Color diff in PS & image viewer

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Ender
Nov 16, 2005
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I’ve noticed that images look much better from within PhotoShop cs than when pulled up in a viewer. In short, the color is much richer and closer to true life. I color correct in raw with a WhiBal card (black, white and 18% gray) and shoot with a 1d markII 70-200 2.8 is, usm. I’ve looked at things like color space and 8 v 16 bit and even diff resolutions and formats but still nothing. I’ve tried several different apps like ADSee and even from within Acrobat and though I’ve seen slight differences nothing I’ve tried can match the fabulous color in PS…..tia

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Bill Hilton
Nov 16, 2005
I’ve noticed that images look much better from within PhotoShop cs than when pulled up in a viewer. In short, the color is much richer and closer to true life.

Photoshop is using your monitor ICM profile while many "viewers" don’t since they aren’t ‘color managed’ in the ICC workflow sense. You can bypass the monitor profile in Photoshop to see if this is the cause. Also, Photoshop recognizes your "working space" profile correctly, which is probably AdobeRGB or something with an even wider gamut, while many "viewers" don’t recognize any working spaces or perhaps assume you’re in sRGB (like PaintShop Pro for example). This tends to dull down saturated colors, especially reds and oranges.

Convert the file to sRGB and turn off the monitor profile and it will probably look as dull in Photoshop as it does in the other non-color managed apps.

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Brian
Nov 16, 2005
Ender wrote:
I’ve noticed that images look much better from within PhotoShop cs than when pulled up in a viewer. In short, the color is much richer and closer to true life. I color correct in raw with a WhiBal card (black, white and 18% gray) and shoot with a 1d markII 70-200 2.8 is, usm. I’ve looked at things like color space and 8 v 16 bit and even diff resolutions and formats but still nothing. I’ve tried several different apps like ADSee and even from within Acrobat and though I’ve seen slight differences nothing I’ve tried can match the fabulous color in PS…..tia
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I think you will find that because you have Colour Management set up in PS and not in those other programmes, that is why there is a difference in colour representation. The other programmes are not using the same colour profiles you are using in PS.

Brian.
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m.golner
Nov 17, 2005
Ender wrote:
I’ve noticed that images look much better from within PhotoShop cs than when pulled up in a viewer. In short, the color is much richer and closer to true life. I color correct in raw with a WhiBal card (black, white and 18% gray) and shoot with a 1d markII 70-200 2.8 is, usm. I’ve looked at things like color space and 8 v 16 bit and even diff resolutions and formats but still nothing. I’ve tried several different apps like ADSee and even from within Acrobat and though I’ve seen slight differences nothing I’ve tried can match the fabulous color in PS…..tia
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If your images are in Adobe RGB color space, *convert* them to sRGB in Photoshop or another utility. They should then display much brighter (more vivid color) in non-color managed apps, such as most viewers and browsers.

You can easily do a quick visual check of this using Photoshop proofing. In View > Proof Setup > Custom, set the Profile to sRGB and toggle the Preserve Color Numbers checkbox. With the box unchecked, you will see what the image will look like when *converted* to sRGB from Adobe RGB, assuming that’s the color space you image is saved in. Toggle the Preview checkbox to see the effect of the conversion. It should be almost imperceptible. Now *check* the Preserve Color Numbers checkbox. The image should dull down quite a bit. This is very close to what an Adobe RGB image will look like in an application that doesn’t color manage, since sRGB was specifically devised to represent the gamut and wp/bp characteristics of a typical monitor in an un-color managed environment (such as the internet).

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