PS Display Disappears

AC
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Arnold_Cherdak
Feb 1, 2004
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This is a new thread established at the request of Dave Milbut. The following is a summary of the pertinent parts of the dialog that occurred in another thread. It is duplicated here to provide background for the anticipated conversation to follow:
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PS 7.0 and 7.0.1 running under WinXP Pro. P4EE at 3.2 with 1 GB ram. -PS loads OK to clear screen
-using file/open loads picture of any size OK
-clicking screen background brings up directory segment for picture load selection (as it should) but
—as soon as directory text and icons are fully displayed, or —if directory is clicked before display is complete…

….entire PS display disappears, directory, program display & all. Background Windows screen remains OK after the disappearance.

On some occasions, computer was fast enough to display a ***Windows*** message saying that the application (i.e. the PS program) tried to write into low memory. This wasn’t consistent and I cannot get it to write this any time I want.

I can load the program by (double) clicking on a picture file and I can work on it, print it, save it…so long as I don’t try to click on the background to load a directory to select a new image. I don’t recall whether "Save As…" was a problem.

The "sister" program, Image Ready, had/has the same problem. I reset the PREFS and this didn’t affect it much and I still have the problem with no real solution in sight.

I have re-installed PS 7 and the 7.0.1 upgrade several times to no avail.

Could this be a virus? I use Norton/Symantec and upgrade the virus list frequently without any benefit, so far.

So, I’m stopped and I’m looking for another software solution at this point. I gotta get my work done. There’s a bunch of people getting madder and madder at me every day I don’t deliver.
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ok, not sure if i understand your question though. are you saying ps shuts down when you do a file open? or are you saying that the screen gets corrupted?

if just the screen, update your video drivers.

if ps is completely crashing, please answer the following:

how did you reset the prefs? crtl-alt-shift? did you get the dialog asking if you want to reset ps’s settings? answered yes?

what do you have your windows swap file set to? is it automatic or have you set a max size? if max size, set it to automatic (let windows handle it).

WHERE is your windows swap file? is the drive you have it set up on getting close to running out of space? how much space is left? same questions for PS’s scratch disk… is there enough free space left on the drive where you have the scratch disk? how much?

finally, no, it doesn’t sound like a virus. sounds like a program error we should be able to work out.

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dave
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The screen does not get corrupted in the usual sense nor does PS shut down when a file is opened. The entire PS display "disappears" when I click the mouse button over the directory display from which PS wants me to select an image file to load. Sometimes the PS display disappears when the directory display finishes forming on the screen.

As an additional bit of evidence, a Windows dialog box sometimes opens with a message saying that the application tried to write into a very low memory address. The dialog has an OK button and as soon as I click the OK, the box and the PS display simply disappears. There are no after effects, no apparenr attempts by the system to recover. The system goes on as though PS was never loaded or operating.

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AC
Arnold_Cherdak
Feb 1, 2004
(continued from above message)

The fact that this computer is so very fast tells me that I can’t see any intermediate screen condition since the display probably goes away in less than a video scan time.

Computer is new and has all latest drivers as well as new hardware. Maybe this is a complicating factor. Also, I don’t see that PS is crashing prior to the disappearance.

PREFS were reset several ways. My first reading of the PREFS approach on your web site led me to delete a file…don’t remember a filename but this happened several times. One time a dialog box came up and I opted for that…don’t remember the circumstances. I seem to recall CTRL-SHFT-ALT in there somewhere.

Windows swap files are on default setting…I guess, auto. System runs with a 160 GB RAID-One disk array, one logical "C:" drive. It’s nowhere near full. there’s about 130 GB of free space at this time. This one drive houses all storage functions, Windows swap, all system and application files, and PS scratch.

I’m happy to hear you say it’s probably not a virus. Another party in this mix would make things very much more difficult.
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YrbkMgr
Feb 1, 2004
Arnold,

I’m not sure if this will help or not, but the same (or what sounds to be the same) thing happens to me when I use PS 7 and cut and paste between it and Microsoft Publisher. PS7 entirely disappears, and is not listed in the task manager.

It’s only happened like three times because by the second time I vowed not to cut and paste between these two apps any longer, and do it the long way with saving images and importing them. So I can’t remember exactly how I gracefully exited photoshop – I want to say that with everything else closed, I was able to use Alt and F to get the palettes only to display, and even though the menus weren’t visible, you could still close Photoshop with Alt-F-X.

Still, it required a reboot, but at least I was able to save and close what I had open in PS at the time.

This is a long winded way to say that I know some quirks exist with some applications that may cause that behavior – are you using MS Pub by any chance?

Peace,
Tony
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Arnold_Cherdak
Mar 6, 2004
To All who tried to help:

After several lengthy sessions with tech support from the computer manufacturer (a really sharp bunch I might say), the conclusion was that my installation of Windows was defective in some way.

After I moaned and groaned for several more days and backed up what I could, I erased the hard disk and reinstalled Windows with great care. If I was ten years younger, I wouldn’t have been able to do it. If I was ten years older…who knows. Anyway…

I reformatted the drive, reinstalled Windows and reinstalled as little additional software as I could to check things out. Installed PS, of course. First 7.0, then 7.0.1 updater. BLAZING SUCCESS!!!

ALL weird problems disappeared, PS works like a champ as does each additional piece of software I’ve installed so far. I’m almost back in business again lacking only updating my color management, which I’m working on now.

Cheers,
Arnie
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YrbkMgr
Mar 7, 2004
Thanks for posting the update, and I’m glad you got it sorted.

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