25-inch bay to mount the switch and close up your case. On my PC, I flip the switch up to boot into Windows. (This selects drive 1 as master.). To boot into Linux, I flip the switch down. (This activates cable select, making drive 2 master.)

Dave
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Phosphor
Jan 22, 2004
Seriously?

That’s what it takes to boot from a different hard drive under Windows?
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r_harvey
Jan 22, 2004
Or use a boot manager. You can change boot drives in the BIOS, too.
FN
Fred_Nirque
Jan 22, 2004
I’m really enjoying this thread………. soldering irons, wired jumpers from old 286PC’s (the museum let you have one?)…………Dremeling cases to insert $3 switches……..keeping 98 instead of using CS under XP…………..

Keep up the good work, it’s about time we had some real humour in this forum.

Outstanding.

Fred.
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Bill_Lamp
Jan 22, 2004
Actually I still have DOS 6.2 as a boot option with a boot manager. (XP & DOS)

Doesn’t XP have one built in?

Is it possible to install XP upgrade with a boot manager into a second new drive and have it recognize the needed files on the other drive to continue the install?

If all of this is true, he is looking at only adding a second drive and doing the OS upgrade. Changing the boot order in the bios would possibly keep the partition mapping the same as he is used to when he boots to SE.

As for just where you can boot from… Lets just say I was able to boot OS/2 from the last partition on the second HD with the standard boot manager from IBM. I understand you can use it with Linux and avoid drilling and, if metal is drilled, short causing chips.

He may really be better off in having a GOOD computer tech do even this at about an hour of labor.

Bill
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YrbkMgr
Jan 22, 2004
FWIW, there are few reasons to stay in 98 anyway. XP is more stable, and more capable. I simply can’t see "I don’t want to re-install apps" as a reason not to upgrade. Does that mean that if your mom bought you a new Alienware screamin machine, you wouldn’t use it? You’d still have to reinstall your games and apps.

Just my opinion though.

Peace,
Tony
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Jose_Regino_P._Trinidad
Jan 22, 2004
guys i thank u all for ur advise!!! 🙂

i’m just a sentimental guy, i worked hard searching stuffs to customize my pc and win98se and then all will be lost coz i have to upgrade. it took me 2 years to get to know win98se, would u believe me if i tell u in the span of two years, i reformatted my hard drive 3 or 4 times a month just to customize and to test the tweaks and tips to optimize my pc and o.s. and its almost a year i started settling down coz i have finnally got what i wanted! 🙂

Well enough with the drama 🙂

with the applications, i have pinnacle pctv, intel webcam software, nero 6, cool edit pro (audio editor), adobe premier, macromedia freehand, microsoft visual basic 6, media player, adobe photoshop 7, canon photo viewer, cuteftp, scanners software, cellphone utilities, winfax, norton system works, mcaffee antivirus, games and many more…. and all of this i customized it for my own satisfaction

with the games, onces i’m done or finish w/ the game, i uninstall it and install a new game……..

to dave,

with the switch u r telling, the o.s. will still be able to detect the other hard-drive?…… so this mean, no matter if i boot to the 2nd hard-drive i can still access the 1st hard-drive, right?…… would it be better if i make a switch to the power supply of the hard-drive and set both hard-drive jumpers to master, so when i switch it up, i only supply power to the 1st hard-drive and when i switch it down, the power supplied to the 1st hard-drive will then be diverted to 2nd hard-drive which i will boot XP…… in this case, which ever o.s. i boot, i wont have access to the other hard-drive…… is that a good idea? i just thought of it right now…… if it is a good idea, i’m getting a 3rd hard-drive….. i’m already using two (40 gig each)…
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ID._Awe
Jan 22, 2004
Why all this with the switches, XP has a boot commander, you can put XP on a second drive and boot to either drive for a separate OS if you wish. The only thing on the first master is the NT loader/ini files for the command switch. You can do this with any NT product.
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Phosphor
Jan 22, 2004
So, DO you have all the installers? Or would you have to go find them all on the undernet again along with…ummm…their little "helper" applications?.

