Correcting colour when there isn’t any :o)

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Derek Fountain
Sep 6, 2005
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Have a look at this photograph, taken by a friend of mine at an airshow on a particularly grey day:

http://www.esses.co.uk/bigginhill05/321_2147.htm

I figured I could improve that a bit, but it’s not as easy as it looks. I found a number of ways to lift the colour in the smoke trails, and to boost the contrast a bit, but the sky has me stumped. It’s almost purely even grey, so there’s no colour to manipulate.

My clumsy attempts to colourize, or in some way insert some more pleasing colour (blue sky, for example!) just screws the smoke colours. Making a selection of the sky, without the smoke trails, has proved somewhat tricky.

How would the assembled experts improve this photo?

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Ron
Sep 6, 2005
"Derek Fountain" wrote in message
Have a look at this photograph, taken by a friend of mine at an airshow on a particularly grey day:

http://www.esses.co.uk/bigginhill05/321_2147.htm

I figured I could improve that a bit, but it’s not as easy as it looks. I found a number of ways to lift the colour in the smoke trails, and to boost the contrast a bit, but the sky has me stumped. It’s almost purely even grey, so there’s no colour to manipulate.

My clumsy attempts to colourize, or in some way insert some more pleasing colour (blue sky, for example!) just screws the smoke colours. Making a selection of the sky, without the smoke trails, has proved somewhat tricky.

How would the assembled experts improve this photo?

On that shot, just a simple AutoLevels makes the smoke (and planes) pop rather nicely.

Then go into Color Balance, move the top slider to cyan and the bottom to blue. That gives more definition to the sky and hides the overcast.
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Roger Whitehead
Sep 6, 2005
In article <PVlTe.1787$>, Jeff G
wrote:
On that shot, just a simple AutoLevels makes the smoke (and planes) pop rather nicely.

Then go into Color Balance, move the top slider to cyan and the bottom to blue. That gives more definition to the sky and hides the overcast.

Or try going into Channel Mixer after doing your levels and playing with the red and blue sliders for the blue channel.



Roger
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Kingdom
Sep 7, 2005
Roger Whitehead wrote in
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In article <PVlTe.1787$>,
Jeff G wrote:
On that shot, just a simple AutoLevels makes the smoke (and planes) pop rather nicely.

Then go into Color Balance, move the top slider to cyan and the bottom to blue. That gives more definition to the sky and hides the overcast.

Or try going into Channel Mixer after doing your levels and playing with the red and blue sliders for the blue channel.

CURVES – WITH RGB SELECTED

Make a nice smooth gentel S curve. klick ok

bring curves up again SELECT THE BLUE CHANNEL

Make a nice gentle curve bowing UP the way klick ok

bring curves up again SELECT THE RED CHANNEL

Make a nice gentle curve bowing DOWN the way klick ok

Perfect blue skies!

pull the curve very slightly down and the sky will go blue, howeve the white smoke fades, to reduce this effect peg thr curve


f=Ma well, nearly…
TN
Tom Nelson
Sep 8, 2005
How’s this?
http://www.tnphoto.com/321_2147_clr.jpg
I made another layer under the airplane layer and filled it with a blue-to-blue gradient, then ran Filter>Render>Clouds on it. I changed the blend mode of the airplane layer to Hard Light and voilá!

Tom Nelson
Tom Nelson Photography

In article <431de618$0$2799$>,
Derek Fountain wrote:

Have a look at this photograph, taken by a friend of mine at an airshow on a particularly grey day:

http://www.esses.co.uk/bigginhill05/321_2147.htm

I figured I could improve that a bit, but it’s not as easy as it looks. I found a number of ways to lift the colour in the smoke trails, and to boost the contrast a bit, but the sky has me stumped. It’s almost purely even grey, so there’s no colour to manipulate.

My clumsy attempts to colourize, or in some way insert some more pleasing colour (blue sky, for example!) just screws the smoke colours. Making a selection of the sky, without the smoke trails, has proved somewhat tricky.

