Hues

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What makes hues clash?

Human taste, a bit of physiology, and cosmic rays.

It’s not they clash, it’s that they don’t go together.

The problem is that they are in the wrong relationship to each other on the color wheel. Get one, study it, there will be a quiz.

Either that or else they are just plain ugly.

On 2/8/06 6:48 PM, in article
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What makes hues clash? How do you go about selecting hues for a scene?
Thanks,
Ron

Colors usually clash when they are opposite to each other on the color wheel. Hues can clash if they are too close. Anything found in nature–a leaf, a flower, a nut– is perfectly color coordinated.

-V

"Pat" wrote in message

It’s not they clash, it’s that they don’t go together.

By who’s standard? What culture?

Pod Press wrote:

On 2/8/06 6:48 PM, in article
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ranted:

What makes hues clash? How do you go about selecting hues for a scene?
Thanks,
Ron

Colors usually clash when they are opposite to each other on the color wheel. Hues can clash if they are too close. Anything found in nature–a leaf, a flower, a nut– is perfectly color coordinated.

-V

Colors opposite on the color wheel don’t clash. They are complimentary and usually a combination that works very well. Colors that are a third of the way around are also good colors to use.

You are right about colors to close though. Well, usually. Color theory is very complicated with very few absolutes.

Clyde

By your culture (or more precisely by the OP’s culture and tastes). If he thinks they clash, then for him they clash. He wanted to know why he thought they clashed. I’m no expert on cultural anthropology or color theory so I don’t know if "everyone" considers the same colors as going together or not. But for him, they clash and it’s because of the color’s relationship on the color wheel.

Clyde is of course right. Colors across the color wheel are complimentary and usually go together. Split complementaries on 1 color off from the complementary and they should work, too.

My guess is that things "clash" under 3 situation (maybe Clyde can add some insight). First, if you are using some weird fraction of colors away from each other, such as 1.75 colors away (so you are not using pure color differences). You might also get a clash if you use a tint of one color and a shade of another. The 3rd time might be if the color is in a place/shape/for that is not culturally expected. For example, a Scotch tartan might be good on a kilt, but not for a dress shirt. Now of course, someone who is Scotch might disagree, but that’s where it becomes cultural.

Just my thoughts. But the OP asks a great question!

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By your culture (or more precisely by the OP’s culture and tastes). If he thinks they clash, then for him they clash. He wanted to know why he thought they clashed. I’m no expert on cultural anthropology or color theory so I don’t know if "everyone" considers the same colors as going together or not.

There are definite, hard-wired visual perceptive phenonema that culture cannot change, for example perceived colors in various juxtapositions. I say ‘perceived’ because depending upon how the very same colors are arranged, the colors will be seen as different. One cannot be trained to overcome it.

And there are border-effects of colors which are almost alarming, so one can say they clash.

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What makes hues clash? How do you go about selecting hues for a scene?

A lot’s been written on this. Generally coordinated colors are selected based on their relation on the color wheel – for example colors that are opposite one another, or in the case of multiple colors, evenly spaced around the wheel. Other shapes, such as isosceles triangles, etc, seem to work as well.
http://www.worqx.com/color/color_wheel.htm

People are very good at accommodating inconsistent ideas, and projecting false analogies past the point of absurdity. Using the rule of complimentary colors, for example, green and blue should clash with one another. Although this rule is generally accepted, I have not heard of anyone complaining about the appearance of green trees against a blue sky, which directly violates these rules.
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

"Pod Press" wrote in message

On 2/8/06 6:48 PM, in article
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ranted:

What makes hues clash? How do you go about selecting hues for a scene?
Thanks,
Ron

Colors usually clash when they are opposite to each other on the color wheel. Hues can clash if they are too close. Anything found in nature–a leaf, a flower, a nut– is perfectly color coordinated.

-V

"Pod Press" wrote in message

Colors usually clash when they are opposite to each other on the color wheel. Hues can clash if they are too close. Anything found in nature–a leaf, a flower, a nut– is perfectly color coordinated.

http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/images/baboon.jpg

Like that? Gives me a headache.

"Mike Russell"

[…] Using the rule of complimentary colors, for example, green and blue should clash with one another. Although this rule is generally accepted, I have not heard of anyone complaining about the appearance of green trees against a blue sky, which directly violates these rules.

!!! ZING !!! 🙂

*sigh*, I haven’t seen a blue sky for weeks. White ground and grey skies clash as far as I’m concerned.

