Partitioning 120GB drive advice please

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Apr 8, 2004
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I have an older machine (PIII/733mhz, 768mb ram, 20GB hard drive,Win98SE) on which I run PS7.
There is only one partition on this entire drive.
I have just installed a second hard drive 120GB primarily for PS and a video editing program.
This drive is cabled with the first hard drive on the same Ide channel. I also want to upgrade to PS8/CS and thus have to either install Win2000 or XP.
Question is how best to use the 120GB space –
considering Windows 2000/xp, the Win swap/paging file, PS, the PS scratch disk, the large PS image/data files, other large video/data files, and other programs.
When I’m all set upI’d like to be able to remove the original 20GB drive and use it elsewhere.
thanks
F

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Camera
Apr 8, 2004
What I am doing currently is one drive for windows OS, one drive for application, one drive for data and one drive for backup. If the OS was down, I can just copy or restore the OS for that partition. It will never affect my data.

"strand"
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jaSPAMc
Apr 8, 2004
I’d suggest a minimum of 40GB for the windoze expis’s use. There will be some programs that won’t install anywhere else!

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:52:54 +1000, "Camera"
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What I am doing currently is one drive for windows OS, one drive for application, one drive for data and one drive for backup. If the OS was down, I can just copy or restore the OS for that partition. It will never affect my data.

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I have an older machine (PIII/733mhz, 768mb ram, 20GB hard drive,Win98SE)
on
which I run PS7.
There is only one partition on this entire drive.
I have just installed a second hard drive 120GB primarily for PS and a
video
editing program.
This drive is cabled with the first hard drive on the same Ide channel. I also want to upgrade to PS8/CS and thus have to either install Win2000
or
XP.
Question is how best to use the 120GB space –
considering Windows 2000/xp, the Win swap/paging file, PS, the PS scratch disk, the large PS image/data files, other large video/data files, and
other
programs.
When I’m all set upI’d like to be able to remove the original 20GB drive
and
use it elsewhere.
thanks
F

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Hecate
Apr 9, 2004
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:22:01 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

I have an older machine (PIII/733mhz, 768mb ram, 20GB hard drive,Win98SE) on which I run PS7.
There is only one partition on this entire drive.
I have just installed a second hard drive 120GB primarily for PS and a video editing program.
This drive is cabled with the first hard drive on the same Ide channel. I also want to upgrade to PS8/CS and thus have to either install Win2000 or XP.
Question is how best to use the 120GB space –
considering Windows 2000/xp, the Win swap/paging file, PS, the PS scratch disk, the large PS image/data files, other large video/data files, and other programs.
When I’m all set upI’d like to be able to remove the original 20GB drive and use it elsewhere.
thanks
F
Don’t ditch the 20Gb drive. Keep it in the machine for the sole use of Photoshop as a scratch disk.



Hecate

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strand
Apr 9, 2004
allocate the entire drive as PS scratch disk ?
I may be way off here, but isn’t about 4x the max file size all you’d ever need as a scratch disk ? So if about 100MB is about as large as any file will get, that makes 400MB and even if i more than doubled that again, it only amounts to 1GB?
I am not arguing the point, but rather trying to learn how to optimize.


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"Hecate" wrote in message
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:22:01 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

I have an older machine (PIII/733mhz, 768mb ram, 20GB hard drive,Win98SE)
on
which I run PS7.
There is only one partition on this entire drive.
I have just installed a second hard drive 120GB primarily for PS and a
video
editing program.
This drive is cabled with the first hard drive on the same Ide channel. I also want to upgrade to PS8/CS and thus have to either install Win2000
or
XP.
Question is how best to use the 120GB space –
considering Windows 2000/xp, the Win swap/paging file, PS, the PS scratch disk, the large PS image/data files, other large video/data files, and
other
programs.
When I’m all set upI’d like to be able to remove the original 20GB drive
and
use it elsewhere.
thanks
F
Don’t ditch the 20Gb drive. Keep it in the machine for the sole use of Photoshop as a scratch disk.



Hecate

veni, vidi, reliqui
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strand
Apr 9, 2004
actually I just read on the adobe site that 10x the largest file size is good for a scratch disk ?
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"Hecate" wrote in message
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:22:01 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

I have an older machine (PIII/733mhz, 768mb ram, 20GB hard drive,Win98SE)
on
which I run PS7.
There is only one partition on this entire drive.
I have just installed a second hard drive 120GB primarily for PS and a
video
editing program.
This drive is cabled with the first hard drive on the same Ide channel. I also want to upgrade to PS8/CS and thus have to either install Win2000
or
XP.
Question is how best to use the 120GB space –
considering Windows 2000/xp, the Win swap/paging file, PS, the PS scratch disk, the large PS image/data files, other large video/data files, and
other
programs.
When I’m all set upI’d like to be able to remove the original 20GB drive
and
use it elsewhere.
thanks
F
Don’t ditch the 20Gb drive. Keep it in the machine for the sole use of Photoshop as a scratch disk.



Hecate

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Hecate
Apr 10, 2004
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:11:55 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

allocate the entire drive as PS scratch disk ?
I may be way off here, but isn’t about 4x the max file size all you’d ever need as a scratch disk ? So if about 100MB is about as large as any file will get, that makes 400MB and even if i more than doubled that again, it only amounts to 1GB?
I am not arguing the point, but rather trying to learn how to optimize.

It depends on whether you want to have lots of undo and/or history capability.

Take 1 100mb file. Add a layer. Now you have to keep the original file in memory plus the one with the layer. And so forth. And the more changes you make, even if the changes are subtle, the more copies you have in memory. Now, depending on your memory size and the size of the image and how much of your memory is allocated to PS, you will quickly get to the stage where PS is farming out copies to the hard disk.

You could easily have several Gb of copies of a complex image. And Photoshop does *not* like those copies to be on the same disk as the Windows scratch file. And I mean the same *physical* disk. (not virtual).

SO a small hard disk, like the 20Gb one is ideal for giving to PS. You could always partition it to, say 2x 10Gb and just use the 10Gb for storage for something that *won’t* be running when Photoshop is, or alternatively make it a second scratch disk for, say Illustrator (as long as you don’t intend to run Illustrator at the same time as PS).

Personally, I’d just give the whole 20Gb to PS. It means that the disk can always be kept clean and properly defragmented.



Hecate

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Hecate
Apr 10, 2004
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:15:41 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

actually I just read on the adobe site that 10x the largest file size is good for a scratch disk ?

See my other post.

Let’s look at that figure. 1 Gb would give you room for 10 copies of a 100Mb file as long as you don’t so anything to that file which makes it’s size larger. In that unlikely event it would mean that, after memory (let’s assume 2 copies in memory) you would have, effectively 12 history levels. Is that enough?



Hecate

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strand
Apr 10, 2004
You’re right – a few gig would make a better ps scratch file, 10 or more


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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:15:41 -0400, "strand"
wrote:

actually I just read on the adobe site that 10x the largest file size is good for a scratch disk ?

See my other post.

Let’s look at that figure. 1 Gb would give you room for 10 copies of a 100Mb file as long as you don’t so anything to that file which makes it’s size larger. In that unlikely event it would mean that, after memory (let’s assume 2 copies in memory) you would have, effectively 12 history levels. Is that enough?



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