How would the assembled experts improve this photo?
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jenelisepasceci
Sep 12, 2005
Derek Fountain wrote:

Have a look at this photograph, taken by a friend of mine at an airshow on a particularly grey day:

http://www.esses.co.uk/bigginhill05/321_2147.htm

I figured I could improve that a bit, but it’s not as easy as it looks. I found a number of ways to lift the colour in the smoke trails, and to boost the contrast a bit, but the sky has me stumped. It’s almost purely even grey, so there’s no colour to manipulate.

My clumsy attempts to colourize, or in some way insert some more pleasing colour (blue sky, for example!) just screws the smoke colours. Making a selection of the sky, without the smoke trails, has proved somewhat tricky.

How would the assembled experts improve this photo?

I got Dan Margulis’ canyon conundrum book last friday and after reading the first chapters found your photo serves well as an example of what can be done in LAB, or cannot, if Timo is right 😉

At http://tinyurl.com/b2zmh you will find my – a little bit exaggerated – version as a jpeg. If you like the result, you can download the psd file to which it links and pull the curves adjustment layer to your original, which you will have to convert to LAB first.

Peter

The page will disappear within a week or so!
DF
Derek Fountain
Sep 14, 2005
Tom Nelson wrote:
How’s this?
http://www.tnphoto.com/321_2147_clr.jpg
I made another layer under the airplane layer and filled it with a blue-to-blue gradient, then ran Filter>Render>Clouds on it. I changed the blend mode of the airplane layer to Hard Light and voilá!

Much better than anything I got close to. I’ll experiment with your technique tonight. Thanks for the input.
DF
Derek Fountain
Sep 14, 2005
I got Dan Margulis’ canyon conundrum book last friday and after reading the first chapters found your photo serves well as an example of what can be done in LAB, or cannot, if Timo is right 😉
At http://tinyurl.com/b2zmh you will find my – a little bit exaggerated – version as a jpeg. If you like the result, you can download the psd file to which it links and pull the curves adjustment layer to your original, which you will have to convert to LAB first.

That’s remarkable. I guess to most people it just looks like a colour correction, but to me, the guy who spent an hour fiddling about in RGB space trying to get what I wanted, and thus who understands exactly how hard it was, it’s astonishing.

Perhaps I ought to buy that book!
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RSD99
Sep 14, 2005
"Derek Fountain" wrote in message
I got Dan Margulis’ canyon conundrum book last friday and after reading the first chapters found your photo serves well as an example of what can be done in LAB, or cannot, if Timo is right 😉
At http://tinyurl.com/b2zmh you will find my – a little bit exaggerated – version as a jpeg. If you like the result, you can download the psd file to which it links and pull the curves adjustment layer to your original, which you will have to convert to LAB first.

That’s remarkable. I guess to most people it just looks like a colour correction, but to me, the guy who spent an hour fiddling about in RGB space trying to get what I wanted, and thus who understands exactly how hard it was, it’s astonishing.

Perhaps I ought to buy that book!

ALL of Dan Margulis’ books are worthwhile investments (IMHO).
MR
Mike Russell
Sep 16, 2005
"Derek Fountain" wrote in message
I got Dan Margulis’ canyon conundrum book last friday and after reading the first chapters found your photo serves well as an example of what can be done in LAB, or cannot, if Timo is right 😉
At http://tinyurl.com/b2zmh you will find my – a little bit exaggerated – version as a jpeg. If you like the result, you can download the psd file to which it links and pull the curves adjustment layer to your original, which you will have to convert to LAB first.

That’s remarkable. I guess to most people it just looks like a colour correction, but to me, the guy who spent an hour fiddling about in RGB space trying to get what I wanted, and thus who understands exactly how hard it was, it’s astonishing.

Here’s another version using Lab and the Curvemeister plugin, which has a number of features to help correct an RGB image directly in Lab. http://mike.russell-home.net/tmp/airshow/

Perhaps I ought to buy that book!

This is a hot book It’s turned out to be a best-seller, and after less than a month it is already in its second printing. I’m happy to say that Curvemeister is mentioned in it.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

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