So does CS have SOME vecors or not?

Lorem Ipsum wrote:

An earlier post claimed that PS doesn’t have any vector graphics, in particular that paths are, somehow, not really vectors. Add to this a query about fonts. Well, is it true? CS somehow ‘fakes’ vector graphics in some SPECIFIC features?

It depends on who gives you the answer (yes that was my post as afore mentioned). Diehard fans of photoshop will defend the ‘idea’ that the pen tool is essentially a vector creator. While others will say the definition of a vector (roughly) is something that can be zoomed in on ‘infinitely’ and will retain it’s true shape (non-pixelated). Flash is a good program to demonstrate ‘true’ vectors. But what it boils down to, photoshop can give the illusion of vectors, but it’s not true vectors – it’s all rasterized. The more you zoom in, the more pixelated it will appear. I hope this answers your question – but we’ll see what side others take.

photoshop can give the illusion of vectors, but it’s not true vectors – it’s all rasterized. The more you zoom in, the more pixelated it will appear. I hope this answers your question – but we’ll see what side others take.

I take the pen tool, and draw a path with it. Zoom in to 1600% and the path is still smooth – not pixelated at all.

Hmmm….

Crowder,Jakob Larry wrote:

Lorem Ipsum wrote:

An earlier post claimed that PS doesn’t have any vector graphics, in particular that paths are, somehow, not really vectors. Add to this a query about fonts. Well, is it true? CS somehow ‘fakes’ vector graphics in some SPECIFIC features?

It depends on who gives you the answer (yes that was my post as afore mentioned). Diehard fans of photoshop will defend the ‘idea’ that the pen tool is essentially a vector creator. While others will say the definition of a vector (roughly) is something that can be zoomed in on ‘infinitely’ and will retain it’s true shape (non-pixelated). Flash is a good program to demonstrate ‘true’ vectors. But what it boils down to, photoshop can give the illusion of vectors, but it’s not true vectors – it’s all rasterized. The more you zoom in, the more pixelated it will appear. I hope this answers your question – but we’ll see what side others take.

Paths that are drawn with the pen tool (and other vector tools) in PS are 100% vector. Just soom in as much as you like and you’ll see they are still smooth. You can also export the vectors to EPS…

Waldo

Waldo wrote:

Crowder,Jakob Larry wrote:

Lorem Ipsum wrote:

An earlier post claimed that PS doesn’t have any vector graphics, in particular that paths are, somehow, not really vectors. Add to this a query about fonts. Well, is it true? CS somehow ‘fakes’ vector graphics in some SPECIFIC features?

It depends on who gives you the answer (yes that was my post as afore mentioned). Diehard fans of photoshop will defend the ‘idea’ that the pen tool is essentially a vector creator. While others will say the definition of a vector (roughly) is something that can be zoomed in on ‘infinitely’ and will retain it’s true shape (non-pixelated). Flash is a good program to demonstrate ‘true’ vectors. But what it boils down to, photoshop can give the illusion of vectors, but it’s not true vectors – it’s all rasterized. The more you zoom in, the more pixelated it will appear. I hope this answers your question – but we’ll see what side others take.

Paths that are drawn with the pen tool (and other vector tools) in PS are 100% vector. Just soom in as much as you like and you’ll see they are still smooth. You can also export the vectors to EPS…
Waldo

And when you fill or stroke these paths? The case is different. Except in other programs such as Flash where it never becomes pixelated till you export it.

Jake wrote:

Waldo wrote:

Paths that are drawn with the pen tool (and other vector tools) in PS are 100% vector. Just soom in as much as you like and you’ll see they are still smooth. You can also export the vectors to EPS…
Waldo

And when you fill or stroke these paths?

Then a rasterized representation of them is produced in the image data. The path is not part of the image data, it is path data.

Andrew

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Jake wrote:

Waldo wrote:

Paths that are drawn with the pen tool (and other vector tools) in PS are 100% vector. Just soom in as much as you like and you’ll see they are still smooth. You can also export the vectors to EPS…
Waldo

And when you fill or stroke these paths?

Then a rasterized representation of them is produced in the image data. The path is not part of the image data, it is path data.

There have been several inaccurate statements in this thread.

It is true that Photoshop is basically a raster image based program. It is also true that Photoshop has vector support for a number of functions, including filled and stroked shapes, true type fonts, fonts as shapes, stroked and filled paths, clipping paths, and vector masks. All of these have modifiable vector components, and may be zoomed in with out jaggies. Vector data may be exported as eps or pdf.
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

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"Lorem Ipsum" wrote:

An earlier post claimed that PS doesn’t have any vector graphics, in particular that paths are, somehow, not really vectors. Add to this a query about fonts. Well, is it true? CS somehow ‘fakes’ vector graphics in some SPECIFIC features?

CS does allow some limited vector objects. Paths are true vector objects. So are shape layers and type, in a fashion; the outline of the objects is vector, but the fill is raster.

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"Crowder,Jakob Larry" wrote:

It depends on who gives you the answer (yes that was my post as afore mentioned). Diehard fans of photoshop will defend the ‘idea’ that the pen tool is essentially a vector creator. While others will say the definition of a vector (roughly) is something that can be zoomed in on ‘infinitely’ and will retain it’s true shape (non-pixelated).

A Pen path is a mathematical object and can be "zoomed in" on indefinitely.

A Pen path does not have a stroke, though. If you stroke it or fill it, the (non-printing) path is vector but the stroke or fill is raster.

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the outline of the objects is vector, but the fill is raster.

Yep, essential but important to note.

Bart