it almost looks like cordory
Do you mean corduroy?
When you say you are scanning "from an ancient photo album" do you mean an album of actual photos (ie, light sensitive emulsion on paper) or do you mean a book with images printed in it, kind of like a coffee table book.
If the latter, what you see may be caused by the screening of the printing process
sorry yes i did mean corduroy…and its actual photos although they are from the 50’s and 60’s…which is why they need repair. Thanks for the quick reply.
Bill
What HP scanner are you using? I’ve used a few of them, most recently a 5500c, and I can tell you they are lousy scanners.
Are the pictures in the photo album covered with a clear plastic? Light refraction would explain the pattern you’re seeing.
You need to remove the pictures from the photo album, or at least remove the plastic. When the scanner light moves across the image, if there’s plastic "protecting" the image, those minute variations in height between the backing and the top of the picture can cause artifacts. In addition, the material that the plastic is made from affects how light refracts.
If you do NOT have plastic over the pictures, sorry – just trying to help.
Peace,
Tony
The problem may also be that awful photo finish that was popular back then…
If the lines look like faux-linen, it’s on the original print–you can tell this–just look at the print. You may be able to hide part of this pattern by rotating the print on the scanner bed 90-degrees, before you scan.
If the lines are regular, perhaps there is an anti-Newton ring sheet on the scanner, or the scanner glass is etched.
well its not the plastic but thanks its possible that it could be the paper but more suspect is the scanner here is a link to a clip of one of the pictures <
http://home.comcast.net/~knetter420/index.html>
Thanks again much appreciated
Bill
Looks exactly like what I would expect from a plastic cover. But you’re saying that there is no plastic.
Is that the result of the image at 100% mag in Photoshop?
It doesn’t look like the stripes are 100% vertical, which would seem to rule-out the scanner glass. It doesn’t rule-out a cover sheet on the scanner, but you say there’s no plastic anywhere.
I presume the example is enlarged about 3-4X (since it was scanned at 300). This still looks like stripes on the paper stock.
Without knowing more than this, all I can still suggest is rotating the paper 90-degrees.
It’s the scanner.
I had a cheap piece of cr*p scanner that used to produce just such an effect.
You can verify this by scanning the same photo 2 ways, 90 degrees from each other and you will notice the lines do not rotate with the photo.
Hmmm… interesting John. I don’t doubt you one iota, but it sure would be interesting if Bill confirmed it.
I’ve never used HP Scanners, only Microtek and Epson. Good catch, if that’s the deal.
If it were bands from a broken scanner stepper motor, they’d run in the other direction.
Depends on the orientation of the image on the scanbed Harv. We don’t know what orientation it was in when posted it.
Betcha it’s right way ’round. He’d have to rotate it in the scanner software or PS, and he hasn’t gotten past the point of seeing stripes.
Ehhhh, could be right. We don’t know.
But I agree, that if the image was scanned from "head to toe" instead of from "hand to hand", then you’re right, can’t be stepper motor. However, it still COULD be an electric fluctuation causing CCD anamolies. <shrug>.
Or absolutely horrible glass on the scanner–I hope that’s not the case.
In my case, the backlight (for scanning film) is incredibly uneven–it would make very stripey pictures. But the scanner software knows enough to compensate for the stripes. I guess that’s what you get when you pay $199 for a high-resolution film scanner.
It’s all conjecture, until we hear from the star witness again.
"…images from an ancient photo album…and its actual photos although they are from the 50’s and 60’s…"
Oh, man, I feel about 174 years old right now.
that’s the same clip as before.
did you scan the same photo 2 ways and see that the lines did not appear in the same orientation relative to the photo?
and out of curiousity, was the clip you posted rotated after scanning?
ya sorry about the repetitive thing there was still recovering from the concert last night. No i didn’t try scanning it again but i will try that and yes the photo was rotated after scanning.
OK then, if you have not tried scanning the same image 2 ways, what lead you to conclude that the scanner was at fault?
Hesh.
(I got drunk at a Comedy Club 😉 )
Lucky you. I can’t type after I drink.
Neither can Carl. I should have textlogged the AIM thing.
Okay phos. You’re talking nonsense now. Lay down. There there. Keep a glass of water by your bed. Nigh nigh.
Ummm…I was just joking with the "Hesh" thing.
I’ve been dry for about 2 months.
Funny thing is, I don’t feel any better!
😉
<shrug> I wasn’t judging. I was trying to be funny. Guess I need to work on that.
the yesh was my impressionation of Dr. watts after a couple sherrys i dunno…but back to the topic i am going to scan the page again today and find out whether the lines rotate with the image or not… what lead me to believe it was the scanner was the fact that it sucks it was like 99 bucks 4 years ago… is there anyway to fix it with photoshop maybe something along the lines of an action cause i have a bunch of images to repair and dont want to spend a day trying to fix just those lines, also if i figure out it was the scanner where would you guys take the images to have them scanned? Thanks again this
Bill
oh the image was rotated 90 degrees after scanning
I haven’t used it, but there is a feature called "descreen" in the HP scanner software which removes grid-like artifacts which can occur in scanned images.
I also have an HP 5470c scanner, and I think both the hardware and software are pretty decent. Bert
is there anyway to fix it with photoshop maybe something along the lines of an action
Nope.
there is a feature called "descreen"
It’s a blur type filter, albeit mild. It will help reduce moiré patterns, but nothing like what he’s seeing.
Comeon,
Try posting this at Retrouch Pro <
http://www.retouchpro.com/>. They have contests for restorations and such. They may be able to help.
You need a new scanner bruh.
Peace,
Tony
Well, you could make a scan of nothin’ at the same resolution, invert it or shift it over by a halfa-line, and make that a layer of some kind, then… oh, forget it, just get a new scanner.
oh, forget it, just get a new scanner.
Heh. Yeah, GIGO.
I dunno…I don’t see any "corduroy" patterns with my HP scanner, guys. I know how you all hate HP scanners, but what he’s describing doesn’t sound like just a poor scanner to me.
Bert
Not a crummy scanner, a broken scanner. Stripes across the width of the image often mean the stepper motor or belt is working in fits and starts, instead of running smoothly and making an even-exposure. For instance, I have one scanner (not HP or Epson) that will cause problems if it isn’t on a flat, even surface–touch it in the middle of the bottom, and it’ll stop moving.
<nodding> He needs a new scanner.
