Four things I’d like to see

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Alpha_Papa
Feb 1, 2004
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Having been quite a heavy user of PSPro until I outgrew it, four features seem to exist there that I’m having trouble replicating with PSCS:

1. The ability to drag a layer from one document onto the PSCS workspace and thereby automatically create a second documnent in its own window sized only to that layer’s contents. This is a handy feature for layer/object editing/manuipulation. The only way I’ve found close to this ability, is duplicate the document and then delete all layers not of interest in the second document but this of course still leaves the full original document window size.

2. The ability to scan an image and simply create a new document with it by copying and pasting to the PSCS workspace. I am getting around this though using the PSCS Import command and then scanning the image which creates this second document window as a consequnce. Still like point 1 above, it seems there is no way to copy and paste directly to the PSCS blank workspace?

3. The ability to zoom a picture with the mouse which automatically resizes the viewing window both inwards and outwards 100% of the time. It’s easy right now to get the mouse zooming with the wheel. When the wheel becomes unresponsive (something that doesn’t happen with PSPro btw) a quick toggle of the zoom slider in the Navigator palette "wakes" the wheel up again. However, when zooming in, the document window always stays constant needing a drag of the window’s handles to reveal the full picture again. Not essential by any means but a nice time saving feature of benefit to the other program.

4. The ability to make a selection – say via a rectangular marquee, and then be able to apply a drop shadow to it. Some "filter" effects can currently be applied to a selection as such – so long as the selecton contains a filling of some sort. However, in order to apply features such as drop shadows, I’ve found I firstly need to copy the selectiion>create a layer from it and then apply the effect via "layer styles". Therefore, there’s a few extra steps needed with PSCS – and maybe some good ones too, as a times its a good habit to create a separate layer but still the PSPro ability would be a "nice to have" – dare I say, time saver again!

With all that said, PSCS does have many features far superior to PSPro and many of its own interface tweaks I’m sure PSPro will now ve looking to imitate in PSPro "9" whenever that comes along (I’ve already praised the PSCS Text tools elsewhere on this forum for example). All in all – though PSPro 8 made huge leaps recently in its own right, I feel PSCS still maintains a huge edge over its competitor but the 4 items I’ve listed, will ensure that those aspects additionally stay ahead of its nemesis – oh, and help me too 😉

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YrbkMgr
Feb 1, 2004
Alpha,

I too am a PSP convert. Keep in mind that there’s a feature request forum where suggestions are normally scrutinized <wink>.

Re #1:

Nice idea. The way I would do it in photoshop is: Ctrl-Click the layer of interest thereby selecting only the non transparent pixels. Ctrl-C to copy it to Clipboard. File|New. That will automatically size the new image to the size of the contents of clipboard. Then paste.

Re #2:

Again, File|New will take on the characteristics of the contents of Clipboard.

Re #3:

Use the Alt key with the mouse wheel and it will behave the way you expect. Until version 7 it acted the same as in PSP, but the programmers said that if it scrolls the document, it’s more consistent with how the mouse wheel works for everything else. Right or wrong (*cough* wrong!), you have to use the Alt key to zoom with the wheel.

Re #4: Trust me pal. Once you get past the learning curve of Photoshop, this won’t be an issue.

Peace,
Tony
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Alpha_Papa
Feb 1, 2004
Tony thanks for the tip for #1. I can’t seem to be able to replicate it with text possessing layer effects though – even when I rasterize the layer. The text copies over but only in the base color, not with the effects. The good thing is, the new window is perfectly sized.

For #2 scanning – I suppose I’ll just keep using the Import command if need be. Not a big worry.

As for #3 though, thanks again. ALT+wheel does guarantee the ability to zoom via the wheel without disturbance. However, the real issue still appears to remain unresolved – in that though I can zoom in, the window doesn’t resize to accommodate the bigger picture with it.

Of all my wishes that would be number one for now. I’ll take your advice for future wishes and post them on the wishes thread. Only a couple more to come 😉

Adam.
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YrbkMgr
Feb 1, 2004
Adam,

The text copies over but only in the base color, not with the effects.

Little trick. Right click on the layer style and choose Copy Layer Style. Then ctrl click the text layer to select the non transparent pixels, then Ctrl-C to copy, File|New. Once you paste your text, right click on it in the layers palette, and Paste Layer Style.

Or you could have chosen Copy Merged from the edit menu, which would copy all visible layers and effects, then you could do File|New.

For #2 scanning – I suppose I’ll just keep using the Import command if need be. Not a big worry.

In all honesty, I’m not sure how else your trying to scan. That’s the way I’ve scanned with PS since day one. File|Import. The scan driver loads, when I’m done, the image is put into PS. Although I created an Action to initiate the Twain driver automatically…<shrug>

in that though I can zoom in, the window doesn’t resize to accommodate the bigger picture with it.

You’re right, it doesn’t work the same way as in PSP, which I had grown used to as well. But what happens is, as you get more familiar with the feel of photoshop, you’ll find ways to work with your images that are different, but work.

For example, once it becomes second nature to double click on the hand tool to fit to screen or double clicking on the Mag tool to zoom to 100%, then the alt-mouse wheel issue goes away, except when you zoom out. Then you figure out that the space bar is the hand tool so you can easily pan around without clicking on a different tool.

When you zoom out with the Alt-mouse wheel, the window doesn’t resize then either. It acts as it would if you used the key combo to reduce mag (ctrl- minus), or if you used the navigator. To make the window fit on zoom out, you have to use Alt-Mag Glass tool.

But the point is, you begin to work with your image layouts just a bit differently. You might use the tab key to remove all the palettes, or press "f" to work full screen. There are a lot of options and exactly what becomes painful is dependant on how you adapt to how PS works… its "zen" if you will.

Quirky as it may seem, it becomes second nature.

One thing in your favor though… this is the best photoshop forum. Lots of good help here, so you should be cookin’ in no time.

Peace,
Tony
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Ronald_Keller
Feb 2, 2004
Alpha,

Re #1

Yet another way: File>New, while this dialog box is open, go to Window > "name of the file". This creates a new file with the exact same dimensions.
Now you can drag your layer from document to document. (use the Shift key while dragging to put the layer in the center of the document; as both documents have the same dimension this positions the contents of that layer at the same location)

Note that layer styles also can be dragged from one document to another.

Re #4
Not exactly what you are asking but in case you didn’t know: Ctrl + J copies a selection to a new layer.

Kind regards,

Ronald
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Alpha_Papa
Feb 2, 2004
Thanks Ron – re #4, basically in PSPro you can make a selection to which a drop shadow/bevelling etc can be applied directly whether or not it is left on its parent layer or made a layer in its own right. Just a simple thing – but in reality I now think it is always a better idea to create the second layer, in case of a later change of mind!

Re #1 and #3 I suppose if PSPro can do them now easily, I doubt whether the Adobe engineers will let their baby lag behind for too long 😛

I’ve got another general "want" too btw that I’ll put in the right thread shortly.

Adam.

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