CS vs. CS2 speed

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winhag
Sep 12, 2005
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Folks,

I have Photshop CS and would like to upgrade to CS2. However, my PC is not very high perfomance (PIII 600 MHz). Will I see a significant performance hit (i.e. is CS2 slower than CS for similar operations) ?

Thanks

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Clyde
Sep 12, 2005
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Folks,

I have Photshop CS and would like to upgrade to CS2. However, my PC is not very high perfomance (PIII 600 MHz). Will I see a significant performance hit (i.e. is CS2 slower than CS for similar operations) ?
Thanks

W

How much memory do you have? How much memory does your video card have?

Doing Photoshop on your machine must be very painful.

Clyde
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winhag
Sep 13, 2005
512MB of RAM not sure about the video card. As long as my images are less than 150MB it is not too bad. But I am concerned about additional overhead of CS2 slowing things down significantly.
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Clyde
Sep 13, 2005
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512MB of RAM not sure about the video card. As long as my images are less than 150MB it is not too bad. But I am concerned about additional overhead of CS2 slowing things down significantly.

I’m not sure anyone else is either. I’m sure there isn’t a large body of experience of CS2 on hardware like yours. I doubt Adobe has done a bunch of testing on computers like yours either.

You are probably going to have try it yourself.

Clyde
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winhag
Sep 13, 2005
I am looking for a relative answer here. If people in general find that CS2 is noticeably slower on any machine, I would have concern on my machine for sure. Have you gone from CS to CS2? do you notice a performance difference?

Thanks for your responses

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Destin_FL
Sep 13, 2005
Going from CS to CS2 on my old Dell 4550 was painless. No difference in speed at all. They both fly. 128 MB video, 1 GB ram.

Tim

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I am looking for a relative answer here. If people in general find that CS2 is noticeably slower on any machine, I would have concern on my machine for sure. Have you gone from CS to CS2? do you notice a performance difference?

Thanks for your responses

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Clyde
Sep 14, 2005
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I am looking for a relative answer here. If people in general find that CS2 is noticeably slower on any machine, I would have concern on my machine for sure. Have you gone from CS to CS2? do you notice a performance difference?

Thanks for your responses

W

I didn’t notice any significant difference going from CS to CS2. Actually I think a few things were slightly faster. However, I never tested them for speed.

Remember that newsgroups and forums are a really bad places to gather statistics on problems. They are places where problems are reported and colleagues try to work around them. So, you are likely to always get the negative side of things. i.e. You may see 15 people have a slowdown problem in CS2. They may be very vocal about it. What you don’t see is a million people who don’t have that problem, because very few spend a lot of time writing messages "my program works fine".

CS2 is very likely to be just a painfully slow on your computer as CS was. If you wanted to be really careful about it, don’t upgrade until the ".01" upgrade comes out. That’s when most of the bugs get fixed.

Clyde
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neon
Sep 15, 2005
Clyde wrote:
wrote:

I am looking for a relative answer here. If people in general find that CS2 is noticeably slower on any machine, I would have concern on my machine for sure. Have you gone from CS to CS2? do you notice a performance difference?

Thanks for your responses

W

I didn’t notice any significant difference going from CS to CS2. Actually I think a few things were slightly faster. However, I never tested them for speed.

Remember that newsgroups and forums are a really bad places to gather statistics on problems. They are places where problems are reported and colleagues try to work around them. So, you are likely to always get the negative side of things. i.e. You may see 15 people have a slowdown problem in CS2. They may be very vocal about it. What you don’t see is a million people who don’t have that problem, because very few spend a lot of time writing messages "my program works fine".
CS2 is very likely to be just a painfully slow on your computer as CS was. If you wanted to be really careful about it, don’t upgrade until the ".01" upgrade comes out. That’s when most of the bugs get fixed.
Clyde
why not get the trial version and see how it runs? unless you have upgraded your video card that could be a problem. adobe recommends 128 m or more of vram. more ram would help too. clyde’s right…you porbably hear more from people who have noticed negative differences in performance than those who haven’t. and it must be agonizing working on a machine as underpowered as yours.
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winhag
Sep 15, 2005
How does CS use the ‘extra’ VRAM? Does it use it to cache image data? I would like to understand how this impacts performance so if I get a new machine I get an appropriate card.
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Clyde
Sep 15, 2005
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How does CS use the ‘extra’ VRAM? Does it use it to cache image data? I would like to understand how this impacts performance so if I get a new machine I get an appropriate card.

Ah, therein lies the rub. We don’t know. Adobe hasn’t given us the specs on the internal workings of CS2. They aren’t likely to either.

We’ll just have to wait and see. Luckily mine is working nice and fast; it’s easy to wait then.

Clyde
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winhag
Sep 15, 2005
Your idea about getting the trial idea is not a bad one. However, I am not sure if that would supplant my version of CS and cause me all kinds of grief if I wanted to stop using it and return to my normal CS setup afterwards.
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Lorem Ipsum
Sep 15, 2005
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Your idea about getting the trial idea is not a bad one. However, I am not sure if that would supplant my version of CS and cause me all kinds of grief if I wanted to stop using it and return to my normal CS setup afterwards.

Nope. CS2 installs separately. It is not commingeled with CS. You can install, use it, deinstall and be just fine. No excuses.
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KatWoman
Sep 15, 2005
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Your idea about getting the trial idea is not a bad one. However, I am not sure if that would supplant my version of CS and cause me all kinds of grief if I wanted to stop using it and return to my normal CS setup afterwards.

just make sure any saves are in the older CS format, as one unhappy trial ware user here discovered after 30 days you won’t be able to open your files in CS if you saved them in CS2.

