Problem with Photoshop CS and iPhoto

In article , Shawn Hirn
wrote:

I do my image editing on a dual processor PowerMac G5 with 1GB RAM and Mac OS X 10.4.2. I have the latest iPhoto 5. My problem is that I want to set up iPhoto to edit files in Photoshop CS. With that in mind, I set the iPhoto 5 preference to invoke Photoshop CS. When I double-click a photo from within iPhoto 5, it starts Photoshop CS, but the image does not open into Photoshop CS. The same thing happens regardless of which image I use.

How can I fix this problem?

By all indications, you updated to Tiger with Photoshop CS already on the disk, and probably did so via an Archive and Install.

What’s happened is that the Adobe Unit Types file that needs to be in the /Library/Scripting Additions folder wasn’t moved. Copy it from the Previous System Folder (or just reinstall Photoshop).

This is well-documented, by the way, on the Adobe site.
<http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/329996.html>

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Spenser

Shawn Hirn:

I do my image editing on a dual processor PowerMac G5 with 1GB RAM and Mac OS X 10.4.2. I have the latest iPhoto 5. My problem is that I want to set up iPhoto to edit files in Photoshop CS. With that in mind, I set the iPhoto 5 preference to invoke Photoshop CS. When I double-click a photo from within iPhoto 5, it starts Photoshop CS, but the image does not open into Photoshop CS. The same thing happens regardless of which image I use.

How can I fix this problem?

"sbt" kindly answered that question.

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

If you don’t have a good answer to that, i.e., a good reason to be using iPhoto, take a look at iView Media Pro.

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

In article <170720051214334512%>, Davoud
wrote:

Shawn Hirn:

I do my image editing on a dual processor PowerMac G5 with 1GB RAM and Mac OS X 10.4.2. I have the latest iPhoto 5. My problem is that I want to set up iPhoto to edit files in Photoshop CS. With that in mind, I set the iPhoto 5 preference to invoke Photoshop CS. When I double-click a photo from within iPhoto 5, it starts Photoshop CS, but the image does not open into Photoshop CS. The same thing happens regardless of which image I use.

How can I fix this problem?

"sbt" kindly answered that question.

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

If you don’t have a good answer to that, i.e., a good reason to be using iPhoto, take a look at iView Media Pro.

Davoud,

I have iView Media Pro, but must admit to using iPhoto 5 in its stead. The reasons are convenience (the integration with the rest of iLife is _very_ useful to me) and ease-of-use. While I was less than pleased with the performance of earlier versions, the last two iPhoto releases, 4 & 5, have been more than satisfactory with my modest (10K-15K photos) image collection. I use the slideshow feature frequently to create VCDs and DVDs for family and that has gotten really convenient in iPhoto 5.

If my collection were larger and my primary conern in an organizer were capacity, I would probably still be using iView, but I think the decision is based upon what a particular individual does with their image collection. There really isn’t a "one size fits all best" application.

BTW, I do the bulk of my editing in Photoshop CS2, too.

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Spenser

Davoud:

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

If you don’t have a good answer to that, i.e., a good reason to be using iPhoto, take a look at iView Media Pro.

sbt:

I have iView Media Pro, but must admit to using iPhoto 5 in its stead. The reasons are convenience (the integration with the rest of iLife is _very_ useful to me) and ease-of-use. While I was less than pleased with the performance of earlier versions, the last two iPhoto releases, 4 & 5, have been more than satisfactory with my modest (10K-15K photos) image collection. I use the slideshow feature frequently to create VCDs and DVDs for family and that has gotten really convenient in iPhoto 5.
If my collection were larger and my primary conern in an organizer were capacity, I would probably still be using iView, but I think the decision is based upon what a particular individual does with their image collection. There really isn’t a "one size fits all best" application.

BTW, I do the bulk of my editing in Photoshop CS2, too.

I was not my intention to disparage anyone who uses iPhoto. It’s fine for what it does for amateurs — its ability to interface with other amateur apps, for example, as you pointed out. The OP sounded like he might be doing pro-level work. iPhoto is not intended for or well suited for pro-level work. Put 100,000 or so photos in the iPhoto library and you’ll soon understand why!

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

In article <170720052121504722%>, Davoud
wrote:

Davoud:

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

If you don’t have a good answer to that, i.e., a good reason to be using iPhoto, take a look at iView Media Pro.

sbt:

I have iView Media Pro, but must admit to using iPhoto 5 in its stead. The reasons are convenience (the integration with the rest of iLife is _very_ useful to me) and ease-of-use. While I was less than pleased with the performance of earlier versions, the last two iPhoto releases, 4 & 5, have been more than satisfactory with my modest (10K-15K photos) image collection. I use the slideshow feature frequently to create VCDs and DVDs for family and that has gotten really convenient in iPhoto 5.
If my collection were larger and my primary conern in an organizer were capacity, I would probably still be using iView, but I think the decision is based upon what a particular individual does with their image collection. There really isn’t a "one size fits all best" application.