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*sigh*, I haven’t seen a blue sky for weeks. White ground and grey skies clash as far as I’m concerned.

Well, you’re not the only one suffering this winter. Yesterday, while looking out over the ocean, there was so much wind that I had to put on my coat.
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

"Pat" wrote in message

By your culture (or more precisely by the OP’s culture and tastes). If For example, a Scotch tartan might be good on a kilt, but not for a dress shirt. Now of course, someone who is Scotch might disagree, but that’s where it becomes cultural.

Hi.

Talking about Culture are we?

In that case you had better learn, before you get a "Glasgow Kiss" from some Uncultured Yob, that SCOTCH is a product which only ever comes in glass bottles.

The culture and people in Scotland are Scottish, or Scots.

Your misuse of the English language is pathetic.

Roy G

Having taught colour theory to design students, and working as a practising interior designer these are my thoughts.

Colour appreciation is largely fashion driven. One year pink and orange stripes (yuk) will be very au courant, the next they will be seen as clashing. So, on one level, whether or not certain hues go together is culturally determined.

The only hues I regard as clashing are those which are directly opposite each other on the colour wheel (get yourself one) and which have no added black or white and so are vibrant and pure. When put next to each other they induce a kinetic effect which can make you feel sick. Try it for yourself with squares of that gummed paper kids use. Try putting blue and yellow next to each other, and red and green. The dividing line will begin to vibrate.

The greater the proportion of white, or black, a hue has the more ‘compatible’ it will be with other colours near or opposite on the colour wheel.

In addition to hue you need to consider the tonal value of a colour when putting it tgether with another. Often a pure hue when placed next to another unrelated colour, with a different tonal value, will jar. Colours go together better if their tonal value is similar. To assess the tonal value of two colours photocopy them in B/W. The relative greyness will demonstrate their tonal differences.

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The greater the proportion of white, or black, a hue has the more ‘compatible’ it will be with other colours near or opposite on the colour wheel.

In addition to hue you need to consider the tonal value of a colour when putting it tgether with another. […]

True or False: Dayglow colors are brighter than white?

Mike Russell wrote:

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What makes hues clash? How do you go about selecting hues for a scene?

A lot’s been written on this. Generally coordinated colors are selected based on their relation on the color wheel – for example colors that are opposite one another, or in the case of multiple colors, evenly spaced around the wheel. Other shapes, such as isosceles triangles, etc, seem to work as well.
http://www.worqx.com/color/color_wheel.htm

People are very good at accommodating inconsistent ideas, and projecting false analogies past the point of absurdity. Using the rule of complimentary colors, for example, green and blue should clash with one another. Although this rule is generally accepted, I have not heard of anyone complaining about the appearance of green trees against a blue sky, which directly violates these rules.

pantone.com also has a similar chart. They also have a lot of good learning on color. Pantone is about as good a source as you can find for color knowledge. Of course, you may need to pay their consultants big bucks to get the perfect colors for your product 2 seasons away.

Clyde

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Having taught colour theory to design students, and working as a practising interior designer these are my thoughts.

Colour appreciation is largely fashion driven. One year pink and orange stripes (yuk) will be very au courant, the next they will be seen as clashing. So, on one level, whether or not certain hues go together is culturally determined.

The only hues I regard as clashing are those which are directly opposite each other on the colour wheel (get yourself one) and which have no added black or white and so are vibrant and pure. When put next to each other they induce a kinetic effect which can make you feel sick. Try it for yourself with squares of that gummed paper kids use. Try putting blue and yellow next to each other, and red and green. The dividing line will begin to vibrate.

The greater the proportion of white, or black, a hue has the more ‘compatible’ it will be with other colours near or opposite on the colour wheel.

In addition to hue you need to consider the tonal value of a colour when putting it tgether with another. Often a pure hue when placed next to another unrelated colour, with a different tonal value, will jar. Colours go together better if their tonal value is similar. To assess the tonal value of two colours photocopy them in B/W. The relative greyness will demonstrate their tonal differences.

To each her own – to some degree. Pantone is a company that make big bucks picking those colors for fashion. They seem to think that colors across the wheel from each other (complimentary) are good.

Your general point about the culture changing its color tastes is a good one. That certainly keeps things more complicated.

Clyde

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The greater the proportion of white, or black, a hue has the more ‘compatible’ it will be with other colours near or opposite on the colour wheel.

In addition to hue you need to consider the tonal value of a colour when putting it tgether with another. […]

True or False: Dayglow colors are brighter than white?

It depends on how you define "white". 😉

Clyde