That CS2 files are not backward compatible is another stupid move on Adobe part. If another designer used CS2 and I have CS I won’t be able to open their files. As so many small shops don’t upgrade right away and there is always that overlap of users with different versions it seems kind of stupid. It’s almost like Adobe is trying to piss off the loyal users. Why change the terminology everyone has already gotten used to? Why change the short cut features?
why make activation so difficult for paying users?
if the "save as" only goes back to what you already saved, then it is exactly opposite the present workflow. A nasty surprise if you just install and use it as you did with CS.

this is one upgrade I am NOT looking forward to at all. If bridge is as big a DOG as their crappy file browser I will not be a happy camper.
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Mike Russell
Sep 16, 2005
"KatWoman" wrote in message
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this is one upgrade I am NOT looking forward to at all. If bridge is as big a DOG as their crappy file browser I will not be a happy camper.

Bridge has serious performance issues, and I know of at least two people who have gone back to CS because of this. If you have a choice, you may want to hold off until they are resolved.


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Clyde
Sep 16, 2005
KatWoman wrote:
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Your idea about getting the trial idea is not a bad one. However, I am not sure if that would supplant my version of CS and cause me all kinds of grief if I wanted to stop using it and return to my normal CS setup afterwards.

just make sure any saves are in the older CS format, as one unhappy trial ware user here discovered after 30 days you won’t be able to open your files in CS if you saved them in CS2.

That CS2 files are not backward compatible is another stupid move on Adobe part. If another designer used CS2 and I have CS I won’t be able to open their files. As so many small shops don’t upgrade right away and there is always that overlap of users with different versions it seems kind of stupid. It’s almost like Adobe is trying to piss off the loyal users. Why change the terminology everyone has already gotten used to? Why change the short cut features?
why make activation so difficult for paying users?
if the "save as" only goes back to what you already saved, then it is exactly opposite the present workflow. A nasty surprise if you just install and use it as you did with CS.

this is one upgrade I am NOT looking forward to at all. If bridge is as big a DOG as their crappy file browser I will not be a happy camper.

Bridge is no dog for me. It feels like it runs slightly faster than File Browser. It certainly has significant feature improvements. Bridge was and is one of the biggest reasons I upgraded to CS2.

I love it’s interface and workflow improvements. I love that Bridge will work with any file and any associated application. For example, it will open any vector graphics in CorelDraw as default. I can change the association in Bridge and it links to the OS.

I love Bridge and would never go back.

Clyde
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winhag
Sep 16, 2005
Wow, some divergent opinions. On my current machine, file browser is a bit slow ( 🙁 ). My main reasons for wanting
to upgrade to CS2 are:

– Barrel distortion correction
– Improved (maybe just interface?) RAW file handling
– Smart sharpen/lens blur – Everyone seems to be saying this is more of a true blur deconvolver with less USM/halo type artifacts. – Some other features which are not coming to mind now.

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Lorem Ipsum
Sep 16, 2005
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Wow, some divergent opinions. On my current machine, file browser is a bit slow ( 🙁 ). My main reasons for wanting
to upgrade to CS2 are:

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– Some other features which are not coming to mind now.

That would be the CRS filter.
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Clyde
Sep 17, 2005
Lorem Ipsum wrote:
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Wow, some divergent opinions. On my current machine, file browser is a bit slow ( 🙁 ). My main reasons for wanting
to upgrade to CS2 are:

[…]
– Some other features which are not coming to mind now.

That would be the CRS filter.

I’m afraid I’ve had that for several versions. While it’s getting stronger with each version, I wouldn’t call it improving.

Clyde
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Clyde
Sep 17, 2005
wrote:
Wow, some divergent opinions. On my current machine, file browser is a bit slow ( 🙁 ). My main reasons for wanting
to upgrade to CS2 are:

– Barrel distortion correction
– Improved (maybe just interface?) RAW file handling
– Smart sharpen/lens blur – Everyone seems to be saying this is more of a true blur deconvolver with less USM/halo type artifacts. – Some other features which are not coming to mind now.

W

I use PTLens for barrel distortion correction and it works fine in CS2.

The Adobe Camera RAW has improved features that go beyond the interface. The one that I don’t remember reading about is that "Auto" settings for the sliders. For most of my photographs that is a real speed feature. I want to get everything in bounds with RAW and then adjust with CurveMeister. There are a number of settings and added features that do come in handy. If you use RAW a lot, seriously consider upgrading to CS2.

I found Smart Sharpen a slight improvement over USM. It still wasn’t as good as my Focus Magic plugin.

Another thing I didn’t count on was the added options in creating PDF files. That was kind of nice.

Smart Object and the Vanishing Point filter seems like great ideas, but I haven’t had time to play with them yet.

Clyde
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Hecate
Sep 18, 2005
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:47:16 -0400, "KatWoman" wrote:

this is one upgrade I am NOT looking forward to at all. If bridge is as big a DOG as their crappy file browser I will not be a happy camper.
It’s not so much a dog as a whole bloody pack 🙂

But I use ThumbsPlus, so I don’t care.

ACR is improved, but it’s still nowhere near as good as CaptureOne or RSE.

The new perspective fix is very useful though, as is the ability to use HDR files.



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John McWilliams
Sep 28, 2005
KatWoman wrote:
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Your idea about getting the trial idea is not a bad one. However, I am not sure if that would supplant my version of CS and cause me all kinds of grief if I wanted to stop using it and return to my normal CS setup afterwards.

just make sure any saves are in the older CS format, as one unhappy trial ware user here discovered after 30 days you won’t be able to open your files in CS if you saved them in CS2.

CS I has a Pref. to save in a mode that’s compatible with previous versions of PS. Are you quite sure this Pref isn’t there, but simply overlooked?


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