BTW, I do the bulk of my editing in Photoshop CS2, too.

I was not my intention to disparage anyone who uses iPhoto. It’s fine for what it does for amateurs — its ability to interface with other amateur apps, for example, as you pointed out. The OP sounded like he might be doing pro-level work. iPhoto is not intended for or well suited for pro-level work. Put 100,000 or so photos in the iPhoto library and you’ll soon understand why!

Davoud,

My objection is to your use of "professional" and "amateur." I am a professional in the literal sense of the word — I use these tools to earn my living. That means, for example, that for "active projects," I use iPhoto for its integration and archive that material to iView when the project goes inactive, iTunes for managing audio assets (haven’t come close to stressing it yet), iMovie and Final Cut for video editing depending upon the demands of the particular project, and iDVD and DVD Studio Pro for authoring, again dependent upon the demands of the project at hand. For the three decades that I’ve been in this (the computer) business, and the twenty-five years using personal computers, I have found that most of the time I will have two (or sometimes more) applications that overlap in functionality and that which one I use will depend upon the project.

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Spenser

In article <170720052121504722%>, Davoud
wrote:

iPhoto is not intended for or well
suited for pro-level work. Put 100,000 or so photos in the iPhoto library and you’ll soon understand why!

I’ve found to my annoyance that iPhoto 5 becomes unusable (beachball on opening and closing) at around 5,000 photos, which even for an amateur isn’t a lot of digital photos, especially as Apple still claim iPhoto can handle 25,000 photos. This applies whether photos are converted from an iPhoto 4 Library, or whether they are imported as jpg from a second copy of the original photos. The file Library.iPhoto in folder iPhoto Library increases in size by about 32k per photo, getting to over 250MB when I have over 6000 photos.

I do have evidence of less file bloat in Library.iPhoto if the original photos are smaller than the 3 megapixel ones in my usual library. However at the moment I don’t have a sufficiently large sample of smaller (<1megapixel) photos to test this further.

Interestingly iPhoto 4 handles the same 6000 photos (all of which have comments) without problems. It has a Library.iPhoto file of 2.1 MB.

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http://www.ericlindsay.com

Eric Lindsay wrote:

In article <170720052121504722%>, Davoud
wrote:

iPhoto is not intended for or well
suited for pro-level work. Put 100,000 or so photos in the iPhoto library and you’ll soon understand why!

I’ve found to my annoyance that iPhoto 5 becomes unusable (beachball on opening and closing) at around 5,000 photos, which even for an amateur isn’t a lot of digital photos, especially as Apple still claim iPhoto can handle 25,000 photos. This applies whether photos are converted from an iPhoto 4 Library, or whether they are imported as jpg from a second copy of the original photos. The file Library.iPhoto in folder iPhoto Library increases in size by about 32k per photo, getting to over 250MB when I have over 6000 photos.

I do have evidence of less file bloat in Library.iPhoto if the original photos are smaller than the 3 megapixel ones in my usual library. However at the moment I don’t have a sufficiently large sample of smaller (<1megapixel) photos to test this further.

Interestingly iPhoto 4 handles the same 6000 photos (all of which have comments) without problems. It has a Library.iPhoto file of 2.1 MB.

Eric-

Have you rebuilt the iPhoto library?

I use it more or less as Spenser does. Also prefer to file off old photos, and start afresh every now and then.

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John McWilliams

Eric Lindsay wrote:

In article <170720052121504722%>, Davoud
wrote:

iPhoto is not intended for or well
suited for pro-level work. Put 100,000 or so photos in the iPhoto library and you’ll soon understand why!

I’ve found to my annoyance that iPhoto 5 becomes unusable (beachball on opening and closing) at around 5,000 photos, which even for an amateur isn’t a lot of digital photos, especially as Apple still claim iPhoto can handle 25,000 photos. This applies whether photos are converted from an iPhoto 4 Library, or whether they are imported as jpg from a second copy of the original photos. The file Library.iPhoto in folder iPhoto Library increases in size by about 32k per photo, getting to over 250MB when I have over 6000 photos.

Wow, this is very different from my experience. My main iPhoto Library has 9377 photos in it right now.

$ ls -l Library.iPhoto
-rw——- 1 kyle kyle 32941878 Jul 16 18:39 Library.iPhoto

8200+ of these are 4.9 megapixel shots, the rest are assorted low resolution photos and scans of photos.

