descreen on or off?

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Nikko
May 24, 2004
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I just scanned the same picture twice. Once with Descreen off but the Unsharp Mask on, the second with Descreen on and no Unsharp Mask (won’t let me pick both at the same time- I assume that’s standard?). The file with Descreen on is 1.25 MB, while the one with it off is 2.5 MB. Any reason for the discrepancy? I’m just wondering why the first file is so small. Am I losing information and, as a result, picture quality?

Is there a general consensus on the effectiveness of Descreen? Is there a better way to fix the moir

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Marvin Margoshes
May 24, 2004
"Nikko" wrote in message
I just scanned the same picture twice. Once with Descreen off but the Unsharp Mask on, the second with Descreen on and no Unsharp Mask (won’t
let
me pick both at the same time- I assume that’s standard?). The file with Descreen on is 1.25 MB, while the one with it off is 2.5 MB. Any reason
for
the discrepancy? I’m just wondering why the first file is so small. Am I losing information and, as a result, picture quality?

Is there a general consensus on the effectiveness of Descreen? Is there a better way to fix the moir
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Eric Gill
May 24, 2004
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"Nikko" wrote in message
I just scanned the same picture twice. Once with Descreen off but the Unsharp Mask on, the second with Descreen on and no Unsharp Mask (won’t
let
me pick both at the same time- I assume that’s standard?). The file with Descreen on is 1.25 MB, while the one with it off is 2.5 MB. Any reason
for
the discrepancy? I’m just wondering why the first file is so small. Am I losing information and, as a result, picture quality?
Is there a general consensus on the effectiveness of Descreen? Is there a better way to fix the moir
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Ron Hunter
May 24, 2004
Nikko wrote:

I just scanned the same picture twice. Once with Descreen off but the Unsharp Mask on, the second with Descreen on and no Unsharp Mask (won’t let me pick both at the same time- I assume that’s standard?). The file with Descreen on is 1.25 MB, while the one with it off is 2.5 MB. Any reason for the discrepancy? I’m just wondering why the first file is so small. Am I losing information and, as a result, picture quality?

Is there a general consensus on the effectiveness of Descreen? Is there a better way to fix the moiré (or whatever it’s called – sorry, I’m a novice) using other software? I have both Photoshop 6.0 and Elements 2.0, should either of those help. Or is it better to make the adjustment with the scanner itself?

Any advice you can pass along to this newbie would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, you are losing the objectionable moire patterns, and the extra file size they generate. Descreening does add some processing time to the scan, but fixing this problem at the scanner seems the best approach in my experience.
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Nikko
May 24, 2004
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Disregard that completely – exactly the opposite is true. It’s better to descreen at scan time.

A possible reason for the size difference is some scanners limit the resolution they will use in Descreen mode. A second option is that you are saving in JPEG; descreening can defocus an image, which compresses better, sometimes remarkably so.

I guess I’m confused. The image I descreened does indeed look less sharp (i.e. less focused). Isn’t this bad? Am I missing something?
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Eric Gill
May 24, 2004
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Disregard that completely – exactly the opposite is true. It’s better to descreen at scan time.

A possible reason for the size difference is some scanners limit the resolution they will use in Descreen mode. A second option is that you are saving in JPEG; descreening can defocus an image, which compresses better, sometimes remarkably so.

I guess I’m confused. The image I descreened does indeed look less sharp (i.e. less focused). Isn’t this bad?

Depends.

It’s a tradeoff. Less sharp for no nasty pattern.

Your call on how much sharpness you want to give up, i.e., is the picture going to look worse soft or screened?

Am I missing something?

Nope. This is more an art than a science. Some scanners are better than others, some screen patterns are worse or non-standard and therefore aren’t handled well by automatic descreening.
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Ron Hunter
May 25, 2004
Nikko wrote:

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"Marvin Margoshes" wrote in
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Disregard that completely – exactly the opposite is true. It’s better to descreen at scan time.

A possible reason for the size difference is some scanners limit the resolution they will use in Descreen mode. A second option is that you are saving in JPEG; descreening can defocus an image, which compresses better, sometimes remarkably so.

I guess I’m confused. The image I descreened does indeed look less sharp (i.e. less focused). Isn’t this bad? Am I missing something?
Yes, it IS less focused, but then that is MUCH better than the moire patterns. Try testing to see for yourself. You can sharpen after the scan.

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