If so, yes, then I would understand how big a pain in the boo-boo that might be. But, if you have all your installers, it shouldn’t take any more than a nice full weekend to get everything up and running properly.

Upgrade, get it over with and clear out all the crap you rarely use. In a month you’ll be wondering why you waited so long.

Trust me on this one.
MS
Marc_Sublet
Jan 23, 2004
mmm… sounds like you have the little ++helper++ ;o]
If you have enough bucks for Photoshop/Premiere/FreeHand/Norton/Nero, etc… buy XP too!!! And I find very special to come on the Adobe forum for that…
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Dave_Spoula
Jan 23, 2004
Jose,
"will still be able to detect the other hard-drive?" Should be able to.
"if i boot to the 2nd hard-drive i can still access the 1st hard-drive, right?" Sounds correct.
"make a switch to the power supply"
That would be a matter of preference. Your preference. Do you want to see the other OS drive? Seems I’ve caused a bit of a stir with this but I only offered this as you were looking for options.
Several suggestions included a software boot manager. I have no problem with that. It is true XP pro has a boot manager, I don’t know if XP Home has. I’m sure someone out there can verify for you.
I do say that any OS is subject to problems, most of which being owner related. One thing I will ask is if MS expected no problems to occur and OSs were stabil 100% of the time, would there be a need for programs such as Backup or System Restore?
It’s your $$ and your choice to make. What ever you choose I’m sure it will be right for you. Dave
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ID._Awe
Jan 24, 2004
Yes, XP home would have the boot manager, it is actually called ‘boot.ini’. You have to set it to appear for the length of time that you need to make the selection. The default is 30 secs.
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Fred_Nirque
Jan 24, 2004
Dave,

I don’t think that System Restore is there because MS thought that XP was unstable – it isn’t – it is there (as you suggest) to backtrack after the user has done something stupid (such as installing Dodgey Bros. software, deleting dll’s or cluelessly editing the registry) and caused the system to go belly-up.

I ran XP & ME & Linux on my old machine all on the same hard-drive using XP’s boot manager to boot into the desired OS at start-up. There is no need to make hardware modifications to do this – in fact, when you install XP after 98 (or ME), XP will ask if you want to upgrade 98 (or ME) or install on another partition, which it will then proceed to set up. (Running Linux as well is a bit trickier, but achievable.)

The only proviso is that if you want 98 (or ME) to see the files on the XP partition in Explorer when it is the booted OS, you have to install XP onto a FAT32 formatted partition. XP also gives you this option on install.

Short of hard drive failure, if one system goes west, a restart will bring up the boot manager which will allow you to boot into the other system to at least get things up & running and possibly enact a repair from there.

If you are worried about hard drive failure, the surest thing is to get a dismountable hard drive cradle and have a separate hard drive with your OS’s ghosted onto it in another cradle allowing easy insertion of the backup hd in seconds. Re-ghosting regularly onto the backup means that data loss on hd failure will be minimal, and setting the whole thing up again unnecessary.

Simple, really.

Fred.
JR
Jose_Regino_P._Trinidad
Jan 24, 2004
problem solve, mom bought me a 3rd hard-drive, i just made a switch to the power supply of my 3 hard-drives and i already installed xp.

with the switch i made, i’m able to boot from win98se to xp without accessing my other two hard-drives. with this setup, incase something goes wrong, my other o.s. wont get affected and the best part of it, i’m able to maintain my win98se and i’m able to install my photoshop CS. YEHEY!!! 🙂

thanks guys! specially to dave! 🙂

god bless to u all!

P.S. is there a way to change my name? i just want to put my nickname instead, my name is kind a toooooooo long……. 😉
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dave_milbut
Jan 24, 2004
moms are cool like that.

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