Scrolling thorugh the images seems to stall only when thumbnails are being loaded. If you’re seeing the beachball, it’s probably because your machine is swapping. iPhoto consumes over 500MB of memory when scrolling through my photos. You should open up Activity Monitor, watch system memory while using iPhoto and see if the pageouts number starts rising.

In article ,
(Kyle Jones) wrote:

Eric Lindsay wrote:

I’ve found to my annoyance that iPhoto 5 becomes unusable (beachball on opening and closing) at around 5,000 photos, which even for an amateur isn’t a lot of digital photos, especially as Apple still claim iPhoto can handle 25,000 photos. This applies whether photos are converted from an iPhoto 4 Library, or whether they are imported as jpg from a second copy of the original photos. The file Library.iPhoto in folder iPhoto Library increases in size by about 32k per photo, getting to over 250MB when I have over 6000 photos.

Wow, this is very different from my experience. My main iPhoto Library has 9377 photos in it right now.

$ ls -l Library.iPhoto
-rw——- 1 kyle kyle 32941878 Jul 16 18:39 Library.iPhoto
8200+ of these are 4.9 megapixel shots, the rest are assorted low resolution photos and scans of photos.

I wonder why you have a Library.iPhoto file that is so much smaller than I always get? Thanks for your figures however. I can’t find any way to get my collection of photos (about 6GB) into iPhoto 5.02 or 5.03 without exceeding 250GB of Library.iPhoto. I’ve tried Migration Assistant and updating from iPhoto 4. I’ve tried copying my old iPhoto Library and letting iPhoto 5 update it. I’ve tried opening a new iPhoto 5 library and importing the original photos from my separate copy of them (despite that meaning no comments or keywords). Nothing I can think of works. I’ve trashed preferences, thumbnails, rebuilt libraries (not that this works, since iPhoto crashes eventually), fixed permissions.

Scrolling thorugh the images seems to stall only when thumbnails are being loaded. If you’re seeing the beachball, it’s probably because your machine is swapping. iPhoto consumes over 500MB of memory when scrolling through my photos. You should open up Activity Monitor, watch system memory while using iPhoto and see if the pageouts number starts rising.

When opening and especially when closing iPhoto 5 takes all available memory (typically 800MB), pageouts take off like a rocket and it grabs 4GB of virtual. Plus it takes 95% of CPU. It is basically unusable with 6,000 photos (for me).

What OS version are you using? I have 10.4.2 (happened under 10.4.1 also). Maybe this doesn’t happen under Panther? iPhoto 4 still works fine with 10.4.2 on exactly the same collection of photos, which is why I have reverted to it.

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http://www.ericlindsay.com

Eric Lindsay wrote:

When opening and especially when closing iPhoto 5 takes all available memory (typically 800MB), pageouts take off like a rocket and it grabs 4GB of virtual. Plus it takes 95% of CPU. It is basically unusable with 6,000 photos (for me).

Even the memory usage seems way off. For me iPhoto hits 780MB virtual memory at startup and 1.06GB once all the thumbnails are loaded and iPhoto has been running for a while. I wonder what in the world is going on.

What OS version are you using? I have 10.4.2 (happened under 10.4.1 also). Maybe this doesn’t happen under Panther? iPhoto 4 still works fine with 10.4.2 on exactly the same collection of photos, which is why I have reverted to it.

I’m using 10.4.2, with iPhoto 5.0.3. I’m started using iLife at the ’04 release and let it upgrade my library in place to the ’05 format.

In article <170720051214334512%>, Davoud
wrote:

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

Regardless of why he chooses to use iPhoto, changing to a different image database will not solve his problem.

His problem exists because the Adobe Unit Types file is not in his Library folder where it belongs. Most likely, at some point he has reinstalled OS X.

There are two fixes–move the file from the previous system folder, or reinstall Photoshop. This is by far the most common technical support question asked on Adobe’s forum, and the answer is always the same.

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Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

In article <170720051214334512%>, Davoud
wrote:

Shawn Hirn:

I do my image editing on a dual processor PowerMac G5 with 1GB RAM and Mac OS X 10.4.2. I have the latest iPhoto 5. My problem is that I want to set up iPhoto to edit files in Photoshop CS. With that in mind, I set the iPhoto 5 preference to invoke Photoshop CS. When I double-click a photo from within iPhoto 5, it starts Photoshop CS, but the image does not open into Photoshop CS. The same thing happens regardless of which image I use.

How can I fix this problem?

"sbt" kindly answered that question.

Now, here’s a question you should ask yourself: "I’m using a high-end Mac and a high-end image editor. Why am I using a kindergarten-level image database?"

If you don’t have a good answer to that, i.e., a good reason to be using iPhoto, take a look at iView Media Pro.

I will take a look at iView Media Pro. For me though, iPhoto 5 does what I need and its much better than iPhoto 4.