unsharp mask ????

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May 28, 2004
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When a picture is a bit out of focus I have been told the best way to help it is by using the unsharp mask. How do you do this? What is the best settings for the Amount Radius and threshold ? Are is there a better way to do this?

Thanks for the time
Ron

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Tabasco1
May 28, 2004
"Ron&Joyce" wrote in message
When a picture is a bit out of focus I have been told the best way to help it is by using the unsharp mask. How do you do this? What is the best settings for the Amount Radius and threshold ? Are is there a better way
to
do this?

Thanks for the time
Ron

The unsharp mask is a good tool. It does require a certain level of skill and knowledge though.

What it does is it looks for the edges in your image and
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Don
May 28, 2004
If the picture is from a digital camera, I suggest starting points of amount=100%, radius = 2, Threshold 3. But each camera (and scene) is different, so as Charles says, play with these, and I agree the tendency at first is to oversharpen. Also, do it last, after you adjust contrast, saturation, etc.

Don

"Tabasco1" wrote in message
"Ron&Joyce" wrote in message
When a picture is a bit out of focus I have been told the best way to
help
it is by using the unsharp mask. How do you do this? What is the best settings for the Amount Radius and threshold ? Are is there a better way
to
do this?

Thanks for the time
Ron

The unsharp mask is a good tool. It does require a certain level of skill and knowledge though.

What it does is it looks for the edges in your image and "sharpens" them
by
increasing the contrast of the edges. Where as other sharpening methods do this for every point which can lead to "noise" in gradients and elsewhere.

To use the Unsharp Mask you need to know the following.

1.. First set your image size to 100% in the Preview and on the desktop
if
you are going to check the Preview check box.
2.. The Amount slider determines the strength of the effect.
3.. The radius is the how many pixels out from the edges it will affect.
Higher resolution images will generally like larger numbers like 3 to 4. Low-res images generally use between 1.5 to 2.
4.. Threshold determines how intense the edge difference must be before
it
applies sharpening. So the higher the number you select the less that gets sharpened.

How will you know the proper settings? By playing with the tool and
watching
what happens.

Tip. The professionals have learned to not get too aggressive in
sharpening
because you will create jaggies. If they have an image that is too soft
they
retake the image.

Charles
Torrance, California
http://www.tcpslashipdomains.com

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jaSPAMc
May 28, 2004
One additional ‘trick’ is to make it slightly ‘over-sharp’, accept, then ^z to undo. Then use the ‘fade’ option in the filter menu to make it blend a bit.

On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:47:01 -0700, "Don" found these unused words floating about:

If the picture is from a digital camera, I suggest starting points of amount=100%, radius = 2, Threshold 3. But each camera (and scene) is different, so as Charles says, play with these, and I agree the tendency at first is to oversharpen. Also, do it last, after you adjust contrast, saturation, etc.

Don

"Tabasco1" wrote in message
"Ron&Joyce" wrote in message
When a picture is a bit out of focus I have been told the best way to
help
it is by using the unsharp mask. How do you do this? What is the best settings for the Amount Radius and threshold ? Are is there a better way
to
do this?

Thanks for the time
Ron

The unsharp mask is a good tool. It does require a certain level of skill and knowledge though.

What it does is it looks for the edges in your image and "sharpens" them
by
increasing the contrast of the edges. Where as other sharpening methods do this for every point which can lead to "noise" in gradients and elsewhere.

To use the Unsharp Mask you need to know the following.

1.. First set your image size to 100% in the Preview and on the desktop
if
you are going to check the Preview check box.
2.. The Amount slider determines the strength of the effect.
3.. The radius is the how many pixels out from the edges it will affect.
Higher resolution images will generally like larger numbers like 3 to 4. Low-res images generally use between 1.5 to 2.
4.. Threshold determines how intense the edge difference must be before
it
applies sharpening. So the higher the number you select the less that gets sharpened.

How will you know the proper settings? By playing with the tool and
watching
what happens.

Tip. The professionals have learned to not get too aggressive in
sharpening
because you will create jaggies. If they have an image that is too soft
they
retake the image.

Charles
Torrance, California
http://www.tcpslashipdomains.com
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Vasja
May 30, 2004
You can achieve better results, if you "prepare" image before using the Unsharp mask filter.

Ctrl J (duplicates the layer);
Filter – Noise – Median (radius from 1 to 5);
Filter – Blur – Gaussian Blur (radius 1 to 3);
Filter – Sharpen – Unsharp Mask (Amount 500%, same radius as used before in Gaussian Blur, Threshold 0).
After that, lower the opacity of the layer to about 50%. Merge layers.

Shoult look better than using Unsharp mask directly.

Vasja

"Ron&Joyce" wrote in message
When a picture is a bit out of focus I have been told the best way to help it is by using the unsharp mask. How do you do this? What is the best settings for the Amount Radius and threshold ? Are is there a better way
to
do this?

Thanks for the time
Ron

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nomail
May 30, 2004
Vasja wrote:

You can achieve better results, if you "prepare" image before using the Unsharp mask filter.

Ctrl J (duplicates the layer);
Filter – Noise – Median (radius from 1 to 5);
Filter – Blur – Gaussian Blur (radius 1 to 3);
Filter – Sharpen – Unsharp Mask (Amount 500%, same radius as used before in Gaussian Blur, Threshold 0).
After that, lower the opacity of the layer to about 50%. Merge layers.

Shoult look better than using Unsharp mask directly.

In my experiment (all steps radius 2) it looks worse that not doing anything at all.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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Branko Vukelic
May 30, 2004
I agree. There’s another method that I’d learned in this very group.

CRTL+J (copy layer)
Apply High-Pass filter (radius not too large)
CTRL+SHIFT+U (Desaturate, new layer)
Set blending mode of new layer to "Overlay".

Not as sharp as Unsharp mask, IMO, but it is an alternative. In most cases, it yields good results.

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
Vasja wrote:

You can achieve better results, if you "prepare" image before using the Unsharp mask filter.

Ctrl J (duplicates the layer);
Filter – Noise – Median (radius from 1 to 5);
Filter – Blur – Gaussian Blur (radius 1 to 3);
Filter – Sharpen – Unsharp Mask (Amount 500%, same radius as used before in
Gaussian Blur, Threshold 0).
After that, lower the opacity of the layer to about 50%. Merge layers.

Shoult look better than using Unsharp mask directly.

In my experiment (all steps radius 2) it looks worse that not doing anything at all.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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Vasja
Jun 3, 2004
I have done some more testing and, yes, I was wrong. I have lived in mistake. Thank you, Branko and Johan for correcting me.

"Branko Vukelic" wrote in message
I agree. There’s another method that I’d learned in this very group.
CRTL+J (copy layer)
Apply High-Pass filter (radius not too large)
CTRL+SHIFT+U (Desaturate, new layer)
Set blending mode of new layer to "Overlay".

Not as sharp as Unsharp mask, IMO, but it is an alternative. In most
cases,
it yields good results.

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
Vasja wrote:

You can achieve better results, if you "prepare" image before using the Unsharp mask filter.

Ctrl J (duplicates the layer);
Filter – Noise – Median (radius from 1 to 5);
Filter – Blur – Gaussian Blur (radius 1 to 3);
Filter – Sharpen – Unsharp Mask (Amount 500%, same radius as used
before
in
Gaussian Blur, Threshold 0).
After that, lower the opacity of the layer to about 50%. Merge layers.

Shoult look better than using Unsharp mask directly.

In my experiment (all steps radius 2) it looks worse that not doing anything at all.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

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