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"kctan" wrote in message

Thanks for your advice. I don’t understand your cultures but I thought this is a place for us to learn from each other and definitely don’t expect foul-mouthed people like voivods.

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some of the worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel compared to what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough good people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.
Usenet being what it is, the abusive behavior will never stop. It’s necessary to get over it and ignore poor behavior to benefit from this group. As a regular on this group, I get attacked and insulted routinely by people who have no interest in Photoshop knowledge. I never notice because I make generous use of "Block sender" and "Ignore Conversation". If any flames do get through, I ignore them almost without reading them.
But Usenet flames continue because so many people react strongly to personal attacks and insults, and cannot resist replying to them in kind. Good people have simply been driven away.

Fortunately, there are protected forums such as the delightful www.flickr.com, www.myjanee.com, and the various groups at www.groups.yahoo.com . Curvemeister and Photoshop Elements have yahoo groups. There you will find supportive and knowledgeable people who have absolutely no interest in ruining your day.

BTW – Adobe supports a large number of moderated forums. Although somewhat better than this group they are more flame-ridden than the other groups that I mentioned.

But Usenet flames continue because so many people react strongly to personal attacks and insults, and cannot resist replying to them in kind.

"kctan" wrote in message

Thanks for your advice. I don’t understand your cultures but I thought this is a place for us to learn from each other and definitely don’t expect foul-mouthed people like voivods.

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some of the worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel compared to what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough good people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.
Usenet being what it is, the abusive behavior will never stop. It’s necessary to get over it and ignore poor behavior to benefit from this group. As a regular on this group, I get attacked and insulted routinely by people who have no interest in Photoshop knowledge. I never notice because I make generous use of "Block sender" and "Ignore Conversation". If any flames do get through, I ignore them almost without reading them.
But Usenet flames continue because so many people react strongly to personal attacks and insults, and cannot resist replying to them in kind. Good people have simply been driven away.

Fortunately, there are protected forums such as the delightful www.flickr.com, www.myjanee.com, and the various groups at www.groups.yahoo.com . Curvemeister and Photoshop Elements have yahoo groups. There you will find supportive and knowledgeable people who have absolutely no interest in ruining your day.

BTW – Adobe supports a large number of moderated forums. Although somewhat better than this group they are more flame-ridden than the other groups that I mentioned.
—
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

And who’s to blame for people not being able to control themselves?
Me?

":^)

"kctan" wrote in message

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some of the worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel compared to what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough good people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.

In article <ZiJlf.36669$>,
"Mike Russell" wrote:

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some of

worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel compared

what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough good people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.

Fortunately, most newsreaders have killfiles. 🙂

The abusers end up in my killfile quickly, and I never see anything they write any more.

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

"mike" wrote in message news:BFBCD325.5D162%

And who’s to blame for people not being able to control themselves?
Me?

":^) ®

The tormentor is always to blame for the reactions of his victim

…
Fortunately, there are protected forums such as the delightful www.flickr.com, www.myjanee.com, and the various groups at www.groups.yahoo.com . Curvemeister and Photoshop Elements have yahoo groups. There you will find supportive and knowledgeable people who have absolutely no interest in ruining your day.

It’s only words on the screen and the each reader decides for himself on the value of those words.

I’m here because I am collecting all of the great tips and am going to put out a book on PS tips that can be actually understood.

"tacit" wrote in message

In article <ZiJlf.36669$>,
"Mike Russell" wrote:

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some of

the

worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel compared

to

what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough good people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.

Fortunately, most newsreaders have killfiles. 🙂

The abusers end up in my killfile quickly, and I never see anything they write any more.

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

I’m here because I am collecting all of the great tips and am going to put out a
book on PS tips that can be actually understood.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:05:21 -0500, "Scruff" scribbled:

"tacit" wrote in message

In article <ZiJlf.36669$>,
"Mike Russell" wrote:

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some

the

worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel

to

what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough

people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.

Fortunately, most newsreaders have killfiles. 🙂

The abusers end up in my killfile quickly, and I never see anything

write any more.

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

I’m here because I am collecting all of the great tips and am going to

out a
book on PS tips that can be actually understood.

And you’re ready to be sued by everyone who can prove with a datestamp on Google that you plagerized their advice?

"Voivod" wrote in message

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:05:21 -0500, "Scruff" scribbled:

"tacit" wrote in message

In article <ZiJlf.36669$>,
"Mike Russell" wrote:

As the years pass, the value of this forum, unfortunately, has been decreasing due to abusive conduct such as you are discussing. Some

of

the

worst offenders of years past, including Mike C, seem genteel

compared

to

what is happening here today. In spite of this, there are enough

good

people participating here to make it worth sorting through the chaff.

Fortunately, most newsreaders have killfiles. 🙂

The abusers end up in my killfile quickly, and I never see anything

they

write any more.

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

I’m here because I am collecting all of the great tips and am going to

put

out a
book on PS tips that can be actually understood.

And you’re ready to be sued by everyone who can prove with a datestamp on Google that you plagerized their advice?

From their posts on Usenet? I think not. Checked it out, all legal. I won’t be using names or copyrighted items.
Just the stuff from here that so many explain so well.
In fact, I’ll be using a lot of your stuff. I’ve been collecting for quite a while now.

In fact, I’ll be using a lot of your stuff. I’ve been collecting for quite a while now.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:08:32 -0500, "Scruff" wrote: in reply to Voided:

In fact, I’ll be using a lot of your stuff. I’ve been collecting for

while now.

Usually a "book" has more than two pages.
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

… One Tacit compensates for 100 kooks.