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I use Golive along with Photoshop for web design, but I can’t seem to find any newsgroups relating to Golive. Does anybody know of a newsgroup? Thanks

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Feb 7, 2006
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I use Golive along with Photoshop for web design, but I can’t seem to find any newsgroups relating to Golive. Does anybody know of a newsgroup? Thanks

There is one on the adobe site
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Jason Warren
Feb 16, 2006
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I use Golive along with Photoshop for web design, but I can’t seem to find any newsgroups relating to Golive. Does anybody know of a newsgroup? Thanks

There is one on the adobe site
Slightly OT, but does anyone know what will happen to GoLive now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia? I think I can gues…

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Feb 16, 2006
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Slightly OT, but does anyone know what will happen to GoLive now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia? I think I can gues…

GoLive is so unlike Adobe’s other products that I suspect it was purchased, or maybe just had strange leadership. Let’s hope Adobe keeps DMX.
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Tacit
Feb 16, 2006
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GoLive is so unlike Adobe’s other products that I suspect it was purchased, or maybe just had strange leadership. Let’s hope Adobe keeps DMX.

You are correct.

Adobe GoLive was originally GoLive Cyberstudio; GoLive was the name of the company, and Cyberstudio was the name of the program. GoLive was, IIRC, a German company.

I have been using GoLive since the days when it was GoLive Cyberstudio; when Adobe took over GoLive, they provided upgrades for people who, like me, were original CyberStudio users.


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Stephen
Feb 17, 2006
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:35 GMT, Jason Warren in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop wrote:

Slightly OT, but does anyone know what will happen to GoLive now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia? I think I can gues…

No one outside of Adobe knows for sure, but my speculation is that it _might_ follow the example of Photoshop/Elements, and/or Acrobat Standard/Pro, etc.

GoLive, for those that need to do a quick HTML web page, <ie> those working in a clerical function, and a professional web application for developers, <Dreamweaver> which is far ahead of GoLive in terms of middleware scripting support, at this point in time.
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Tacit
Feb 18, 2006
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Stephen wrote:

GoLive, for those that need to do a quick HTML web page, <ie> those working in a clerical function, and a professional web application for developers, <Dreamweaver> which is far ahead of GoLive in terms of middleware scripting support, at this point in time.

I use, and teach, both GoLive and Dreamweaver. I started using GoLive when it was GoLive Cyberstudio, and started using Dreamweaver at version
2.

I hate hate hate HATE Dreamweaver.

Why? Glad you asked. 🙂

Beginning in Dreamweaver 3, Dreamweaver intorudced an off-by-one bug in the way it handles nested tables, which is still present today. Under some circumstances, if you have a table inside another table, Dreamweaver miscalculates the size of the outermost table’s width by 1. This can create quite a problem with modifying complex tables.

If you copy a form from one HTML page in Dreamweaver and paste it into another, the contents of the form are copied, but the contents of the FORM tag itself are not. Big pain in the ass.

If you copy-paste elements from one HTML page to another in Golive, Golive automatically updates the path to those elements. Dreamweaver does not.

If you copy an element which has an associated JavaScript to the clipboard in Golive (a rollover, for example), Golive copies the associated Javascript as well, and pastes it into the document when you hit Paste. Dreamweaver does not.

Golive’s site management tools are, in my experience, easier to use, though by a small margin.

Golive’s Javascript editor is, likewise, easier to use.

Dreamweaver’s built-in FTP is extremely fragile. It does not work with certain servers (IBM AIX servers, for example); it is so fragile that it will refuse to connect to FTP servers which do not provide file date stamps in the exact format it expects.

If ind the claim that Dreamweaer is more appropriate than Golive for "serious" Web design specious at best. What is your level of familiarity with each? On what specific features or functionality do you make that claim?


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Stephen
Feb 18, 2006
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:00:36 GMT, tacit in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop wrote:
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Stephen wrote:

GoLive, for those that need to do a quick HTML web page, <ie> those working in a clerical function, and a professional web application for developers, <Dreamweaver> which is far ahead of GoLive in terms of middleware scripting support, at this point in time.

I use, and teach, both GoLive and Dreamweaver. I started using GoLive when it was GoLive Cyberstudio, and started using Dreamweaver at version

You teach ? Good for you — That doesn’t necessarily impress. Especially when I know you’re more of a Print person, than a Web person. <sigh> Far different worlds my friend.

I hate hate hate HATE Dreamweaver.

Why? Glad you asked. 🙂

Good for you, always nice to see an impartial reviewer !

Golive’s site management tools are, in my experience, easier to use, though by a small margin.

Well to each his own. 😉

Golive’s Javascript editor is, likewise, easier to use.

Personal preference, I don’t have a problem with that.

Dreamweaver’s built-in FTP is extremely fragile. It does not work with certain servers (IBM AIX servers, for example); it is so fragile that it will refuse to connect to FTP servers which do not provide file date stamps in the exact format it expects.

I don’t know what you mean by this, works for me 100% — of course I never use ftp but sftp. 😉

If ind the claim that Dreamweaer is more appropriate than Golive for "serious" Web design specious at best. What is your level of familiarity with each? On what specific features or functionality do you make that claim?

I’ve used GLCS since it’s inception, switched to Dreamweaver when I started getting serious about _programming_ for the web. Before, I was primarily a C*/JAVA programmer. I don’t consider Web Development and Web Design to be mutually inclusive — far different skill sets. Dreamweaver is closer to what I consider an IDE than GoLive.

Simply put, for Graphic Designers used to print work and the Adobe interface, then GoLive is an appropriate application. In terms of programming/XML/support and site management, GoLive is far behind Dreamweaver IMO, and that of many others who do day to day web development, although many designers do like Dreamweaver as opposed to GoLive.

It is the better IDE in my view and that of others used to programming for the web — Assuming one isn’t looking for .NET code behind support. In that case then MSFT Visual Studio is the better option.

Anyway, there is no chance in hell that GoLive will be the professional web IDE for Adobe going forward, market share alone will dictate this.

I do hope that Adobe promotes Coldfusion energetically, and hopefully Lasso is EOL by Blueworld or whomever is the owner these days.

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