Which version of book – Opinions Please

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Feb 28, 2004
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I am currently using PS 7 and might, and I say might, move to CS. Anyhow, am looking at a couple of books for photographers and Photoshop. Found these 2 and were wondering what people thought about them? Which was better?:

Photoshop 7: Photographers’ Guide

PHOTOSHOP CS FOR DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHERS

Also, was wondering if it matters if the book is for 7 or CS? Thanks and hope to hear from a lot of you. There are so many crappy books out there and I try to be selective. Thanks again.

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Chris_Cox
Feb 28, 2004
I greatly prefer Martin Evening’s book "Photoshop CS for Photographers".

7 and CS are similar, but the books covering CS will cover the newer features (Camera RAW, 16 bit layers, Shadow & Highlight, etc.) and the books covering PS 7 will not….
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cadman_meg
Feb 29, 2004
What, only one person can help with this? Sometimes this group is really not helpful whatsoever. Come on people, lend me an opinion. But only if you know what you are talking about. Would appreciate it. Thanks. wrote in message
I am currently using PS 7 and might, and I say might, move to CS. Anyhow, am looking at a couple of books for photographers and Photoshop. Found
these
2 and were wondering what people thought about them? Which was better?:
Photoshop 7: Photographers’ Guide

PHOTOSHOP CS FOR DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHERS

Also, was wondering if it matters if the book is for 7 or CS? Thanks and hope to hear from a lot of you. There are so many crappy books out there
and
I try to be selective. Thanks again.

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Robert_Levine
Feb 29, 2004
Cadman,

I’ve removed the auotquote from your post. Please turn that feature off in your newsreader. It clutters things up here. Feel free to quote any portion of a topic that can help with your points.

One other thing, saying something like "only if you know what you are talking about" will do nothing to get you any information. EVERYONE here is a volunteer. A statement like at will turn off many people, even the ones who do know what they’re talking about.

Bob
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dave_milbut
Feb 29, 2004
Come on people, lend me an opinion. But only if you know what you are talking about.

That certainly limits it. I’m sure that it’s not that no one WANTS to help you, it’s that you were already getting people who know what they’re talking about.
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pope
Feb 29, 2004
Count me out…I have no idea what I’m talking about…besides, that is so uncreative. Rule six: Never let the truth spoil a good story.
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r_harvey
Feb 29, 2004
But only if you know what you are talking about.

Nice.

I know what I’m talking about.

Unfortunately, I’m not talking about this.
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cadman_meg
Feb 29, 2004
This doesn’t just pertain to this post. I have posted many of times and only get one answer that is not necessarily right. Didn’t mean to offend anyone, just was in a rush for the info. I guess I compare message boards and some you get more and better responses that others. If I know the answer and have gotten help from a board before, I definitely try to give someone a hand. Oh well. If someone does want to try, I would appreciate it. Again, apologize if I came off the wrong way, just gets frustrating sometimes.
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Robert_Levine
Feb 29, 2004
cadman,

Once again, please turn off the autoquote on your newsreader.

Bob
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Alpha_Papa
Feb 29, 2004
Amazon < http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0817453733/qid =1078098189/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-1897547-2057668?v=glance&a mp;s=books>

LOL! It’s Australia here and there’s a time difference ok?

Seriously Meg I’ve got this one ISBN: 0817453733 and it’s a fine read.

Steer away from the "How to Do Everything with" series right now as the 1st editions of PSCS,AICS and HTML are full of typos and I hold little faith in the rest.

All the best,
Adam.
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Gary_Hummell
Mar 1, 2004
I would agree with Chris Cox on Martin Evening’s books. My first was PS 6.0. He is obviously knowledgable, writes clearly and covers a large amount of material in an organized manner. I also like the Haynes & Crumpler books. Regrettably, it remains to be seen if I actually know what I am talking about. At age 50+, I am hoping for a breakthrough.

Gary
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Ken_Storch_(aka_photon)
Mar 1, 2004
Things tend to be a bit slow here on weekends as well.

I’ve used the Photoshop Artistry series in classes I’ve taught. I don’t know if there is a CS version out.

Many PS features are the same over multiple versions, so PS7 books will likely cover 85% or more of CS as well.
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Bernd_Schneitler
Mar 1, 2004
I had Scott Kelby’s book of "PS 7 for digital Photographers" and liked it. I like his style (he is always very relaxed and funny). When I read this book I was completely new to PS. His book is a step-by-step guide. It gave me a bunch of good ideas.

Last time I was at B&H I looked through his "PS CS for digital Photographers" and it looks to me like it is the same book with the same topics just modified for CS. That was at least my impression when I quickly looked through it.

Thanks

Bernd
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Rick_Eckert
Mar 1, 2004
This topic comes up on a regular basis. Generally, it boils down to a question of what type of information you’re looking for. As Chris said, if you want a book that covers new features, by all means limit yourself to Photoshop CS books. Otherwise, older versions will probably suit you just fine. If you want tutorials as well as information, I doubt if you can beat PS Artistry (CS version is available). Martin Evening’s book is excellent, as are Real World PS CS (just out), Scott Kelby’s books, PS CS Studio Techniques (also just out), and on and on. Most of the books mentioned are not inexpensive, however, so a used copy of an older version will probably save you some money.
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David_Dahlstrom
Mar 1, 2004
I just picked-up Scott Kelby’s PS CS for Digital Photographers. This is basically a book of how-to’s and tips that is aimed at folks who already have some PS experience. I can easily recommend the book, but not as a first or only book on Photoshop. It is not very "meaty", but left me saying, "gee, that’s pretty cool" in a number of places. It also has a very convenient format that makes it easy to locate a tip/technique quickly and easily.

If you want to actually learn Photoshop, get a different book. Photoshop Artistry (Haynes & Crumpler) is quite deep and covers a lot of ground. I’ve heard the CS version of this book is a bit light in covering the newest features, but it’s still a great book for studying the features which make up the heart of the product. Right now I’m looking for Realworld Photoshop CS (which has high recommendations), but my local Barnes & Noble doesn’t have it yet (at least not as of Wednesday last week). That one should be good. And of course there is Adobe’s own Classroom in a Book, which generally gets good reviews if you need a more fundamental tutorial.

Dave

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